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I'm thinking of doing the Bun burner Iron butt ride. That is 1500 miles in 36hrs. I'll be leaving from Northern MI. Tentatively I'm thinking of heading down I-69 to I-65 down to Nashville, over to Knoxville then back up I-75 to home. Am I right in thinking that the weekend is the best time to do this? No construction, no commuter traffic. What about leaving Sat morn on Labor Day weekend. It seems that most vacationers would already be to their destination by then.

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That sounds like a good plan.... If you can time it so that you hit the larger cities either very early oy or late (not bar close time thou), that might help as well... Is this your first IB attempt..?
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That sounds like a good plan.... If you can time it so that you hit the larger cities either very early oy or late (not bar close time thou), that might help as well... Is this your first IB attempt..?


Yes this will be my first one!

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Not to brag or sound like I know it all - that's the farthest from the truth... But I have done several 1000's and a 2000 Iron butt rides.... The few things I found to be the most beneficial is to plan your ride/ride your plan and to monitor the length of your breaks - it's not easy as one would think to "make up time" on the road. Also - make sure you diligently record/maintian your documents as needed. Other than that - it's alot of fun and great feeling of accomplishment. Enjoy!!
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Not to brag or sound like I know it all - that's the farthest from the truth... But I have done several 1000's and a 2000 Iron butt rides.... The few things I found to be the most beneficial is to plan your ride/ride your plan and to monitor the length of your breaks - it's not easy as one would think to "make up time" on the road. Also - make sure you diligently record/maintian your documents as needed. Other than that - it's alot of fun and great feeling of accomplishment. Enjoy!!
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I hate the over and over again single lane construction zones, even if there is no active construction they can be backed up. I did a ss2000 about a month ago, the endless construction across Oh, In, and Il was painful, just felt like I wasn't getting anywhere. I knew it was going to be a long night from the lost time. Did 1187 the 1st day and 965 the 2nd. I just plan an approx night stop so I know I am within striking distance for the 2nd day and do whatever it takes to get there. Then base my starting time the 2nd day on a good cushion for the remaining miles. With the LT I find I have a daily average of about 60-62 mph. In a couple weeks I'm combining a Great Lakes 1000 with the bb gold 1500. Where you live one of the Great Lakes rides would be a good choice.


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I hate the over and over again single lane construction zones, even if there is no active construction they can be backed up. I did a ss2000 about a month ago, the endless construction across Oh, In, and Il was painful, just felt like I wasn't getting anywhere. I knew it was going to be a long night from the lost time. Did 1187 the 1st day and 965 the 2nd. I just plan an approx night stop so I know I am within striking distance for the 2nd day and do whatever it takes to get there. Then base my starting time the 2nd day on a good cushion for the remaining miles. With the LT I find I have a daily average of about 60-62 mph. In a couple weeks I'm combining a Great Lakes 1000 with the bb gold 1500. Where you live one of the Great Lakes rides would be a good choice.

Good advice, I hadn't thought about a short motel stop the get some rest.

I will do the Great Lakes ride someday but for my first one I wanted to stick to the Freeways.

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Re: Ironbutt ride advice

I just did my first SS 1000 and your plan sounds good overall. I know some people who do the 1500 time it to arrive home after the 1000 SS mles, sleep and then knock off the last 500.

Additional tips that really helped me on the SS:
-use google latitude so others can track your progress and to provide an extra record of your route.
-constantly drink water and stay hydrated.
-take tylenol or aleve before you leave and every 6 hours
-a book on tape helped stay alert in the last hours of the ride
-LD underwear and first gear mesh pants took the sore out of the saddle. 2 wallyworld auto gelpads were helpful too.
-avoid rain as it will slow you down not to mention being miserable.


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I'd stay away from Labor Day weekend. There can be a lot of traffic on Saturday and Monday is always crazy. I think your route is pretty sound. I'd even look at doing it during the week as long as you stayed away from the big cities at the typical rush hours. Even then you don't lose that much time. During the week businesses are open. Not so much during the weekend. As has been said above, documentation is the big thing. And when you're ready for the Great Lakes Gold, let me know. I can help with the planning on that. Whatever you decide, GOOD LUCK AND HAVE FUN.

