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Gas Cap Mod

I did this on my last two LTs and just finished on my third.

This is one of the best MODs I have ever done and it is easy and simple.

The question is that all the documentation talk about removing some of the plastic and I have not had to do this even once.

I dremel out about 75% of the metal off the cylinder and put the pieces back together and it works like a champ.

Am I missing something here?

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http://www.bmwlt.com/files/albums/us...ap%20Mod~0.pdf

Here is the PDF

I got to step 10, reassembled and was good to go.

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I wasn't aware of this mod. Has there been an issue with the key remaining in the gas cap, or is it just a preference thing?

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I wasn't aware of this mod. Has there been an issue with the key remaining in the gas cap, or is it just a preference thing?
The modification allows you to remove the cap without using the key, as long as you leave it unlocked. It still allows you to lock it anytime you want to. Much better for most of the time, in fact, I probably only locked mine a couple times in 100,000 miles.

I did 25-30 of these at one of the CCR's, and I always removed material from both parts so that neither was left with a small section, which could possibly be broken off. You CAN remove 75% from either the plastic OR the aluminum, but my preference was to remove roughly equal amounts from both, leaving a substantial section on each.

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The modification allows you to remove the cap without using the key, as long as you leave it unlocked. It still allows you to lock it anytime you want to. Much better for most of the time, in fact, I probably only locked mine a couple times in 100,000 miles.

I did 25-30 of these at one of the CCR's, and I always removed material from both parts so that neither was left with a small section, which could possibly be broken off. You CAN remove 75% from either the plastic OR the aluminum, but my preference was to remove roughly equal amounts from both, leaving a substantial section on each.
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Why go to all the trouble to take out the cylinder?

Put the key in, put it in the locked position, drill a small hole in the inner and outer plastic. insert a small screw to hold the two, take the key out... Bamm.. less than 2 min....



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here's a stupid question, this is what I do with no problems,remove the gas cap, lock it,and then reinstall it as usual, then you can open/close as you wish and still be able lock it as you wish

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after I posted this I realized its a statement not a ???? d'oh..

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I may be a bit slow on this one, but I don't understand the reason for the mod. My '05 fuel cap has 2 modes - locked then remove the key, unlocked and remove the key and use it in that mode, unlocked all the time. I never lock it but have locked it to make sure it works. It appears to have never been modified so I assume that's the standard configuration. Makes sense to me.

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I may be a bit slow on this one, but I don't understand the reason for the mod. My '05 fuel cap has 2 modes - locked then remove the key, unlocked and remove the key and use it in that mode, unlocked all the time. I never lock it but have locked it to make sure it works. It appears to have never been modified so I assume that's the standard configuration. Makes sense to me.
Ditto for me - can be "locked open" on my ride.

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I may be a bit slow on this one, but I don't understand the reason for the mod. My '05 fuel cap has 2 modes - locked then remove the key, unlocked and remove the key and use it in that mode, unlocked all the time. I never lock it but have locked it to make sure it works. It appears to have never been modified so I assume that's the standard configuration. Makes sense to me.
Then yours has been modified already by the PO. They come from the factory where when unlocked you cannot remove the key. You can only remove it when it is locked. That is why we mod everyone we find!!!

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I may be a bit slow on this one, but I don't understand the reason for the mod. My '05 fuel cap has 2 modes - locked then remove the key, unlocked and remove the key and use it in that mode, unlocked all the time. I never lock it but have locked it to make sure it works. It appears to have never been modified so I assume that's the standard configuration. Makes sense to me.
In the standard factory mode (unless BMW changed it on later models) When locked, the cap just spins and you cannot remove it, nor can you tighten it properly. When unlocked, you can remove it and replace it, but the key has to be in it. Thus the mod, to allow it to be left unlocked, with the key out, and be able to properly tighten it and remove it. It can still be locked if you are leaving the bike in a place where you feel it is necessary. Did BMW change this on later models? I know that up to 2001 the mod was necessary if you wanted it unlocked, with the key out, and still able to remove it without the key, and tighten it properly when put back on.

