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I am struggling to find a solution to getting more "trunk" space that looks good on the LT.

I want to carry a decent first aid kit but with what I have in the trunk, my rain gear in one saddle bag and clothing in the other I am out of space.

My Gear is also VERY bulky (Motoport Kevlar Jacket and pants)

I NEVER ride two up and have a waterproof duffel for the back seat, but it would like a cleaner look.

Any suggestions?

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Re: additional carying space on the LT

Hiya.

Without wishing to sound facetious why would you want to carry a decent first aid kit. By their nature first aid kits are small, a few plasters, surgical wipes, a small bandage, melolin patch, micropore tape, and if your lucky a small pair of scissors or a blade. BMW do one that you could fit in your jacket pocket.

God forbid the day we have a fall or we meet someone who is involved in an accident because no first aid kit we bikers (or car or truck drivers)carry is going to be of any use whatsoever. They are only designed for minor usage. Major blood trauma rip your shirt off and pack the wound and wait for the professionals to arrive.

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A small first aid kit is sufficient.

A few bandages and some antiseptic, maybe some eye flush.. In most first aid classes to day, the trend is to stabilize and dial 911. Even CPR is now just chest compressions except in a drowning situation.

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I guess that I should add that I was a Paramedic and am a current member of the FL State Emergency Responders and Disaster Preparedness Network and a member of the United States Medical Reserve Corps.

I am certified as a Medical Reserve Corps command staff member and in Mass Prophylaxis Point of Dispensing (POD) IE dispensing the Anthrax vaccine.

In my man cave I am well stocked to setup a triage center, handle casualties, fatalities, etc.

So as you can see I take my first aid seriously...

With that said, I am not looking at a fully stocked Trauma center to carry around nor driving an ambulance anymore, but it would be nice to have the space to carry my more advanced supplies to stabalize a ridding partner or accident victim.

Make sense now?

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Re: additional carying space on the LT

If you take out the bottom liner of the top box you will get a couple more cubic inches.

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Hi, Paul. For an example of extra carrying space, see if you can find a pic by Ken Meese that shows his ghetto mod. It's a PVC tube that he affixed to the bottom of the right saddle bag - makes the LT look like it has twice-pipes. Used it for carrying smallish tools, etc. that aren't needed on all trips. I'll see if I can find it and post it if I do.

I'm thinking of doing something similar, butt using the ass-end of a buggered exhaust unit as the tool holder. Although most all my tools lay flat on the floor of the left saddlebag, there are times when more space is needed, since I rarely have the top box installed on ole Toad.

Edit: Here is one pic of Meese's tool carrier.

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Paramedic and am a current member of the FL State Emergency Responders and Disaster Preparedness Network and a member of the United States Medical Reserve Corps. certified as a Medical Reserve Corps command staff member and in Mass Prophylaxis Point of Dispensing (POD) IE dispensing the Anthrax vaccine.

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all in the name of being prepared.

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Re: additional carying space on the LT

You said that you ride solo, but do you have the trunk on? When I ride solo, no trunk, but one of Spuds racks. On that I carry a Cortek bag, which is large enough for the first-aid kit I carry. My kit, based on what I read here, is much larger than most, but I have plent of room for it.
That bag is attached using a bungie net, which also allows plenty of room to stuff more gear under it.
When we ride double, I have the RKA bag that attaches to the rack on top of the trunk. Being that high, it's only used for the lightest of gear - rain gear, wallets, purses camera and yes, first aid kit.
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Re: additional carying space on the LT

What I really like is this one from Jessee, the 35 liter "pizza box" but the price is WAY to high to stomach at this time.

This is the one that was in the BMW MOA mag that they had their first aid kit in.

Unfortunally the price like I said is way too high and I do not think it would look real nice.

I might just go back to carrying my Sealline wide mouth duffel on the pillon seat and loading the sadde bag with my kit. The only problem is I hate leaving the bag on the bike when I go into a meetings out in the packing lot, I am always afraid that some lookey loo might try to mess with my stuff.

On the Sealline bag, I put in a steel plate bottom with trim to help the bag hold its shape for road trips.
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My Gear is also VERY bulky (Motoport Kevlar Jacket and pants)

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
When I ride with multiple jackets (expecting severe temp changes) I take one set or armor. The jacket packs much better. I little longer to change equipment but more room in the side case.

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this looks fairly inexpensive Just couldnt help but share this pic
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not trying to hijack but how does that goldwing steer???

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Wow, that brings back some memories. That pic was taken at a BMW-only track day, where I got to run the LT to its limits. Actually fired up the old LT yesterday and went for a ride. It's still a great old bike.

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my rain gear in one saddle bag

My Gear is also VERY bulky (Motoport Kevlar Jacket and pants)
Do you mean that the Motoport stuff is only worn when it rains? Or do you wear it to ride, then tuck it away when you get to your destination? Surely it's the latter for a trained paramedic.

