Originally Posted by petevandyke
I posted in another Avon thread that I had spoken with an Avon tech who specifically advised me NOT to use their tires on the LT, that it was not approved for it even though it would "fit" it.
Sure, it's great that they are giving you guys replacement tires via warranty, and I think it's wonderful that they grip better when you're leaned over in curves, but cmon, is that risk worth it?
Of the people who are raving about how wonderful they are ("they are cheaper" and "they grip better" and "they last longer than ____") more than half of you have also posted over the last six months that you've had to return at least one because it split or cupped badly, or separated--and a number have posted that catastrophic failures have created dangerous situations that ruined trips and caused at least one crash.
Some of you guys sound like my teenager when she says "well my friend _____ does it and nothing bad ever happens to her, so I should be able to do it."
Is that little bit of extra performance and few more miles (which some have said they DON'T get) for a couple fewer dollars really worth riding on tires that you know aren't an approved tire for these motorcycles that could fail when you are pushing them to the limit--especially when you have a passenger onboard?
OK. i can't let this go by. there's too much opinion masquerading as fact and too many errors.
the avon rep you spoke with is only half right. the storms are approved fitment for the 99-04 LTs which came with factory radials. they are NOT appoved fitment for the 05 and outs where the front end geometry was changed to 'improve' low speed handling, and the factory did not fit OE radials.
this isn't subjective -- go check the avon web site in the UK where they have a fitment identified and this is what you will see. in the UK and other EU countries 'approved fitment' carries the force of law -- the tire/bike combo must be tested and approved by the cogizant government testing agencies.
net/net is that the Storms DO have the correct service ratings and are legally tested and approved fitments for LTs that came with factory radial tires.
every tire company has some degree of quality issues. look at the history on this board and you'll see bridgestone delaminations and blow outs, dunlop failures, and avons that exhibited squirrely wear and stress failures.
i had an avon front break a belt - avon replaced it. i've had a bridgestone break a belt - they told me to pound sand.
everyone makes their own determination as to what constitutes acceptable risk.
personally, i don't care about tread life on motorcycles. traction and handling is EVERYTHING. if i can ride my way out of an accident because i can turn or stop as quickly as my skills and equipment will permit, that is a great deal less risky than having the bike go down in the road or hit something because i didn't have enough traction or agility. i have done exactly that at least a half dozen times over the last 30 years and i wouldn't be here if it wasn't so.
for me, the avons are the only tires i will fit to my 2000 LT. they are a traction and handling edge that could save my life and could save my bike.
EVERY part on a motorcycle -- especially a 900 LB motorcycle that can go 120 mph -- can and will fail. check your equipment every time you ride. fix stuff if it breaks.
but my personal decision is to run the tire that gives my bikes the best traction and cornering. the storms are what make MY LT a keeper.