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post #1 of 9 Old Apr 14th, 2011, 7:57 am Thread Starter
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I think the dealer is B S'isng me

passed by the dealer to pick up a fairing screw clip. I mention to the tech that I flushed the brakes with a speed bleeder. according to him the job I did was not good, he said to properly flush the brakes you need a special equipment that they have that flushed a bigger resourveour tank on the left side of the bike, and it needed special fluid and the proper preasure to asure a correct brake fluid flush. I think this is bull but any comment is greatly appreciated
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BS!!!!! Flushed my brakes on an 06 twice with speed bleeders, they are permanently installed on my ride

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For starters, try playing the cards a little closer to your vest. Second, and I agree with 'B.S.', I'd have to say the dealer is trying a little elitist, Euro-trash crap on you. I'd still use 'em, but I think I'd remember this encounter. $00.02.....................j



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passed by the dealer to pick up a fairing screw clip. I mention to the tech that I flushed the brakes with a speed bleeder. according to him the job I did was not good, he said to properly flush the brakes you need a special equipment that they have that flushed a bigger resourveour tank on the left side of the bike, and it needed special fluid and the proper preasure to asure a correct brake fluid flush. I think this is bull but any comment is greatly appreciated
I didn't go back thru your posts to see what year model your bike is, butt I wonder if the dealer tech is talking about the ABS system? Just a thought.
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If in fact your bike is an '02 or later he is at least being partly truthful with you. Bleeding at the calipers in these systems does not reach the entire system. If you wish to know more you can look in the technical/HOW posts by Mark Neblett for a thorough discussion of this.

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You do not need any special "stuff" to flush the brake system on ANY year LT. The factory manual does not require it. What the factory manual does require is a computer test of the system pressure rise times to check to make sure the system is still performing coreectly and that you did not introduce any air into the system AFTER you complete the flush.

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passed by the dealer to pick up a fairing screw clip. I mention to the tech that I flushed the brakes with a speed bleeder. according to him the job I did was not good, he said to properly flush the brakes you need a special equipment that they have that flushed a bigger resourveour tank on the left side of the bike, and it needed special fluid and the proper preasure to asure a correct brake fluid flush. I think this is bull but any comment is greatly appreciated
YAH Yah, he is correct. Und you need zee special BMW brake fluid too or you vill die a gruesome death!

Although there is modicum of truth to what he told you - since air can become permanently entrained in the fluid and visually undetectable even after thorough bleeding - I wouldn't sweat it unless you are planning on road racing your LT.

Go out and do a couple of high speed panic stops in a deserted parking lot. You can feel it if it isn't right... if it isn't, let it sit a couple of days and bleed it again.

This stuff ain't rocket science. Sure, using BMW's system assures you that when you leave the shop you won't have any issues - except for a much lighter wallet.


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what about a vacuum bleeder? Those can be picked up cheaply at places like Harbour Freight. Have used them on cars and other bikes and they worked well. I pulled all fluid out of the reservoir refilled and then thoroughly bleed the brakes.
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what about a vacuum bleeder? Those can be picked up cheaply at places like Harbour Freight. Have used them on cars and other bikes and they worked well. I pulled all fluid out of the reservoir refilled and then thoroughly bleed the brakes.
Garbage - nothing like using compressed air (and water unless the relative humidity is 0 percent) to pump brake fluid through a system. That's EXACTLY what you are trying to avoid.

Everyone bitches when their insanely expensive ABS servos fail - well, nothing like shooting yourself in the foot by going cheap.

Speed bleeders are NOT as good as the BMW system (since they store the brake fluid under a constant vacuum and do not use pressurized air to force it through the system) but they work well enough.


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