What I did on long, fully-loaded two-up trips was to get a cable and lock and a half cover. The helmets and jackets (and pants, if you want to remove them) get set onto the seats, and locked to the saddlebag handles by running the cable through the face area, arms, and legs, then through the handles. Then toss the half-cover over everything to cover it up and keep it dry.

So in a couple of minutes your stuff is locked and out of sight, and your saddlebags and trunk remain free for other items.

And if you move the trunk to the rearward position, there is enough room to tuck the half-cover behind the passenger seat, and maybe the cable, too.

That worked well for us while riding all over Europe, and touring back in the States.

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not trying to hijack but how does that goldwing steer???
Very poorly, I'd imagine.

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That Gold Wing looks like it would be in a constant wheelie when ever the slightest throttle was applied.

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You might want to look at RedOX bags, especially the 'Gator'. I keep my Digital SLR and 4 lens in it(including a large 70-200 zoom). Very small bag and tough. I own three of their bags and use them for bike travel as well as business travel. They come with a life time guarantee.. I am sure you could find one that would meet your needs.

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@meese, YES I am ATGATT 100%.

I ride for work, and even wear suits to customer's offices. I was encourged to do this by some co workers in Germany who do a simialar job as mine and the ride to customer's offices almost everyday. Except they ride around Munich or Frankfurt for work and I ride Orlando to Miami, or to Atlanta or to Jacksonville, etc. and stay overnight in hotels while there riding is around town 99% of the time.

The problem is after I check out of a hotel and I am loaded with a suit or two, three dress shirts and other sundry items, including a laptop and valise,along with the normal tools, first aid kit, etc, and ride over to the customer's office and need to leave everything except the laptop and the suit on my back.

I guess I will have to start locking up the Motoport gear to the bike and get a cable for the helmet....

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Have you tried a tank bag. I have one available through twisted throttle and am quite happy with it.

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Re: additional carying space on the LT

I have a LT and ride solo most of the time.

After a lot of playing around I have the following set up that I like :


1.) remove the rear top case and put a Ft Worth (or equal) rack on. The bike loses 35 lbs of top heavy weight and handles way better!

2.) use any number/type of waterproof soft bags -or put a hard bag on the rack. You will end up with more storage overall as well as a lot more packing flexibility.

3.) use a good tank bag---this forum is a great place to search for options

4.) I have a waterproof duffle bag strapped on my passenger seat that holds a lot of my stuff. I like the weight to be , as much as possible, between the axles!


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Karen and I strap our sleeping bags, inside waterproof bags, between the passenger arm rests (D. Muddiman) and the passenger hand holds.
I guess you could put anything that size there. (assuming you have arm rests)

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When I'm not going 2 up I mount a backpack on the passenger seat. It takes all my spill overs leaving the bags and trunk less " jam packed". Its alot cheaper than a backrest and it fills the space between you and the flat face of the trunk and speakers keeping air along a less restrictive line. I put a garbage bag inside for a liner and mostly fill it with the lighter stuff reserving the bags for the heavier things that I want as low on the bike as possible. Let the HD guys worry about how it looks. Ferdinand Beemer said "Form follows function"
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IMHO... the TBags Backseater -->http://www.tbags.com/detail.aspx?ID=3&SelectedCat=3
is a neat way to go. I used it on many long (21) state trips on the Goldwing and now it fits perfectly on the back seat on the 99' LT. I have the fold down arm rest and also a back rest, and this bag will sit easily in that space behind me. I attach it with straps to the luggage rack and it sits there without any movement.

It's contains all the everyday things I need and in about a minute it's off the bike and in the motel. It has a self contained rain cover in the back pocket along with back pack straps in case you have to trek a little distance with it. Lots of pockets for small things and seems to be just the size for extended trips. With one saddle bag for tools, compressor and spares and the other for a light weight air jacket and liner and rain gear, this bag carries everything else and leaves the trunk to lock jacket and helmet when away from the bike.

I know it will be on the LT the 8th of June when my brother-in-law and I head out for a 30 day trip to Nova Scotia and PEI.

Just my opinion, yours might very and that's all right too.

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[QUOTE=pauleknight]@meese, YES I am ATGATT 100%.

I ride for work, and even wear suits to customer's offices. I was encourged to do this by some co workers in Germany who do a simialar job as mine and the ride to customer's offices almost everyday. Except they ride around Munich or Frankfurt for work and I ride Orlando to Miami, or to Atlanta or to Jacksonville, etc. and stay overnight in hotels while there riding is around town 99% of the time.

The problem is after I check out of a hotel and I am loaded with a suit or two, three dress shirts and other sundry items, including a laptop and valise,along with the normal tools, first aid kit, etc, and ride over to the customer's office and need to leave everything except the laptop and the suit on my back.

