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Question Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

Can someone tell me what I have here, on an '09 K1200LT? It's obviously a GPS mount, but I need to know what my options are for mounting a GPS there, and what other parts, cables, etc., I need to put it into use. I looked through the BMW master catalog last night and I'm still confused.

Another plastic piece - painted to match the stingray - came with the bike. It appears to slide over the mount shown in the photo.

Will my Zumo 550 work with this?
Do I have to get a BMW-branded GPS in order to have FULL functionality with the Voice 2 intercom?
What other things do I need to know about this...?

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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

The two cables are identical to the setup I have for the BMW Nav III. The mount is a little different shape to mine but the 4 screw holes line up to the Nav III holes, so I'm betting on a bike that new Nav III. I have a Zumo 660 on my other bike and the connector is not like that so I'm not thinking it's a Nav IV setup.

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I would have to bet that wiring harness is for a Nav III GPS. If you hooked up a Nav III it would come through your voice II comm system. The black portion of the mount has two small slots on each side for a total of four. These slots are for four small nuts that slide into the black portion of the mount. Then you would slide the painted portion of the mount over the black mount. The NavIII came with a cradle with push buttons on the cradle, this cradle then screws into the four holes/nuts, then the GPS device clips into the cradle.

As far as the Zumo you would have to replace the wiring harness that’s on you 09 LT with one for the Zumo…

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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

Thanks for the comments so far. I get what you're saying.

I tried installing my Zumo 550 on the factory mount but it doesn't fit. The 550 mount is vertical and there isn't enough clearance between it and the stingray, so it has to be one of the newer GPSs - the Garmin 660 or 665, or the 660-equivalent Navigator IV. These units have a horizontal mount I think.

Also (looking at the first photo) you'll see there are TWO cables. One of these is power for the GPS; what is the other cable for?

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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

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The two cables are identical to the setup I have for the BMW Nav III. The mount is a little different shape to mine but the 4 screw holes line up to the Nav III holes, so I'm betting on a bike that new Nav III. I have a Zumo 660 on my other bike and the connector is not like that so I'm not thinking it's a Nav IV setup.
I'll bet the Navigator IV's connectors do match what I have. I'm trying to get a look at one somewhere.

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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

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Thanks for the comments so far. I get what you're saying.

I tried installing my Zumo 550 on the factory mount but it doesn't fit. The 550 mount is vertical and there isn't enough clearance between it and the stingray, so it has to be one of the newer GPSs - the Garmin 660 or 665, or the 660-equivalent Navigator IV. These units have a horizontal mount I think.

Also (looking at the first photo) you'll see there are TWO cables. One of these is power for the GPS; what is the other cable for?
You are correct Howard, they are for the 'newer' gps units. The other cable is for audio so you can get your stereo output like xm radio out, mp3 audio out from the multi feature GPS to your intercom.

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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

What do you do with the other cable - the one other than the GPS power cable? What products/cables do you need to make it work? It's the odd-shaped cable in these photos.
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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

I found this image on Goggle. It shows the mount on my LT and a Zumo 550, so it can be done. Now I have to understand how he got the 550 cradle to work.


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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

Howard, in regards to your cables, the round one goes to the cradle side of the Nav III which makes the buttons on the left side of the cradle work. The other one slides into the back of the GPS.
I would love to see the mount/setup for the zumo in the picture you posted.

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Re: Factory GPS Mount on K1200LT

I also found this photo, which I took at CCR 2006. It shows the two cables:

1. The cable with the round connector is coming into the back of the cradle, directly behind the BMW-custom 4 buttons.
2. The cable with the odd-shaped connector is on the right side of the cradle. What does this cable do?

Is what I have called the "BMW GPS prep" kit?

And if what I have works only for the Nav III (BMW's version of the StreetPilot), I don't want that. First choice is to use my existing Zumo 550. Second choice is to get the Nav IV (BMW's version of the Zumo 660).
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Howard, I am not sure if what you have will fit with a Nav IV, it would most certainly fit the Nav III. But since you said you don't want the Nav III you will have to hope someone with the Nav IV responds to you question regarding the wire harness you presently have fitting the Nav IV.

You might be looking at removing the harness and installing a new one to fit what ever GPS you finally decide on putting on the LT.

