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Gearbox oil change on sidestand ?

I own an LT with the hydraulic center stand and need to change the gearbox oil.

I have checked out relating articles to this, especially Mark Neblettīs excellent pictorial ( http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/articles...rticle&artid=4 ).

As I understand it, the center stand has to be loosened to be able to reach the drain plug, which brings me to my question, as I havenīt seen it mentioned in detail on the board.

What holds the bike up ?.

Or maybe I have misunderstood the instructions and the center stand still works in keeping the bike upright whilst it is "loose"

If not, can I just rely on the side stand (with the bike in gear) to keep the bike in a more or less vertical position or do I need to borrow a lift with all the bits and pieces to keep the bike steady ?.

Obviously, if I am told the side stand is sufficient, I would manhandle the bike to a vertical position to drain the oil.

Thanks for any info about this.
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Re: Gearbox oil change on sidestand ?

Removal of this muffler support bracket is enough, there is that little trick to get it loosened through this other support.


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Re: Gearbox oil change on sidestand ?

I have never had to remove the Center Stand on my '06 LT for this procedure. Just the exhaust bracket & then the drain plug is accessible/removable.

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I own an LT with the hydraulic center stand and need to change the gearbox oil.

I have checked out relating articles to this, especially Mark Neblettīs excellent pictorial ( http://www.bmwlt.com/forums/articles...rticle&artid=4 ).

As I understand it, the center stand has to be loosened to be able to reach the drain plug, which brings me to my question, as I havenīt seen it mentioned in detail on the board.

What holds the bike up ?.

Or maybe I have misunderstood the instructions and the center stand still works in keeping the bike upright whilst it is "loose"

If not, can I just rely on the side stand (with the bike in gear) to keep the bike in a more or less vertical position or do I need to borrow a lift with all the bits and pieces to keep the bike steady ?.

Obviously, if I am told the side stand is sufficient, I would manhandle the bike to a vertical position to drain the oil.

Thanks for any info about this.

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Removal of this muffler support bracket is enough, there is that little trick to get it loosened through this other support.
what he said, very easy, a bit messy make the modified quart drain bottle funnel pictured by Dave S.

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Re: Gearbox oil change on sidestand ?

Sorry if my how-to wasn't clear -- there is no need to release/remove the center stand, just the two 8 mm Allens holding that annoying in-the-way-of-the-drain plate to the bracket. The bike is perfectly stable on the center stand with these bolts removed.

Doing the job on the side stand would retain a large fraction of the tranny oil in the tranny, and the bilke would still need to be put back on the center stand after draining so that it would be level for re-fill -- the position required to get the proper oil level (up to the bottom of the fill plug threads).

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Re: Gearbox oil change on sidestand ?

Thankyou so much to everybody who answered, especially to Mark for the excellent pictorial.

I have just done the job. Far easier than expected and now I understand that the centre stand is still in place when doing the job. Only the hydraulic part has to be moved.

I also undid the two front allen bolts and slid the whole thing back as Mark suggests.

This week, apart from changing the gear oil, I have changed the motor oil and filter, fuel filter, air filter, spark plugs and cooling liquid, so I am off for a beer or two to celebrate.

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This week, apart from changing the gear oil, I have changed the motor oil and filter, fuel filter, air filter, spark plugs and cooling liquid, so I am off for a beer or two to celebrate.
I hate to potentially spoil a good brew moment, but what about the final drive oil??

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Re: Gearbox oil change on sidestand ?

OK, final drive oil changed.

Looked good as I had changed it the same time I last changed the engine oil. Even so, best to do everything at the same time.

The oil I used for the final drive and gearbox was this one:

http://castrolmoto.com/en/products/mtx_fully_synth.php
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Re: Gearbox oil change on sidestand ?

A tip I picked up from this forum a few years ago for any fluid change:

Make sure that the input opening, i.e., where you add the fluid can be easily opened before you drain anything.

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Too true.

Another good tip would be to buy a large disposable plastic syringe.

Makes emptying the coolant overflow bottle and filling up the gearbox and final drive so much easier.
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