I too ride mostly 1up.
And you mentioned your line of work. I got a MOLLE II desert camo back pack which you are more than familiar with. It is cheap, could definitely handle the weather and could handle a number of different attachment pouches. It doubles for a backrest on or off the bike or even a pillow. I keep a sleeping bag in the sleep chamber and all my other stuff goes in the top. It should easily replace a duffle bag. There is also a large front pocket and the top flap is fully lined with see through plastic for maps or important papers.
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Sounds like you need the BMR flatbed for the back seat of the LT. I have used one for a few years and when you need to carry lots of stuff and want to keep it tied down and organized this is great with it's tie down points. For a smaller kit I would suggest move the trunk to the rear position and then you have a nice place in between back of the seat and the trunk.

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www.bushtec.com (example in my avatar)

Ok, not ON the LT, but you really won't know its there.

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Here's an idea. I use it for a small air compressor:

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Here's an idea. I use it for a small air compressor:

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I think we have a winner!!!!

that looks GREAT, except for how is it mounted?

Now I got to figure out a way to make the case removable!

Anyone have any thoughts?

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Check the motoport site for a solution for securing the jacket, pants and helment when you need to leave the bike parked while you visit or sight see.

I got one that I can also secure the tank bag as well as the helmet, jacket and pants.

Used it on two occasions so far. Works good.
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Check the motoport site for a solution for securing the jacket, pants and helment when you need to leave the bike parked while you visit or sight see.

I got one that I can also secure the tank bag as well as the helmet, jacket and pants.

Used it on two occasions so far. Works good.
Can you be more specific? I looked at the motoport site under products/accessories and did not see anything. I searched for "lock" and found nothing. Can you describe what the product is named or provide a link to it?

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Can you be more specific? I looked at the motoport site under products/accessories and did not see anything. I searched for "lock" and found nothing. Can you describe what the product is named or provide a link to it?

It's the same thing as a bicycle lock.

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post #32 of 38 Old May 25th, 2011, 1:50 pm
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Re: additional carying space on the LT

http://www.rivcoproducts.com/product...cat=255&page=1

I have something similar to the link above attached to my Bushtec hitch.

I usually carry a cooler, but have carried a Sealine waterproof bag before.

You could easily lock down a Pelican case.

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Re: additional carying space on the LT

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that looks GREAT, except for how is it mounted?
I temporarily removed the license plate holder/sub-fender (2-T45 screws) and used it as a template to locate and drill 4 holes in the rear of the case. I also used the license plate as a template to locate and drill 4 additional holes in the front of the case.

I then bought 4 stainless button-head bolts, washers, and nylock nuts from Lowes. I mounted the case to the sub-fender (bolt head inside the fender) and tightened. I then marked (Sharpie) the amount of bolt that extended beyond the nut, removed the case from the sub-fender, trimmed and ground the bolts, and remounted the case to the sub-fender. Clear silicone was used to seal the holes.

I used a similar process to mount the license plate to the front of the case, and then remounted the sub-fender to the bike.
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Mine is not removable, but if you're using it for a first aid kit, I'm envisioning the kit inside a nylon case (or similar) that would then be stored inside the Pelican. I suppose you might also use wing nuts to mount it, but I'd think that would be difficult/slow in a situation where you'd need a first aid kit.


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I temporarily removed the license plate holder/sub-fender (2-T45 screws) and used it as a template to locate and drill 4 holes in the rear of the case. I also used the license plate as a template to locate and drill 4 additional holes in the front of the case.

I then bought 4 stainless button-head bolts, washers, and nylock nuts from Lowes. I mounted the case to the sub-fender (bolt head inside the fender) and tightened. I then marked (Sharpie) the amount of bolt that extended beyond the nut, removed the case from the sub-fender, trimmed and ground the bolts, and remounted the case to the sub-fender. Clear silicone was used to seal the holes.

I used a similar process to mount the license plate to the front of the case, and then remounted the sub-fender to the bike.
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Mine is not removable, but if you're using it for a first aid kit, I'm envisioning the kit inside a nylon case (or similar) that would then be stored inside the Pelican. I suppose you might also use wing nuts to mount it, but I'd think that would be difficult/slow in a situation where you'd need a first aid kit.

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It's the same thing as a bicycle lock.
Got one of those already. I thought it was something really clever. :-(

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Re: additional carying space on the LT

I've been looking for an option to mount and release my "Pelican case", there are a few options out there but most are to costly for my budget so..

I modified the original rack, and add an AL rack with a couple of pins at the front to hold the case, then a bracket that I can pass a lock through at the back to keep it there. I'm luck to have scrap AL at work and access to a welder. This is my mock up that just went 2400mile from FL keys to MN. The second day I forgot to gently open the top case and the weight of my camera (22lbs) popped the hold open strap off. But once I fix that, I will add another strap to the other side, then it will balance nicely and shouldn't cause any issues.

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Re: additional carying space on the LT

Here's an easy and (almost) free way to open up some readily accessible space, certainly enough for a well sorted out first aid kit behind the passenger seat. I carry two full rain suits and booties there...

Ghetto mod #694 - even MORE passenger room!


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Re: additional carying space on the LT

RKA makes a bag with a mounting pad that is really ok to sit on! Mount the pad to the back seat (velcro straps around the seat). Mount their bag to the pad with straps. Very sturdy, waterproof (with included cover).

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