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What do you do with the other cable - the one other than the GPS power cable? What products/cables do you need to make it work? It's the odd-shaped cable in these photos.
Let's see if I can help.
I am going to label your pictures 1 & 2 so we have some clarity as we speak. I also have '09/'10 black LT and at dealer looked exactly like yours #2 with two cable wire tied in plastic bag. And the piece/cover (the same color as the stingray) was also still packaged in side bag. I never had motorcycle Gps before so I jumped on the Nav IV which I had research. I did not do the install they did but I remember being told the Nav works with the factory installed setup. Also I have V.O.I.C.E. II
After install only one cable is protruding to right side of mount. My best guess is the 2nd cable is attached to the comm.
OK results: if your #2 is before here is what after looks like. Hope it helps.
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Very nice Bill, looks great, I like the look. Does the voice II pickup the audio from the GPS so you can hear the GPS in your helmet???

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Very nice Bill, looks great, I like the look. Does the voice II pickup the audio from the GPS so you can hear the GPS in your helmet???
+1 on both comments! Nice additional info and photos, and that helps a lot. My GOAL is to get a Nav IV on this factory mount. I heard today from the dealer I bought it from that only the Nav III works, and I am hoping he is wrong.

I also have the same question as Chipper - does the audio go into the helmet, which is also another goal. If I have to mount my Zumo 550 there I'm OK with that but sound in the headset is a must...

Both cables in my current (new) setup do NOT look like what you show in your photos. I'm guessing they have to do something fancy beneath the stingray.

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So far the one thing we have in common is factory/install mounts on '09 LT's.
Let me answer the facts first. Yes I hear the Gps though my head set. That was my main goal in getting the Gps and Head set both new to me on a bike. I did not need head set for CD/radio and my wife does no usually ride long distance. Back to the topic, I have a Honda van built in Gps and it mutes the sound when the GPs girl is giving info. That does not happen on the bike (wish it did) but I still hear it clearly still reading different threads to increase volume.
OK look at my 4th picture I am trying to get the bottom right side. I got to think a factory install is standard on all bike for that model/year (again my Nav IV which I am sure of is dealer installed but the mount was there already). That cable that's visible has the following - -444 -OK CHENO UEI at the end goes into a rectangular box on the GPS carriage. So I would say the one with the round fitting has to be under the stingray. I hope someone with more knowledge could set us all straight. I have no intentions of taking it loose to find out. Hope I was a little help.
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Bill was the wiring harness installed by a dealer????

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I am going over my GARMIN - BMW Motorrad Navigator IV. manual
It does not show but tell you a cable connects from the back of carriage to power on the bike. Similarly if being used in an auto it shows a power cable from source to the back of unit. Since the Nav iv has an independent speaker and vol controls and zoom my guess is the cable we see is definitely the power cable which means the other hidden is going to the comm. system.
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Bill was the wiring harness installed by a dealer????
NO not the harness. When I looked at the bike on showroom floor that was already in place and the cables were protected in a plastic baggie with a wire tie. I looked just like the picture in the original post. I even thought it was a plug n play until I was told about the comm. system. I thought I would be doing it myself. But since I bought the GPS at the same time with the bike the dealer did the install. MY main interest was it works.
ride safe. Are you distinguishing the cable with any numbers or markings?
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NO not the harness. When I looked at the bike on showroom floor that was already in place and the cables were protected in a plastic baggie with a wire tie. I looked just like the picture in the original post. I even thought it was a plug n play until I was told about the comm. system. I thought I would be doing it myself. But since I bought the GPS at the same time with the bike the dealer did the install. MY main interest was it works.
ride safe. Are you distinguishing the cable with any numbers or markings?
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Ok, thanks for the info Bill.

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..... When I looked at the bike on showroom floor that was already in place and the cables were protected in a plastic baggie with a wire tie. It looked just like the picture in the original post.....
This is very promising, for me. It tells me that I, too, can get a Nav IV on my '09 LT.

Did you pay extra to have it installed? Getting into the stingray to do those cabling changes can be very expensive.

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I found this image on Goggle. It shows the mount on my LT and a Zumo 550, so it can be done. Now I have to understand how he got the 550 cradle to work.

When I bought my LT it had a Zumo 550 Mount on it ... since I have the Harley Zumo 550 this worked out well .... since my bike is in the shop I can't give you a pic of the mount ... should be done this week

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You can always go custom. I mounted my gps in line of sight. Very easy to use while riding. I picked up some spray paint at Pep boys that matched my 2005 dash. Good luck with your install.
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When I bought my LT it had a Zumo 550 Mount on it ... since I have the Harley Zumo 550 this worked out well .... since my bike is in the shop I can't give you a pic of the mount ... should be done this week
If it used the factory mount I'd be interested in seeing that. Thanks.

