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post #1 of 62 Old Feb 5th, 2011, 8:50 am Thread Starter
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Radar Detector Advise

I'm back at it again--Trying to buy the right Radar Detector for my new BMW--The best advise always comes from the people that know and use the Detector--That is the PRO TOURING BMW RIDER (that is YOU)----What do you thing I should spend my money on? I don't really care what it costs--I want the best, just like my BMW. Thanks ktap191

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Lest I mislead you, I've owned and ridden two BMWs (an LT and a GT), but currently ride a 2010 Kaw Concours14. So if that excludes me ... so be it. But I guarantee you, few people on this website will argue that fact that I ride at a very "spirited pace" most of the time.

Two words: Valentine One. That little gem has saved my butt more times than I can count. I toured the US for 20 days, over 11K miles, and it saved me in EVERY State. Pricey, but worth every penny. I don't ride a bike, or drive a cage without it with me. Period.

Note: The only thing it won't detect are aircraft. Sneaky suckers! Don't ask me how I know.

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Sorry--I guess I should have said one of the PROS--lots of great bikes--my honda included. Thanks for responding. I have looked at the Val. How does it work with the helmet? Is it hard to detect a warning?
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What Joe said.

When I was looking for a good radar detector, I looked around the parking lots of various bike gatherings and long distance endurance rallies. You know, the types of riders that do 30-50K miles a year.

Pretty much every bike had a V1.

After running mine for well over 200K miles, I can see why. In fact, the only time it comes off the bike is if I'm taking a long car trip. Afterwards, it goes right back on the bike.

Pros are great long-range radar detection, plus a bogey counter and front/rear arrows so you know where the threat is coming from. That feature can be very useful, and no one else offers it.

Cons are false alerts in congested areas, but you can always mute it then (and you should be doing the speed limit in town anyway) and it's not waterproof. Mine lives under a cover and all is fine.

Also it's pricey, but it flat works, and it has paid for itself many, many times.

Mine is plugged into my com system so I get warnings through my helmet speakers. You can also get external beepers and helmet-mounted LEDs to help with those instant warnings.

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Note: The only thing it won't detect are aircraft. Sneaky suckers! Don't ask me how I know.
I know a guy who fitted an aircraft proximity detector on his bike for just that reason . . .

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Lest I mislead you, I've owned and ridden two BMWs (an LT and a GT), but currently ride a 2010 Kaw Concours14. So if that excludes me ... so be it. But I guarantee you, few people on this website will argue that fact that I ride at a very "spirited pace" most of the time.

Two words: Valentine One. That little gem has saved my butt more times than I can count. I toured the US for 20 days, over 11K miles, and it saved me in EVERY State. Pricey, but worth every penny. I don't ride a bike, or drive a cage without it with me. Period.

Note: The only thing it won't detect are aircraft. Sneaky suckers! Don't ask me how I know.

+100 on the V1

Had mine for over 15 years now and it is still the best available

I have gotten 3 tickets in the last 10 years, twice when I was without the radar on the car/bike and once when I crested a hill in Palm Beach County FL and the cop had just let the previous catch go and picked up the GUN at point blank and zapped me!

Nothing I could have done and nothing that a diff radar detector would have done for me.

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That makes it unanimous, Luv my Valentine


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Another vote for the V1.

It stayed on my LT permanently, until I totaled it. (110,000 miles)
Now it is in my truck, moved to the car for long trips. Never had a ticket since purchasing it in 2001.

It is not cheap, but worth it. I would actually like to get another one, so both the car and truck would be permanently equipped.

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I own 3 Escort Passports (1 on the LT and the other 2 in my cars) and my experience is pretty similar to the ones above, except that my Passports do not have the front/rear arrow.
Saved my bacon many a time, including in town on Ventura Blvd during a lunch ride...
I would not drive without a radar detector of any kind, especially now that both the state of California and the city of Los Angeles are broke EVERY mean to make a buck is now in effect (for your safety... of course!).

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The only thing better than a V1 is riding with a federal judge. What makes it so good is it's sensitivity in that it picks up radar farther in advance than others I have experience with and the amount of information it provides, information indicating where the alerts are coming from.

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If purchasing the V1 do you need to get the remote audio adapter (20200) or is there another way to wire directly into helmut or speakers?
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If purchasing the V1 do you need to get the remote audio adapter (20200) or is there another way to wire directly into helmut or speakers?
Believe we had a link here at one time that outlined the wiring on how to make it work with the comm system.

I looked for it without success.

Anyone help out with the link?

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I have a Passport 8500 that has been impeccable. What I like about it is very few if any false alerts. If that suck beeps, you better be slowing down & looking. I also have a visual alert l-e-d plugged into the speaker jack for easier visuals. I don't have helmet speakers...yet.

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I also have the Passport 8500 I also have the Legal Speeding LED set up. Works great. You don,t worry about not hearing or trying to see the lights on the radar detecter. I mounted the light right under the map light and is very bright. check out the LEGAL SPEEDING website.
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I love my passport 9500 also. It's not cheap either but effective. Use it with the Marc Parnes visual alert which works really well.
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If purchasing the V1 do you need to get the remote audio adapter (20200) or is there another way to wire directly into helmut or speakers?
That's what I use to send the signal to my intercom. Also, I have the remote audio adapter mounted right next to my left thumb so I can easily mute or adjust the V1 without even looking.