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You're relatively construction-free in Indiana from MI line to Indy on 69 and on 65 at least to Louisville. There's an overhead bridge they're redoing just before you hit Indy (around exit5 on 69) that's still got both lanes open, but it backs up morning and evening pretty good (who am I kidding, I-69 & 465 interchange is backed up ALL the time!). You should be in good shape, at least through Hoosierville. Good Luck!

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-constantly drink water and stay hydrated.
-take tylenol or aleve before you leave and every 6 hours
Good knowledge! I've done 2 - SS1000, and an "honorary" BBG ($&*%&@!! tire.... turned out to be a BunBurner, but tires are part of the challenge ).

I took Advil at the beginning, and about every 5-6 hours on the BB, and butt never burned.

Used a hydration water backpack, so I could sip water every few minutes (rather than guzzle every once in a while). Kept me hydrated, and minimized pee stops.

Kept bananas and Fig Newtons in the tank bag, along with Jerky. Never had to stop to eat.

IF YOU GET SLEEPY stop at a highway rest stop, and simply stretch out on a picnic table for a short nap - works wonders (and on a SS1000 you should have time). Don't try to ride while sleepy.

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I would take it easy on the fig newtons! Not quite as good as prunes but darn near!! Jerky is good! Lots of compact energy and tasty to boot.

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Good knowledge! I've done 2 - SS1000, and an "honorary" BBG ($&*%&@!! tire.... turned out to be a BunBurner, but tires are part of the challenge ).

I took Advil at the beginning, and about every 5-6 hours on the BB, and butt never burned.

Used a hydration water backpack, so I could sip water every few minutes (rather than guzzle every once in a while). Kept me hydrated, and minimized pee stops.

Kept bananas and Fig Newtons in the tank bag, along with Jerky. Never had to stop to eat.

IF YOU GET SLEEPY stop at a highway rest stop, and simply stretch out on a picnic table for a short nap - works wonders (and on a SS1000 you should have time). Don't try to ride while sleepy.

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Good knowledge! I've done 2 - SS1000, and an "honorary" BBG ($&*%&@!! tire.... turned out to be a BunBurner, but tires are part of the challenge ).

I took Advil at the beginning, and about every 5-6 hours on the BB, and butt never burned.

Used a hydration water backpack, so I could sip water every few minutes (rather than guzzle every once in a while). Kept me hydrated, and minimized pee stops.

Kept bananas and Fig Newtons in the tank bag, along with Jerky. Never had to stop to eat.

IF YOU GET SLEEPY stop at a highway rest stop, and simply stretch out on a picnic table for a short nap - works wonders (and on a SS1000 you should have time). Don't try to ride while sleepy.
+1 Start well rested, know your tolerance. The pain reliever helps with fatigue believe it or not. For long distance rides, I ride about 1/2 tank of gas, get off, walk, drink, pee, eat, whatever. Ride until I need fuel, get off, fill up, walk, drink, pee, eat, whatever. Limit stops other than meals to 10 min. Get someplace cool if it's hot. That's 7 breaks every 1k miles, 5 at 10 min, 2 (meals) at 1/2 hour for total @ 2 hours stopped every 1k. That's about 18 hours for an SS1000. If you notice you're starting to fixate or feel "drained," get off the road and rest.

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I find Sunday (starting at about 2:00 am, so you do dark while you're fresh) a good low traffic day to ride LD, especially on Interstates thru cities.
Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate............................
Don't forget to get gas or mints or ?? every time you change roads to help document your route.........................
A small tupperware container with a slot cut in the top is a safe way to keep receipts.....
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Again, thanks for all the great advice. I wouldn't have taken the painkillers but now I will. I think I might do this ride starting Saturday of Labor Day weekend.

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I did my Iron Butt ride several years ago, starting about 1 minute after my 70th birthday. I decided to ride it at night as the GoldWing has wonderful lights, temperature was not that bad on Feb 25th down here and much less traffic at night. Also I wanted to be sure that I never rode looking into the sun. We dressed warm and both of us were on Wings and it had good coverage against the wind.

So we left Valdosta, GA and rode I-75 south until we hit I-10 to Jacksonville, FL, then we turned North on I-95 and rode through some really heavy fog for a couple of hours. Stayed on I-95 out to a little west of Florence, SC where we hit I-20 west. After an hour or so going west on I-20 the sun was coming up on our backs and we highballed it through Atlanta where we took I-85 south west and rode that through the mid-afternoon on to Montgomery, AL. There we got off the interstates and took Hwy 231 into Dothan, AL where we loaded up on several dozen raw oysters at Hunts Oyster Bar. Then on to Hwy 84 which is mostly 4 lane, back into Georgia and to Valdosta, arriving there at about 6:30 pm and the Garmin GPS said we'd done 1,162 miles in 18½ hours.