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You can always go custom. I mounted my gps in line of sight. Very easy to use while riding. I picked up some spray paint at Pep boys that matched my 2005 dash. Good luck with your install.
I saw your custom GPS mount - or one exactly like it - at the Iron Horse Lodge in NC on a previous visit. That's an impressive bit of work, but I'm looking to use the factory mount if possible.

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It is not the Zumo hardware. I used the Garmin 760 and used it's windshield mount which I fastened to the plexiglas enclosure. What I liked about my mount is that is is very secure, rainproof and I never take it off the bike. If someone were to to steal it I can replace it with another one from e-bay for about $70.00.

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You can always go custom. I mounted my gps in line of sight. Very easy to use while riding. I picked up some spray paint at Pep boys that matched my 2005 dash. Good luck with your install.
Very nice setup Harold.

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The mount point is universal it requires a bracket for mounting a Gps

The wires are for BMW's zumo 550 which cost an extra 500 to 700 above a standard zumo cost you gain a few functions zoom and volume control with bmw version but IMO not worth the additional cost.

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NO not the harness. When I looked at the bike on showroom floor that was already in place and the cables were protected in a plastic baggie with a wire tie. I looked just like the picture in the original post. I even thought it was a plug n play until I was told about the comm. system. I thought I would be doing it myself. But since I bought the GPS at the same time with the bike the dealer did the install. MY main interest was it works.
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Bill, I'm trying to contact you. Can you email or PM me a phone # or email address where I can ask more questions about your Navigator IV install? I'd like to get in touch with your dealer and ask them what they did, how they did it, etc. - so I can tell my hometown dealer how to do the same thing.

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Does anybody know the part # for the cable harness for Nav IV on my 09LT? BMW dealer has a problem to find it
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Does anybody know the part # for the cable harness for Nav IV on my 09LT? BMW dealer has a problem to find it
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Andy, did you get an answer to this question? I'm still trying to mount a BMW Nav IV (or a Zumo 660) on my '09 LT. I would like to know (a) the part # of the wiring harness that you and I are both looking for, and (b) the name of the dealer who did the Nav IV installation for billsmith on this site. Bill has some posts in this thread, and has done what I'm trying to; I tried to contact him but no luck yet.

Please let me know if you find the part # for the Nav IV wiring harness.
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Andy, did you get an answer to this question? I'm still trying to mount a BMW Nav IV (or a Zumo 660) on my '09 LT. I would like to know (a) the part # of the wiring harness that you and I are both looking for, and (b) the name of the dealer who did the Nav IV installation for billsmith on this site. Bill has some posts in this thread, and has done what I'm trying to; I tried to contact him but no luck yet.

Please let me know if you find the part # for the Nav IV wiring harness.
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For the 660 to mount to your '09 LT (same as mine), you have to use the included (or purchased seperatly) motorcycle mount kit.

As you can see, this is what comes in the box for the Zumo 660, I do not believe that the mount comes with the Zumo 660. (sneaky bastards). The BMW Mount comes with the NAV IV I understand.



You then have to purchase seperatly the mount for the motorcycle.



After you have all the pieces you take off the "stingray" (I believe this is what it is called) and remove this cable and replace with the Zumo mount


One end of the cable provides power to the cradle. There are three other cables that you can tie wrap and stuff under the bike, or you can run them into the odments box like I did.
The extra cables are audio in, audio out and a usb cable for plugging into your laptop and programming and upliading maps to the zumo while in the cradle and on the bike



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Here is the mount and the Zumo 660 on my LT


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Andy, did you get an answer to this question? I'm still trying to mount a BMW Nav IV (or a Zumo 660) on my '09 LT. I would like to know (a) the part # of the wiring harness that you and I are both looking for, and (b) the name of the dealer who did the Nav IV installation for billsmith on this site. Bill has some posts in this thread, and has done what I'm trying to; I tried to contact him but no luck yet.

Please let me know if you find the part # for the Nav IV wiring harness.
Thanks.

From what I can tell, the cable for the mount comes with the Nav IV as per this picture.



You or the dealer should be able to pull the existing cables and directly replace the cables that are part of the BMW NAV IV cradle and should be good to go.

PLEASE let me know if this works.

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Paul, this is excellent info and photos - thank you very much!

I talked with my dealer today. He is on board with replacing the Nav III cables on my '09 LT with the cables for the Nav IV or Zumo 660, whichever I go with. I'm leaning towards the Zumo 660 because all of its interaces are available - unlike those on the Nav IV, as I understand it.

Is your Zumo 660 connected to the Voice II intercom... or how does the audio get to your helmet?

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I am not sure what you mean by "interaces are available - unlike those on the Nav IV,"

I do not have an intercom system. I use the Scala Rider.

