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post #1 of 19 Old Oct 19th, 2011, 7:10 pm Thread Starter
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What will fit this gps mount?

What are my options of gps units that will fit this mount?

And does that funny looking plug let the gps sound come through th stock wired bmw headsets?
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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

Garmin Street Pilot series 2610, 27xx and I think there was a 28xx also. All out of production now but they do show up on Flea bay and some other MC web sites.

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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

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Garmin Street Pilot series 2610, 27xx and I think there was a 28xx also. All out of production now but they do show up on Flea bay and some other MC web sites.
correct on 2820 also.

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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

2820 is a great GPS for this mount.

Easy to use, is BT and holds a few audiobooks for listening pleasure. Also water-proof.
Does fad out in direct sunlight.

Need to get new maps every year, but is the one I have had for 4 years and has worked flawless for long trips.

Saw one on ebay for 70.00

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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

So does that plug just supply power to the gps? Or does it also let the sound come through the radio speakers and or stock headsets?
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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

That plug "could" do line out sound from the gps so you could hear GPS instructions through your headset via the intercom. It could also be power only depending on which part was used. Usually the MC mount version had a audio out plug that split out from that one and you would use another cable to the audio in for the intercom.

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So does that plug just supply power to the gps? Or does it also let the sound come through the radio speakers and or stock headsets?
I don't know if it works with the speakers, never tried it, it does play through the corded headsets. It will mute the music and comm for commands then return to regularly scheduled programs.
My bike has the NAVIII, fits that mount. It's a Garmin unit, probably one of the models mentioned above.
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http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fic...5&rnd=03252011

77_0340 - RETROFIT KIT NAVIGATOR II

That one connector powers the unit and takes the audio to a cable ending with a female.

I do not want to look down at my radio to see a GPS.

My GPS is mounted on an after market shelf at the top of the "dash board". I prefer looking slightly to my right to see my GPS. But, if I have to change a setting I have to use my throttle hand.

So, I recently moved it to the left hand side. I haven't been able to go for a ride since I moved it.

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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

That is the power end that fits into the slot of the GPS.

2820 does not have a battery, its only powered with that cable.

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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

BMW/Garmin made two units to fit that mount. The Navigator II and Navigator III. The II unit is out date and no longer supported by Garmin, the III is still supported by Garmin. Both units are available sometimes on EBAY. Expect to pay upwards of $300.o for the III unit. The good part about that mount is it is fused in the fuse box under the seat. Both units work quite well. Hope this helps you.
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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

To be exact, that mount is NOT a BMW Nav II or III mount. It is a standard Garmin 2810 or equivalent. BMW Navigator mount has the extra four buttons on the left side of the mount.
Therefore, since the mount is Garmin and not BMW (which of course is also made by Garmin) I presume that the cable is also standard Garmin.
This leads to the doubt that the cable with all the pins is only using two pins +12V and ground, therefore it is only supplying power to the GPS unit, no sound or anything else.

Original BMW Nav II / III harness has a connection to BMW Intercom for receiving the GPS voice commands. For non-BMW intercoms there is a separate 2,5 mm female jack that supplies GPS sound to Autocom, Baehr etc. However, the GPS units at that time were not designed for music listening and thus there was no stereo output from GPS.

If you find it hard to find an older Garmin / BMW GPS you can use the base mount for a new Garmin Zumo 660 (or BMW nav IV) , for instance.
You just unscrew the four allen screws and install a Zumo mount instead.
However, you need to replace the existing power cable with the Zumo harness. That has all the outputs (and inputs) for connecting it with your bike intercom as well as with your cell phone if you wish.

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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

The connector shown in the OP picture supplies 12V+, 12V-, Input to the NAVIII if you have the mount with the left side buttons, and audio out. It doesn't have an internal speaker or battery.

With the car kit option it uses an external speaker attached to the power plug.
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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

I just took that mount off my 09. I still have the 2820 garmin that fits it. Only had power to the unit, no sound.

Installed the 665 in its place. Had to make spacers to off set the bump on the back of the garmin mount to the bike mount. Hooked the power up to the same plug and have keyed power to the unit.

Still looking for the right connections to wire the sound to the VOICE 2 with out using the plug on the front.

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I just took that mount off my 09. I still have the 2820 garmin that fits it. Only had power to the unit, no sound.

Installed the 665 in its place. Had to make spacers to off set the bump on the back of the garmin mount to the bike mount. Hooked the power up to the same plug and have keyed power to the unit.

Still looking for the right connections to wire the sound to the VOICE 2 with out using the plug on the front.

Are you geting rid of your old 2820? If so I might be interested.
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Are you geting rid of your old 2820? If so I might be interested.

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Re: What will fit this gps mount?

How do I get to where the power wires run up to the gps? I mean back under the plastic behind the radio. Do I have to remove all the tupperware to get to that area? Or does the top piece come off some how for access to where the wires hook up under there?
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Pins 7&8 (the top two in your picture) are speaker - and speaker + for line out sound of the garmin street pilot. The MC cable had a second cable split off for sound. The automobile cable people would cut off the and and had both sound and power in the one cable. I use the line out for the voice out for Betty to speak. For music on the 2820 you want the other dedicated sound out external plug to get stereo. For power I connected to the battery (it had an inline fuse) so I could turn off the bike and not have to turn off the GPS at gas stops. Also handy to power the device and check weather and alternative routes without having to turn on the ignition. I routed my power and intercom cables under the gas tank when I had it off for maintenance. But I had my street pilot mout on a BMR shelf above the instrument panel with the cable going throuh the map light. So yours would be different.

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You have to take the part that holds the radio (the stingray) out to get to these wires. To do that you have to take both upper side panels loose to get to the screws.

Lift up the seat, there are a couple of screws down there, open the glove compartment door, more screws there. The screws next to the steering head, one on each side.

Remove the mirrors and the lower wind deflectors, there is a screw behind each one.

You also have to pop the side panels loose from the top mounts they fit in to.

Not to hard just kind of complex. Mark where the screws go when you take them out and be careful putting the side panels back on. There is a tab to get back in place along the top edge.

Or just call me, it's easier to talk you through over the phone then me trying to type it all down.

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How do I get to where the power wires run up to the gps? I mean back under the plastic behind the radio. Do I have to remove all the tupperware to get to that area? Or does the top piece come off some how for access to where the wires hook up under there?
Just as a side comment:
Since your bike seems to be the facelift model it has a factory installed power output for gps. It can well be that the previous owner had the gps powered from there.
The plug is located behind the three connectors on the left side of the radio stngray.
If you don't find a counterpart for the power plug (since it is prewired for the BMW navigator) just cut ff the plug and replace it with a type you can find both parts.
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