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Chasing young horns at The Gap. The LT's capabilities 2 up are considerable. Overall poundage is almost twice the weight of any bike we are following in this vid. The ditch cleaner kept our speeds moderate until we got in front of them and onto a cleaner surface.


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very cool, thanks for sharing!

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VERY nice riding, man. Can't quite keep up to the serious sport bikes but can blow away any pure touring bike on the market. I've riden that beatiful road many times and love it. This year did it with my wife on her own Ninja 250 and she loved it too. Great video. Thanks.

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I assume this is you, only 2 up LT on the 3rd I could see...



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Been there and it was great fun. Nice riding!

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[QUOTE=palarimer]I assume this is you, only 2 up LT on the 3rd I could see...
Yes. We caught slow traffic in front of Killboy so I took the time to stretch my 59 yr ole legs. The following day I turned 60--didn't notice a big difference next time you get up that way chk out The Apple Cover Inn in Maggie Valley. We get a rm for $25-30 night. Small but clean and close to food. 60 miles to The gap and 2 miles from BlueRidge Pkwy. Anyone interested contact me before you go. I can usually get away.
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Nicely done! It's good to see the old girl go through her paces. Was that a door stop in the shape of a Harley that you passed @ 11:06?

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Not wanting to be a kill joy .... but .... is it legal there to pass on a double yellow? Seems a tad hypocritical to wear ATGATT and then take the risks you did .... but who am I to judge

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Very impressive! Wife and I were up there just the week before. I keep dragging my center stand. Don't know if there's a way to get the bike to sit taller or not. But yes....the LT does well for a big girl!

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Not wanting to be a kill joy .... but .... is it legal there to pass on a double yellow? Seems a tad hypocritical to wear ATGATT and then take the risks you did .... but who am I to judge
I am a firm believer that rules and laws are for those not smart enough to make decisions on their own. It looks to me that he was riding within his limits.

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I am a firm believer that rules and laws are for those not smart enough to make decisions on their own. It looks to me that he was riding within his limits.
Over the years I guess I've been thru the Dragon 20+ times on my way North. I remember crossing that double solid 3 or 4 times to get around slower traffic that either wasn't watching their mirrors or didn't care and felt that everyone should be satisfied going 25mph.I could wait for them I guess but then I'd be riding home in snow. I won't do it unless I have clear line of sight. So far, by Gods Mercy, perceived abilities have not exceeded actual abilities. That could change anytime thus the armor for the unknown generated by myself or someone else. If that makes me a hypocrite, I plead guilty. Next time any of you are doing 5 over posted with your seat belt on--welcome to the club.
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Not wanting to be a kill joy .... but .... is it legal there to pass on a double yellow? Seems a tad hypocritical to wear ATGATT and then take the risks you did .... but who am I to judge
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I'm right there with ya Brian! If it ain't fun then why we doin it? Ride within your own known limits and do it with ATGATT because you cannot control everything around you when on two wheels.

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Maybe I should clarify my position .... not being judgmental, just think there are responsibilities to a site like this ... being famous of ATGATT, seems the group should promote safe riding ... not doubting anyones abilities and did not call anyone hypocritical ... was speaking more to site responsibility than anything else ... sorry if I offended ... I for one don't ride with ATGATT ... it's a personal choice ... Ralph Nader not withstanding ...

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I ride the speed limit. Always! Not 5 over but the actual speed limit. However, I do like to get to the limit quickly! I once asked the local LEO if there were any laws pertaining to how fast one accelerates to match traffic flow when entering the freeway. No law to regulate how fast you get up to speed as long as you don't exceed the speed limit.

The double yellow line thing? Hmmmmmmmm. I have been known to pass a big butt Winnebago in the twisties when they are going 10 - 15 mph. Illegal? Oh yeah. Would I whine if I got a ticket? Nope! There are often times when it is safe to pass against a double yellow with the LT when it would not be safe to pass with a car. Is it right to do it? No, but what the heck.

I just thought of a couple times when I have exceeded the speed limit for a few moments. Passing a truck going uphill I have been known to start the pass in 2nd gear and top 100 mph by the time I got to the cab of the truck. Fun City! I do slow right back down to the speed limit!

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Sweet and 2 up--pretty impressive!

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Did you improve the suspension??? I was just missing the typical sound of the center stand in the video We have many roads like the Gap in the Alps. To be honest, I also like to ride in a way like you did - but when I have a look at the video, I wouldn`t do it there because it is just to busy. You never know about the riding skills of your frontrunner............

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I am so unworthy.....

What was the exhaust on the girl..... sounded really quite "raspy" very pleasant.

You made the bike look very flickable.

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Very and thanx for the post..........enjoyed it and am looking forward to getting to ride it myself..............very soooueeet...............



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I am so unworthy.....

What was the exhaust on the girl..... sounded really quite "raspy" very pleasant.

You made the bike look very flickable.

Loved It.

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Did you improve the suspension??? I was just missing the typical sound of the center stand in the video We have many roads like the Gap in the Alps. To be honest, I also like to ride in a way like you did - but when I have a look at the video, I wouldn`t do it there because it is just to busy. You never know about the riding skills of your frontrunner............
Wilber front and back. Center stand,kick stand, footpegs,boots,shifter and engine shroud are ground down for clearence. You can do it in the shop but its more fun to do it in the road. I told Wilber to set for aged, semi-aggressive, intermediate rider and I think their definition differs from mine.Although the Wilbers suspend better than the stock shots they eventually cave in to the overall weight of 2 up.Stiffer would be better and allow even higher mph in the corners but that just translates -your going faster when you go down-. It really wasn't busy that monday. At least compared to a wkend. And whenever I can follow some young guns thru they give a heads up to oncoming traffic and I stay far enough back so if one bobbles or bites it I can stop safely, God Willing
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I ride the speed limit. Always! Not 5 over but the actual speed limit. I just thought of a couple times when I have exceeded the speed limit for a few moments. Passing a truck going uphill I have been known to start the pass in 2nd gear and top 100 mph by the time I got to the cab of the truck. Fun City! I do slow right back down to the speed limit!

