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Trike conversion and weak clutch issues

Lately there has been some forum discussion of clutch issues, i.e. weak, worn or contaminated assemblies and the ensuing clutch related repairs. I've decided, (95% sure anyway), to trike my '06 KLT soon with a Hannigan conversion. My question is if anyone, that has a LT trike conversion, had a clutch problem from wear due to the additional weight? The final drive seems to be first on the list as the weakest link on a great motorcycle, but since I'll be eliminating that possible issue, the second weakest may be the clutch. Any thoughts?

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Re: Trike conversion and weak clutch issues

Pardon the tangent, but I looked up the conversion...what happens to the side cases? Is there any storage other than the topcase after conversion?

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The side cases come off, but the trike has a rather large trunk of it's own.
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Rob: Great talking today about the conversion with you today. I am also curious to know any side benefits or minus on the conversion -- from routine maintenance to unforeseen issues.

Talk soon!

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Re: Trike conversion and weak clutch issues

No worries on the clutch if you don't slip it at a higher RPM than 1500 to get her rolling. The weight of a trike is less than my loaded LT pulling a 350 lb Bushtec. That method has given me hope on my clutch.

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No worries on the clutch if you don't slip it at a higher RPM than 1500 to get her rolling. The weight of a trike is less than my loaded LT pulling a 350 lb Bushtec. That method has given me hope on my clutch.
I wonder if altitude plays a part in this. I swear I've _tried_ to keep it around 1000 rpm when starting out, but it really works best at 1800-2000 or so...less ultimate slippage.

Course, It's normally aspirated and lacks 6000 feet of altitude. (3% per 1000 feet = 3*6 = 18%)

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I wonder if altitude plays a part in this. I swear I've _tried_ to keep it around 1000 rpm when starting out, but it really works best at 1800-2000 or so...less ultimate slippage.

Course, It's normally aspirated and lacks 6000 feet of altitude. (3% per 1000 feet = 3*6 = 18%)
I don't think you will have a problem but I did the same thing across CO maybe a little higher than 1500. As long as you stay away from 2000+ and for any length of time.

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I live in Las Vegas. I've had a Hannigan conversion since 2007, on a 2000 LT. I have had absolutely no problem with clutch, actually have had no problem with anything. Trikes wear out the front tires quickly, though, but that is easy to remedy. You will love the trike, but it is harder to steer than a two wheeler.

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I live in Las Vegas. I've had a Hannigan conversion since 2007, on a 2000 LT. I have had absolutely no problem with clutch, actually have had no problem with anything. Trikes wear out the front tires quickly, though, but that is easy to remedy. You will love the trike, but it is harder to steer than a two wheeler.
Hannigan conversion is scheduled for end of May with a completion date of + or - 06 June. You mentioned increased steering effort, is that with the Steer Light option installed? I'm anxiously awaiting for the call to bring her in for the refit. Already have a trip planned for mid-June, hopefully it'll be done by then.........Rob

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No, the added steering energy is required because it is a trike, and cannot lean into the corners. You must have the steer lite option installed, or it will be worse!!!! A friend of mine with a HD did not install the rake, and on the LV Strip he attempted a turn, did not turn, and ran straight into the side of a car. His HD now has a rake (steer lite)! ! (After repairs!).

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Re: Trike conversion and weak clutch issues

I would think the steer lite option would be an absolute must! I have a Hannigan 2+2 sidecar and if I was going to use it all the time I would absolutely make the change. Can't give up the thrill of 2wheels though.

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I would think the steer lite option would be an absolute must! I have a Hannigan 2+2 sidecar and if I was going to use it all the time I would absolutely make the change. Can't give up the thrill of 2wheels though.

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Loren,

just how difficult is it to steer your rig--without the "steer light " ?
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Re: Trike conversion and weak clutch issues

It is difficult enough that I MUCH prefer riding without it. I redid the setup process and it is much better than it was when I bought it. The LT is just way too fun when there are only 2 wheels.

Where you feel it the most is obviously in town. On the highway it is easy as I have the electrically adjustable camber. It tracks straight as an arrow no matter the crown in the road.

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