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... Did BMW change this on later models? I know that up to 2001 the mod was necessary if you wanted it unlocked, with the key out, and still able to remove it without the key, and tighten it properly when put back on.
My '09 LT operates this way - the same as the '05 did. That is, the mod is required in order to gain the convenience of not having to unlock the gas cap. John Z. "fixed" my '05's gas cap; I need to bring the '09 around to get the same thing done.

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Then it must be possible to modify the fuel cap without any outward evidence, mine looks bog standard and the PO went through everything on the bike with me but never mentioned any mod to the cap. My Riderls Manual shows a photo of the cap removed with the key still in it on Page 42. Mine's an '05, lock it and the top spins free, unlock it and remove the key and it works like you would expect, I never lock it. Maybe the dealers do the mod, not likely.

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I can add that my '00, my first '09 and my second '09 all operated the same way.

Also when you look at the design of the mechanism you can see that the "locking pin" retracts when in the locked position and thus you get no "traction" when you try to put the cap on.

Also on all three of mine when in the unlocked position, the "locking pin" is out, the key will not come out, this the only way to put the cap back on effectively is to keep the key in the lock.

The ONLY problem with the MOD is that I often when in a rush, especially when on a IBA quest, will forget to turn off the bike. Then when I refill, the fuel gauge takes some time to slowly hit full. This is just but a minor annoyance. Not sure why it does that, but it does.

PS once I have done this MOD, I have never put the key back in the fuel cap.

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I just did the mod on my 05..................

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is the gas cap a standard size? In other words, could you just stop at AutoZone and get a non-locking cap for $5, use that, and have the other as a spare if you're ever in South America or wherever people screw with your gas tank?

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is the gas cap a standard size? In other words, could you just stop at AutoZone and get a non-locking cap for $5, use that, and have the other as a spare if you're ever in South America or wherever people screw with your gas tank?

Why not just do the mod and you would have one that locks when you want it and is unlocked when you want it?

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Then it must be possible to modify the fuel cap without any outward evidence, mine looks bog standard and the PO went through everything on the bike with me but never mentioned any mod to the cap. My Riderls Manual shows a photo of the cap removed with the key still in it on Page 42. Mine's an '05, lock it and the top spins free, unlock it and remove the key and it works like you would expect, I never lock it. Maybe the dealers do the mod, not likely.
Evidently a previous owner did the mod. When it is done, there is no outward apperance change. You have to disassemble it to see the changes. If you can unlock it then remove the key, it has been modified.

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Why not just do the mod and you would have one that locks when you want it and is unlocked when you want it?

with my luck lately, it would fail when I am 500 miles from home, and I wouldn't be able to open it for gas to get home.

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with my luck lately, it would fail when I am 500 miles from home, and I wouldn't be able to open it for gas to get home.
There is really nothing in there to fail, or if it did it would not matter if it had been modified or not. The modification does not make the unit more likely to "fail", only increases the usefulness of it.

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There is really nothing in there to fail, or if it did it would not matter if it had been modified or not. The modification does not make the unit more likely to "fail", only increases the usefulness of it.
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Never knew this mod existed! Will definitely do the change as the way it is now is a royal pain! Special thanks to the person who did the pics. No way could I do this without the pics!

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I'm going to do this mod. Thanks for the input!

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I've done a dozen or so I have always done them the same as Dave.
Steve is the man at this. He did mine in just a few minutes while talking to me and I think he would occasionally look down at the cap he was working on. I bet he could have done it blindfolded.
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Steve is the man at this. He did mine in just a few minutes while talking to me and I think he would occasionally look down at the cap he was working on. I bet he could have done it blindfolded.
It truly is one nice mod.
Thanks Bones, I think I did 5 or 6 on that day in Grif's Garage. All together it took about an hour & a half to do all of them. Very easy to do & will worth the little time it takes to do.

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Just completed this mod.
It is definitely worth the time and minimal effort involved.

Nice benefit of not having to screw around with the key fob while opening your tank.
Best part is it works both ways now.
Unlocked but being able to completely tighten the cap or lockable for security.

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One of the golden oldies, this mod. Done that too. Only thing to be aware is the flying spring. Do not ask how do I know

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In the standard factory mode (unless BMW changed it on later models) When locked, the cap just spins and you cannot remove it, nor can you tighten it properly.
That is the way it works on my 2005


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