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post #1 of 7 Old Apr 18th, 2011, 5:36 pm Thread Starter
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Request for ideas: LT won't turn over

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I've been busy renovating the house and the bike has been sitting for a while awaiting a 24 K service. When I try to start it, I hear a slight buzzing or clicking sound that one would normally associate with a dirty battery connection on the positive terminal, a bad solenoid, or defective starter or alternator. The battery is fully charged and the bike will start with a jump.

Any ideas? Thanks for help. tom

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post #2 of 7 Old Apr 18th, 2011, 5:42 pm
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Re: Request for ideas: LT won't turn over

If it starts with a jump, I would still suspect the battery. Have you put a volt meter across the terminals of the battery to determine what voltage the battery is putting out?

Check here for some good info on batteries and maintenance:
http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/maintenance/battery.htm

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Re: Request for ideas: LT won't turn over

Hi, Tom --

Do you know whether this bike has the retrofit starter relay installed? If not, do NOT try to start the bike again on the original relay -- a low battery can result in the starter relay contacts to weld themselves together. When you drop a new battery in, the starter will immediately start to turn, and continue turning until you can get the battery disconnected again. Not fun.

I would suggest removing the battery from the bike and measuring the voltage *while a load is applied to the battery.* A bad battery can show 12V+ on a voltmeter, but not be able to deliver any significant amount of current. Hook up a voltmeter and then observe how the voltage drops under load (a simple head light bulb connected across the battery terminals should be sufficient). I expect you'll find that the voltage will instantly drop to the <10V level -- at which point the battery may be given its last rites.

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Re: Request for ideas: LT won't turn over

Hey Mark:

It's been tooo long. I have no idea if I have this starter config. Thanks for the tip.
BTW, how do I know if I have this type?

I do have a new battery for it. I'll try that first.

All the best, tom

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Coastal Georgia
IBA # 30573

2000 K1200 LTC Canyon Red with Unigo
2005 R1200 RT Red

2002 CCR - Santa Fe, NM (Radisson Santa Fe)
2003 CCR - Gatlinburg, TN (Park Vista Resort)
2004 CCR - Breckenridge, CO (Beaver Run Resort)
2005 CCR - Jackson Hole, WY (Grand Teton National Park)
2006 CCR - Braselton, GA (Chateau Elan and Winery)
2009 CCR - Rapid City, SD (Ramkota Hotel)

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Ray:

Thanks for your suggestion. Your solution hits me akin to a slap upside the forehead. Just last week, I went through a problem-solution drill with my lawn tractor. I thought the solenoid was bad and replaced it only to learn a lesson I had learned so long ago (after tracing down the wiring with a continuity tester): that the connection between the positive cable on the battery and the terminal was dirty! It's an embarrassing but refreshing reminder. Best, tt

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Coastal Georgia
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2000 K1200 LTC Canyon Red with Unigo
2005 R1200 RT Red

2002 CCR - Santa Fe, NM (Radisson Santa Fe)
2003 CCR - Gatlinburg, TN (Park Vista Resort)
2004 CCR - Breckenridge, CO (Beaver Run Resort)
2005 CCR - Jackson Hole, WY (Grand Teton National Park)
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Re: Request for ideas: LT won't turn over

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BTW, how do I know if I have this type?
No way to know externally. If it had been installed during your ownership you'd know -- the installation of the starter retrofit kit was a pita because it could not be buried much deeper in the bike -- in the upper half of the large electrical box on the right side of the frame backbone: all the front tupperware, radio, seat frame and fuel tank have to come off just to get to the box to start the retrofit.

Thanks for the PM -- I'll reply when I get a non-hectic moment.

Best,
Mark

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Re: Request for ideas: LT won't turn over---SOLVED!

Mark:

The new battery fixed the problem. The old one was at 11.01 amps off the bike. "Shows to to go us" over and over again --- German fault tolerance never fails to amaze me.

I took the bike out for a 10 mile run for the first time in a year tonight. 75 degree weather. What a treat.

Now, the reverse gear setup is not working. Got to figure that out. I'll run it once more in the morning and then put it on the lift for the 24K service.

Best, tom

Tom Talleur
Coastal Georgia
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2000 K1200 LTC Canyon Red with Unigo
2005 R1200 RT Red

2002 CCR - Santa Fe, NM (Radisson Santa Fe)
2003 CCR - Gatlinburg, TN (Park Vista Resort)
2004 CCR - Breckenridge, CO (Beaver Run Resort)
2005 CCR - Jackson Hole, WY (Grand Teton National Park)
2006 CCR - Braselton, GA (Chateau Elan and Winery)
2009 CCR - Rapid City, SD (Ramkota Hotel)
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