I felt really good and thought, like lots I imagine, that I'd sleep for a few hours and then hit the road and get in the other 400 miles to make it a 1,500. But when my butt hit the sack I was gone for a day. But we had fun and it was nice to say I did the 1,162 on my birthday.

Note - my best friend is a doctor. Have ridden with him for thousands of miles. He says that a Tylenol and an Excedrin taken together will give you about the same boost as one of those 'energy' drinks. I chose the two pills. Boosted me up and took care of the pain from my degenerative disk in the back. The Utopia back rest helped loads too. Take two pair of sun glasses as you might leave one up on top of a gas pump Snicker bars quench the hunger and boost you also. Drink plenty of water. Pee at each stop, especially in winter time. A full bladder makes you colder. Remember to get a receipt at every stop and at every road change as that has the date and time on it.

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Well, I did it!!!

I just got home, 1605 miles in 33 hrs. I put in 1000 miles in about 16 hours so I should qualify for the SS1000 and the BB1500.

Thank you again for the advice it really helped me! The camelback for water and motrin every 5-6 hours helped. I had temps over 100 deg for about 5hrs. I drank lots of water and think I only peed once in that 16hrs. About 2 hrs into the ride the hose for the camelback blew around into my seat. (I had it tied down on the passenger seat) I sat on the hose and drained a bunch of water into the saddle soaking my left butt cheek!!. It didn't take long to dry out because of the heat!

I took the route that I originally posted and was on track for the BB gold (1500 miles in less that 24hrs) but I hit rain about 40 miles west of Knoxville and thunderstorms on I75 north of Knoxville. That really slowed me down. I started getting tired around midnight and didn't think it safe to ride in the rain while tired so I got a room for a few hours to rest up.

That heat frankly was miserable, I don't know how you guys in those hot southern states ride all summer.

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Congrats, David!

Smart move to stop and get the rest when you needed it. Your body will tell you what it needs, if you only listen.

An SS1000 and a BB1500 is a great accomplishment that you can be proud of.

And yes, a BBG 1500/24 is much harder. There's a reason that's listed as an "extreme" ride, and not recommended for your first time. There is simply no time to spare, and a lot of things that can easily slow you down.

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Congratulations David! Glad it all worked out so well and you are safely home.

16 hrs between pees might be a little long. Every 4-6 hrs would probably mean you are getting enough water. Urine color is also a good indicator of adequate hydration. Coors Light color is good (the beer sucks IMO), very much darker is not so good. If you get to Guinness color go to the nearest emergency room!

We actually once had a doctor specify the color of urine we were targeting by using beer as the indicator. It was charted too! (permanent patient record)

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Good job David. You handled the ride with good judgement regarding the rain and safety.
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Well, I did it!!!

That heat frankly was miserable, I don't know how you guys in those hot southern states ride all summer.

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Nice ride.... I'm planning one for this Saturday morning. Just a 1,000 miles though...

You are right about the heat in the south. I just don't ride much in the summer. For me it is just too hot and miserable. The riding season for me is just starting and the rules for hydration should not be broker or bruised. If the pee is too dark, drink more water and an occasional sports drinks for the electrolytes, but not just sports drink. If you are not peeing enough, there is something wrong. At least every few hours for most people or you are not drinking enough.

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Well, I did it!!!

I just got home, 1605 miles in 33 hrs. I put in 1000 miles in about 16 hours so I should qualify for the SS1000 and the BB1500.
I passed a black LT headed south loaded for bear somewhere around Muncie, IN on I-69 saturday morning around 10 or 11am, and wondered if it was you...

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Congratulations on your Iron Butt ride. When the certificate comes get a nice frame and display it proudly!

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I passed a black LT headed south loaded for bear somewhere around Muncie, IN on I-69 saturday morning around 10 or 11am, and wondered if it was you...

Congratulations!!!



I'll bet it was me, I got gas just south of Fort Wayne in a little place called Markle at around 10am!!!

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I'll bet it was me, I got gas just south of Fort Wayne in a little place called Markle at around 10am!!!

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Yeah, this was about 20 miles south of Markle. Musta been you!

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