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Question Adding CB and GPS to K1200LT w/Voice II

Hey guys,
I'm not getting much response to some comm-related questions I posted over on the CB/radio/comm forum, so I'd like to direct your attention to it from here, in the hope of getting more answers. Hope this is OK, because I do see other comm threads in the LT forum here.

I'm trying to sort out adding a CB and GPS to an '09 LT with a factory GPS mount and Voice II intercom. A dealer is trying to help with this but I gather they don't have much experience integrating all these things; not a criticism, just the way it is, given the low demand for some of these things. (Ari recently noted the same thing in a similar thread)

Please take a look and see if you can answer some questions:
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Re: Adding CB and GPS to K1200LT w/Voice II

Hard to believe a dealer can't sort that out for you. Might be worth asking other dealers.

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Re: Adding CB and GPS to K1200LT w/Voice II

We have some dealers represented on this site. I was kind of hoping they would jump in and share their expertise in this area.

I have spoken with a couple of others, including a large multi-location New England-based dealer. Some help, but not able to sort it out. Seems like there ought to be a source at BMW HQ to answer these questions.

RKA Luggage has a solution, but everything would be mouned on a tank bag and I couldn't use the Voice 2 intercom; that means I'd lose the factory AM/FM radio, which I do use daily.

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Re: Adding CB and GPS to K1200LT w/Voice II

Howard,
you can easily mount a Garmin 660 on your factory mount.

Now how to hook it up to your Voice II is a question the J&M specialists should be able to answer. J&M guy is a member of this forum so look him up!

The sad fact is that very few dealers have relly deep down information on these third-party devices like Voice Intercom ( from J&M), BMW Nav IV GPS units ( from Garmin), radios ( from Becker) etc.
If you have a problem their recipe usually is to change the unit to a new one.

If you have a connection issue, you most likely will not get an answer unless the tech for some reason has previous experience on a similar issue. By the factory (or BMW NA in your case) the dealers have not been trained to handle this kind of questions.

So, first try to contact J&M. Check if the Voice unit has an input for the Garmin audio. If yes, then your GPS issue is solved.
Then ask about the CB. I Understand J&M has their own CB unit that fts to Voice II.

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Re: Adding CB and GPS to K1200LT w/Voice II

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I'm trying to sort out adding a CB and GPS to an '09 LT with a factory GPS mount and Voice II intercom. A dealer is trying to help with this but I gather they don't have much experience integrating all these things; not a criticism, just the way it is, given the low demand for some of these things. (Ari recently noted the same thing in a similar thread)

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Howard,

The following may add to your dilemma rather than solving anything but let me toss this out.
BMW "did" make available an LT specific CB add on accessory in several versions. One was for the '04 ('05 in the USA) and later K1200LT's with the Voice II. It was a branded version of a J&M product. The part number for the CB (and associated wiring harness and mount bracket "was" 71600447937. Part number for the associated antenna "was" 65212337380. These are from a two year old accessory catalog.

A non-current version of ETK is not listing the CB. My recollection is that the CB part was a bit under $500 and the antenna about $215 or so. The unit mounted on the left brake reservoir area and had specific connectors for the LT wiring harness. Installation was several hours labor.

I'm not a parts guy and fellows that are whizzes with BMW's parts stuff might get your more, but, Anyway, there used to be stuff to do the CB part of your query. Those part numbers may give a dealer a way to find old stock in a warehouse or something.

As for the GPS....as has been discussed elsewhere here, the mount and wiring harness that came on your bike were specifically for the Navigator III Adapting those bits to newer generation GPSs is sometimes possible, with some creative effort that others here have accomplished.

I've seen post '05 LT's with an integrated Voice II, Nav III, BMW CB and it all worked. That was "then".

Good luck!

JD

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Howard,

The following may add to your dilemma rather than solving anything but let me toss this out.
BMW "did" make available an LT specific CB add on accessory in several versions. One was for the '04 ('05 in the USA) and later K1200LT's with the Voice II. It was a branded version of a J&M product. The part number for the CB (and associated wiring harness and mount bracket "was" 71600447937. Part number for the associated antenna "was" 65212337380. These are from a two year old accessory catalog.

A non-current version of ETK is not listing the CB. My recollection is that the CB part was a bit under $500 and the antenna about $215 or so. The unit mounted on the left brake reservoir area and had specific connectors for the LT wiring harness. Installation was several hours labor.

I'm not a parts guy and fellows that are whizzes with BMW's parts stuff might get your more, but, Anyway, there used to be stuff to do the CB part of your query. Those part numbers may give a dealer a way to find old stock in a warehouse or something.

As for the GPS....as has been discussed elsewhere here, the mount and wiring harness that came on your bike were specifically for the Navigator III Adapting those bits to newer generation GPSs is sometimes possible, with some creative effort that others here have accomplished.

I've seen post '05 LT's with an integrated Voice II, Nav III, BMW CB and it all worked. That was "then".

Good luck!

JD
Thanks, Jeff. This is all good info.

It's adapting the GPS Nav III wiring harness to a Nav IV or Zumo 660 that I'm still striking out on. One guy here - billsmith - has done this but I can't raise him. He hasn't been on this site to answer some questions I asked him. He has a Nav IV/Zumo 660 on his '09 LT and I'd like to know how his dealer did it.

At this point I'm considering dropping all this and going with the total in-the-tankbag solution proposed by RKA. That means abandoning the factory intercom, factory GPS mount, and factory intercom ports - something that attracted me to this bike from the outset. We'll see...

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Re: Adding CB and GPS to K1200LT w/Voice II

Howard, I forgot to mention that out of the old Nav III cradle and wiring practically nothing is usable for Zumo 660.
I did the swap and the only thing I used was the original factory GPS mount into which the Zumo mount fits nicely (with the help of some extension washers or pieces of plastic tube as someone mentioned already).

Zumo comes with it's own harness and that needs to be hooked up to your bike's original GPS power output, and to your intercom inputs. Not complicated (even doable by a dealer...;-) if you don't want to tackle it yourself.

IMHO it is kinda pity to leave all the stuff you already have on the bike and go for a tankbag solution. But each to his own...
Good luck!

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Howard, I forgot to mention that out of the old Nav III cradle and wiring practically nothing is usable for Zumo 660.
I did the swap and the only thing I used was the original factory GPS mount into which the Zumo mount fits nicely (with the help of some extension washers or pieces of plastic tube as someone mentioned already).

Zumo comes with it's own harness and that needs to be hooked up to your bike's original GPS power output, and to your intercom inputs. Not complicated (even doable by a dealer...;-) if you don't want to tackle it yourself.

IMHO it is kinda pity to leave all the stuff you already have on the bike and go for a tankbag solution. But each to his own...
Good luck!

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Understood. We know the factory-installed Nav III wiring is useless for the Nav IV or Zumo 660/665 units. The only thing we will end up using from the factory GPS prep kit is the physical mount itself. We'll have to use the Garmin wiring harness.

We'll see how this goes. Thanks, Ari.

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