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Has anyone used a TPX sold by Adaptive Technologies? It's waterproof and made specifically for motorcycles. I'd be very interested in hearing anyone has some experience with this unit. They also sell a laser jammer. I thought jammers are illegal. Thanks.
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Has anyone used a TPX sold by Adaptive Technologies? It's waterproof and made specifically for motorcycles. I'd be very interested in hearing anyone has some experience with this unit. They also sell a laser jammer. I thought jammers are illegal. Thanks.
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I've had the TPX for a year now and have mounts on both bikes to switch back and forth. I have no complaints. Good lighting, big buttons, and the visual alert light is also very nice. I have always uesd Escort products in my cars and this unit seems just as good.......no tickets using the TPX so far. JINX.....

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I also have one of these units which I use on two Bikes as well as my truck, and it seems to save me on a regular basis. If I had to complain about anything it might be the fact that it does not give you any indication of where the threat is. But, as far as I know, the V1 is the only one that does that, and it is way more than this one was!

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Has anyone used a TPX sold by Adaptive Technologies? It's waterproof and made specifically for motorcycles. I'd be very interested in hearing anyone has some experience with this unit. They also sell a laser jammer. I thought jammers are illegal. Thanks.
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Another vote for the Valentine One. Used it in multiple cars and my scoot, it gives lots of warning and points to where the warning is coming from. You can't go wrong with one of these.
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. I thought jammers are illegal. Thanks.
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This varies from state to state. It is illegal in California, so I won't get one since that is where I do most of my riding, but you may be be in luck if you state did not ban them.
Paul Mitchell posted this several weeks ago and it is a good reference.

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Best advice: Ride the speed limit, take your chances once in a while and pay the fine when you get caught.
Since money is no object you should be able to beat the rap in court by hiring a high priced mouth piece.

Now watch what happens! I'll pass a semi on a 2 lane road doing 100 mph plus and get busted!

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This varies from state to state. It is illegal in California, so I won't get one since that is where I do most of my riding, but you may be be in luck if you state did not ban them.
Paul Mitchell posted this several weeks ago and it is a good reference.
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I have a V1 and I agree with all the above. Great device. Also since the design is basically always the same, you can check on their web site for updates. If your should ever require an update, you just sent it in and for a flat fee they give you the latest and greatest.

As for the audio adaptor, I have it mounted directly on top of the V1 with a audio cord through the handlebar covers all the way back to the Autocom unit under the rear seat. I can hear my Ipod, GPS and radar detector and talk on the phone all though the helmet.

When I go on a long trip in the car, I toss it on the dash and plug it in the lighter adaptor. Saved my butt several times.
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Lane splitting. We win.

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Lane splitting. We win.
I live on I-10 where towns are 40 miles or more miles apart and all you have is lane splitting? Even on our 2-lane country roads the speed limit is 70 and 80 on I-10. And if I dont want to I dont have to wear a helmet. A kid cant ride a tricycle in cali without a helmet.
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WHATS NOT ILLEGAL IN CALIFORNIA??????
Lane splitting, gay marriage, medicinal marijuana, and a few other things I won't mention.
You moving in yet?
Snow storm, on the other hand, are illegal so we must obey and ride in 70-80 degree weather while the rest of the country is under snow. Poor us!
Also virtually all our roads are toll free... I just thought I'd throw that in for good measure!

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all you have is lane splitting?
Yeah, you're right, there's nothing good out here anyway. Besides, we're all full up, so you're better of staying where you are.

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Yeah, you're right, there's nothing good out here anyway. Besides, we're all full up, so you're better of staying where you are.
Ok heres where Texas goes for the win. NO state income tax.
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Ok heres where Texas goes for the win. NO state income tax.
But extremely high property taxes!!! Oh yeah, toll roads that you take every day to go to/from work... but heck... no income tax! Did you really think anyone would get away with not paying taxes one way or another??? But we still get to split lanes!

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But we still get to split lanes!
And we don't have to live in Texas.

I've been down here in Dallas since October, and I still have to consciously stop myself filtering to the front of the lights.

And yes, I also have to avoid the local toll road on my way to work. Then again, it is the Bush tollway, so I'd probably avoid it anyway . . .

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You guys KILL me! You've got the kahoonahs to argue over which State is better ... and I'm stuck here in this frozen hell hole!

Oh ... and Dallas AIN'T in Texas!!! That's just southern Oklahoma!

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You've got the kahoonahs to argue over which State is better ...
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Not so much which state is better... more like which state is least worse!