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So technically Loren you can honestly say " Not 5 over" cause its more like 45 over
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Nicely done! It's good to see the old girl go through her paces. Was that a door stop in the shape of a Harley that you passed @ 11:06?

2 up no less!

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Ummmmmmm yeah. But only for a short while. If you average it out over the number if miles I ride in a year...... This ain't gonna fly in court is it?

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Not bragging here I'm kind of ashamed of myself. But in June when going back up the Dragon there was a Super Moto bike passing everyone and I saw him and I held him off for many turns he could catch me in the turns but I pulled from him on the straights aways this continued until we came upon a Goldwing with trailor crashed. Was plenty of help already at wreck. Rode up a few more turns and advised a trooper of the wreck. He was not to excited about it. I then regained my senses and remembered I'd old enought to know better. I also would not have done this two up or will I do it by myself again. But it did give me a rush of youth.
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I did the Dragon this past June. I was there at Deal's Gap for almost a week. Had one hell of a good time going up and down the Dragon on my LT. Scraped all the usual stuff including the front of my right boot coming out one of the turns. Coming back down to Deal's Gap, the Gravity Well is one hell of a surprise the first time you encounter it. What rush! Wished it had not of rained so much while I was there. But that just added to the fun! New tent leaked. Was supposed to be seam sealed at factory, but some needle holes didn't get the treatment.

As to my speed running the Dragon, I ran it up to 50-55 in the straights when I could. Took the twisties in 1st and 2nd gears to keep the power on. The old girl did her paces with style and grace! It was the most fun I have had in a long time. Looking forward to going again. Maybe even taking the wife next time. She would love to do it in her Miata.

Great video and loved the sound of the engine as you shifted through the gears. Looking forward to next year!
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" And whenever I can follow some young guns thru they give a heads up to oncoming traffic and I stay far enough back so if one bobbles or bites it I can stop safely, God Willing"

Now there is the difference between a hot-headed squid that thinks he can ride and someone that has ridden a few laps in the world. You don't crowd each other when you are playing chase...
Super smooth riding and great video. I bookmarked it so I can have some winter entertainment. Just makes me want to get out and ride though
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Thank you. I can't ride anymore but at least I could pretend. I could even pretend that I could ride that good.

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Now there is the difference between a hot-headed squid that thinks he can ride and someone that has ridden a few laps in the world. You don't crowd each other when you are playing chase...
Super smooth riding and great video. I bookmarked it so I can have some winter entertainment. Just makes me want to get out and ride though
Samir, I will say you have one heck of a riding partner to ride those curves at the no-chicken-strip speeds you had going.[/QUOTE]



Doug: We all enjoy appreciation now and then so thanks for the kind words. JC Whitney sells those "STAY PUT" riding companions that velcro in and also will deflate and slide under the bike when it tips over to help it back up when its reinflated with a mini compressor. . Seriously though no one appreciated your post more than my wife because until now I'm the only one that has expressed to her what a good job she does back there. We all know that 2 up is a team effort and from monitoring traffic and road hazards around us to rubbing my shoulders thru that armor she has been more than a passenger. And now that she has learned to pick her inside foot up its not costing us so much to have a new heel installed. Really honey, its nails not gum causing your heel to stick to the motel rm carpet. She wants to go back 60 miles and look for it and I'm thinking-OH YA we'll get those boots to match one way or the other. Thanks again Doug you've got a cool playground almost in your backyard. If you ever want to see what your LT looks like from behind at the Dragon--call

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VERY nice riding, man. Can't quite keep up to the serious sport bikes but can blow away any pure touring bike on the market. I've riden that beatiful road many times and love it. This year did it with my wife on her own Ninja 250 and she loved it too. Great video. Thanks.
Thats a bit of a hike for a 250--hope she trailered it there
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Jeff: You're not alone, we're all just pretending. The truly good ones are making a living at it, the rest of us are just chasing after that " personal best". I often wonder if a SUV in a left turn is on its way to me and I can only pray that my wife is not on the back if and when. If I was to survive I don't know what I would replace it with because its the only thing I have found that delivers exhilaration and is legal. Sometimes I lean way forwards while Pam leans over me operating throttle and clutch and I work shifter and brake. My wife has had 27 years to learn to trust me. If you think you could learn to trust me in a shorter period of time I know you would fit fine behind me. We would have to practice before taking on any Dragons.We've got until the snow melts to think about it. Sooooo--about the front end of that toy your riding now. Does it ever see any air?
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"...no one appreciated your post more than my wife because until now I'm the only one that has expressed to her what a good job she does back there. We all know that 2 up is a team effort..." quote

I ride 2-up 90% of the time and my spouse has saved my bacon on a couple of occasions with a timely weight shift. ...and I have ridden 2-up with one who does NOT know how to ride and it is not nearly as much fun...

And yeah, I likes me backyard...

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Wah, wah, wah on crossing the double yellow. See more below.

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PERFECT example of a safe double yellow pass. As quickly as these things accelerate you could easily have passed that pick up x 2.

Finally, watching the video I know without a doubt you were having a good time. All one has to do is watch the tach bouncing around between 5K to 7K+ to know yu are having a party!

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Nice ride and video Gary. "Just Ride"
Fun and safe ride John although the wet makes me tentative, wish I could have been there.
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