Also I ride single never with a Pillion.

So I load the Zumo with "NPR" podcasts and "rock it" on my Scala...

I had the BMW NAV III and the extra buttons were extra cool when I had it..

Also I am not sure but I thought the NAV IV came with weather and SAT communication, those would be cool to have....

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I am not sure what you mean by "interaces are available - unlike those on the Nav IV,"

I do not have an intercom system. I use the Scala Rider.

Also I ride single never with a Pillion.

So I load the Zumo with "NPR" podcasts and "rock it" on my Scala...

I had the BMW NAV III and the extra buttons were extra cool when I had it..

Also I am not sure but I thought the NAV IV came with weather and SAT communication, those would be cool to have....
Sorry, I should have been more specific about that. As I have learned from reading other threads on this topic, there are 2 ports on the Nav IV that are unavailable when the GPS is in its cradle - a microphone in and and an audio out, I believe. So, you can't use those ports ('interfaces'). I've never seen either GPS (Nav IV or Zumo 660) but that is what I read on this site, in another thread.

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I ended up removing the factory (dealer) wiring and connecting my Zumo 660 directly to the com system in the oddments box. You have to drill a hole in the box to get the cables in there.

I had to use several 1:1 audio transformers to isolate it to get rid of noise. But I hooked it into the phone connector on the com. So it does mute the radio when the GPS instructions come through. I can also then use the bluetooth phone interface in the 660 to talk on the phone through the headsets.

I basically made an adapter that connects to the 2 plugs on the Garmin harness (audio in and out) and connected them to the phone plug. I'd have to dig but I think I wrote down the actual pinouts. But it's not hard to figure out or I can pull out the cable I made and take a meter to it. The big thing was the audio transformers (actually I'd have to look I may have only needed one on the mic line) without it all you got was a loud hum and you would think it's never going to work.

Only downfall is that the audio is mono. Not a big deal though as it's only GPS voice and Phone. I don't use the MP3 player in the GPS. I have XM radio/MP3 player for music. I also had to use the transformers for those to eliminate noise when they are charging off of the bike.


While I was at it I added a USB charging port in the oddments box. So I can plug in my phone/mp3/Xm... Basically anything that will charge from USB. I used a car USB adapter and cracked it open and wired the 12v directly to it (from the switched radio power) then used a USB extension cable to get the connector into the box (I cut and reattached the cable so I wouldn't have to drill a big hole).

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Sorry, I should have been more specific about that. As I have learned from reading other threads on this topic, there are 2 ports on the Nav IV that are unavailable when the GPS is in its cradle - a microphone in and and an audio out, I believe. So, you can't use those ports ('interfaces'). I've never seen either GPS (Nav IV or Zumo 660) but that is what I read on this site, in another thread.

Yes, I believe that you are right, except that the two "missing" ports are available when you have the BMW communication system.

If you look at the picture of the NAV IV, I believe that one is for power the other is to conenct with the BMW comm.

But again, I prefer the Scala Rider as my speakers when not using the stereo

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I have the exact two cables on my 05 LT. It has a Garmin Navigator II Road Pilot.
Because my eyesight isn't what it use to be I'm switching to an automotive 7 inch Magellan. Can I splice the old wiring to make this work and if so, what do I need to do? I don't really care about voice commands but if its workable I'll do it.
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Andy, did you get an answer to this question? I'm still trying to mount a BMW Nav IV (or a Zumo 660) on my '09 LT. I would like to know (a) the part # of the wiring harness that you and I are both looking for, and (b) the name of the dealer who did the Nav IV installation for billsmith on this site. Bill has some posts in this thread, and has done what I'm trying to; I tried to contact him but no luck yet.

Please let me know if you find the part # for the Nav IV wiring harness.
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No my very humble apologies. Someone just revived this thread and in going through it I see I was a no show when I was needed. I can't recall what was going on in my life back then and how I managed to miss it. But I hope your situation was resolved no thanks to me.
My Nav iv is still not performing a 100% as it should but it gives me the basics I want from it. Just last fall I tried it out for storing mp3 for the first time playing around but was a flop. I mentioned to dealer who still has to look at it. But the display says 'plug in bluetooth headset' or 2ADP or something. It works in my hand off the bike with a 3mm ear plug but not in the cradle. And my radio still does not mute when following audio prompts. Like I said the rest of features get the job done. Once again sorry I failed on this thread.
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I have the exact two cables on my 05 LT. It has a Garmin Navigator II Road Pilot.
Because my eyesight isn't what it use to be I'm switching to an automotive 7 inch Magellan. Can I splice the old wiring to make this work and if so, what do I need to do? I don't really care about voice commands but if its workable I'll do it.
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I think the wire harness is meant for Garmin products. I don't know what alterations you would have to make to get things to match up. Someone of more technical knowledge would better assist. How about a magnifying flex over the original screen.
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For the 660 to mount to your '09 LT (same as mine), you have to use the included (or purchased seperatly) motorcycle mount kit.