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But extremely high property taxes!!! Oh yeah, toll roads that you take every day to go to/from work... but heck... no income tax! Did you really think anyone would get away with not paying taxes one way or another??? But we still get to split lanes!
Im 42 and have lived in Texas all my life and have NEVER driven on a toll road. Like I said earlier, the next town South of me is 90 miles. Next town East is 50 miles. Next town West is 40 and North 20 miles. Yall been hanging out in the wrong part of Texas. And if Cali is so great why is it I see U-Haul trucks weekly heading East either hauling or towing cars with Cali license plates?
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What about mounting positions on the LT?

I am most interested in riders from Virginia, or other commonwealth/states that outlaw detectors.

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What about mounting positions on the LT?

I am most interested in riders from Virginia, or other commonwealth/states that outlaw detectors.

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I like the Valetine and spent a couple of hours reading different forums last night. Doesnt seem possible to hide it and it still be effective. The maker recomends that it be mounted high as possible on the windshield. Dont think I would want to advertise it like that.
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Y'all have any pictures of how to best mount the V1 or other RD? Do you mount it on a RAM mount on a handlebar so you can get coverage of any shots from the rear with radar or laser?
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BTW....its too bad this isn't waterproof.....it'd save tons of space on the bike! However....$650 isa little pricy for something like this and it doesn't even have satellite radio or an MP3 player!


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And if Cali is so great why is it I see U-Haul trucks weekly heading East either hauling or towing cars with Cali license plates?
Because the propaganda is working . . .

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I don't hide mine. It sits on a mount above the right handlebar where it gets a great view front and rear and where I can see it easily. It's in a waterproof box so it lives up there all the time, in all weather. I can pop it out of the cover if I have to cross Virginia or eastern Canada, but I haven't had to remove it in either of those places yet. The customs agents and LEOs in Canada didn't care, and VA is small enough that you just kinda pass right on through it . . .


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I don't hide mine. It sits on a mount above the right handlebar where it gets a great view front and rear and where I can see it easily. It's in a waterproof box so it lives up there all the time, in all weather.
Ken, I have that same box, but I haven't installed it yet. Is your detector wired to shut off with the key? The PO of my bike has the power coming from a dual switch box that he mounted in the right side case. Has two on/off switches in it. One for his laptop. Power is on when I shut off the key. So, its either open the case & flip the switch, or just shut the power off on the detector, which is why I haven't mounted the box yet. I guess I just need to rewire it. Also, do you open the box to change brightness, or just run it on the dark mode to keep from opening the box. I use the visual alert adapter anyway, so I'll have to modify the box a little anyway. TIA

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Earlier someone mentioned radar jamming and laser jamming, here is the scoop on those issues.

1. any radar jammer is illeagal in all states (FCC regulations)

2. Laser jammers are only illegal in states that passed specific laws banning them. In my experience laser detectors are virtually worthless any way, one sees the cop using it before the detector goes off (lasers are line of sight and bikes are hard to hit, the signal does not scatter like radar so it is hard to detect anyway.

3. Location for radar detector I put mine in my tank bag, blocks off the laser but as I said before the laser isn't detectable in the real world anyway......Radar signals go through everything but metal so having it up high inside the bag works very well and it saves an expensive mount for the radar detector and the cops do not know you have a detector. JMO
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Anyone have any pictures of how they mounted their V1 on their LT? BMR Shelf?

Does the V1 have a waterproof case available?

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WHATS NOT ILLEGAL IN CALIFORNIA??????

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Im 42 and have lived in Texas all my life and have NEVER driven on a toll road. Like I said earlier, the next town South of me is 90 miles. Next town East is 50 miles. Next town West is 40 and North 20 miles. Yall been hanging out in the wrong part of Texas. And if Cali is so great why is it I see U-Haul trucks weekly heading East either hauling or towing cars with Cali license plates?

Umm I get ya dig, but y'all do have the best cavern...

Now I gotta say your in the far east side of no where.. Only reason there isn't a toll road there is the trucks haven't made it that far west yet!

Oh I forgot.. I have the passport.. And last time I didn't get the ticket, was because I didn't have the d etector out of the case...else he woulda put the bad mojo on me..
He even said if I had a detector, he woulda cited me.. And I can't quite beat instant on at 1.75 times the speed limit

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$49 cobra from Walmart...works well. I just happen to do the speed limit 99% of the time but like to know where help may be should I need it.
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"I just happen to do the speed limit 99% of the time but like to know where help may be should I need it."

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I don't hide mine. It sits on a mount above the right handlebar where it gets a great view front and rear and where I can see it easily. It's in a waterproof box so it lives up there all the time, in all weather. I can pop it out of the cover if I have to cross Virginia or eastern Canada, but I haven't had to remove it in either of those places yet. The customs agents and LEOs in Canada didn't care, and VA is small enough that you just kinda pass right on through it . . .



Ken, could you please share the brand and supplier of that mounting hardware and box?

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Ken I want to know what you've got on that screen that caused such (*&^% eating grin

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My take on RADAR Detectors, is with today's Laser and "Instant on" feature on the RADAR Guns, one can't slow down the bike fast enough to beat the signal. Once the signal leaves the sending unit of the patrol car, and returns, they already got ya, even with the RADRAR detector warning you. By that time, it's too late.
This is why I don't buy one.

But then again, I could be wrong with today's technology.

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