As you can see, this is what comes in the box for the Zumo 660, I do not believe that the mount comes with the Zumo 660. (sneaky bastards). The BMW Mount comes with the NAV IV I understand.



You then have to purchase seperatly the mount for the motorcycle.



After you have all the pieces you take off the "stingray" (I believe this is what it is called) and remove this cable and replace with the Zumo mount


One end of the cable provides power to the cradle. There are three other cables that you can tie wrap and stuff under the bike, or you can run them into the odments box like I did.
The extra cables are audio in, audio out and a usb cable for plugging into your laptop and programming and upliading maps to the zumo while in the cradle and on the bike



Here is what the mount looks like on my LT


Here is the mount and the Zumo 660 on my LT


Here is the Mount the Zumo and a custom shield a friend made for me for free

This is exactly how i have my zumo 660 mounted on my 09, only thing is i used longer screws and longer bushings, in order to have 4 bushings... i didnt want bottom screws visible

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No my very humble apologies. Someone just revived this thread and in going through it I see I was a no show when I was needed. I can't recall what was going on in my life back then and how I managed to miss it. But I hope your situation was resolved no thanks to me.
My Nav iv is still not performing a 100% as it should but it gives me the basics I want from it. Just last fall I tried it out for storing mp3 for the first time playing around but was a flop. I mentioned to dealer who still has to look at it. But the display says 'plug in bluetooth headset' or 2ADP or something. It works in my hand off the bike with a 3mm ear plug but not in the cradle. And my radio still does not mute when following audio prompts. Like I said the rest of features get the job done. Once again sorry I failed on this thread.
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No worries, Bill. We got it figured out and it's been up and running for some time. There's a couple of things that I can't get working properly but they are not cosmic.

As with most questions on this site we have access to multiple experts, so we're good. Thanks for the follow-up.

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This thread is really going to help me install my Zumo 665 onto my lt. I'm probably just going to end up wiring it up to the battery and finding somewhere to mount the XM. Thanks for the head start on what parts to order. Or is there a BMW plug and play wire that I could splice in?


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This thread is really going to help me install my Zumo 665 onto my lt. I'm probably just going to end up wiring it up to the battery and finding somewhere to mount the XM. Thanks for the head start on what parts to order. Or is there a BMW plug and play wire that I could splice in?


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Hi guys. I know this is an oldish thread but need a little help.
I have an 08 LT and recently got hold of a nav 3.
The bike has a new sat nav bracket fitted but I have no idea how to get the 'stingray' off or where the wiring harness goes under it.
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I just purchased a 09 k1200lt. It has a zomo 550 on a mount on the top of the conpartment that the cd is under. My partner and I took the intercom bc1 out of my 99 1200lt and put it on the 09. It is works fine and everything comes throught the helmet speakers. The zumo apparently is not hooked up to anything. There is a cord comming out the back of the cradel. Apparently it is not hooked up to anything. I would like to know how to hook it up so all of the options on the gps works and can be heard in the helmet. I went on the Garmin site an downloaded the owners manuel. I can not find any information on how to wire the unit to my bike. Calling Garmin was a waste of time. If anyone has any information on how to hook this thing up I would be realy grateful or if anyone they has a wiring diagram. Thanks for reading this. I didnt know where to post this.
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Thanks for the comments so far. I get what you're saying.

I tried installing my Zumo 550 on the factory mount but it doesn't fit. The 550 mount is vertical and there isn't enough clearance between it and the stingray, so it has to be one of the newer GPSs - the Garmin 660 or 665, or the 660-equivalent Navigator IV. These units have a horizontal mount I think.

Also (looking at the first photo) you'll see there are TWO cables. One of these is power for the GPS; what is the other cable for?
My 07 has that same mount and had the BMW Zumo 550 mounted on that exact mount, Not sure about the cable. If you want i could post a picture?

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My 07 has that same mount and had the BMW Zumo 550 mounted on that exact mount, Not sure about the cable. If you want i could post a picture?
Thanks for the offer, but I'm good - this is an old thread and the question was resolved a long time ago.

On second thought, posting it might help someone else, so go ahead!

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