Originally Posted by flyinguy68
I'm a newbie to the BMW community and cycles. I've ridden small Honda crusiers for many years, and wanted to jump up to a large tour bike. I narrowed it down to the Gold Wing and the LT and the LT won.
Last fall I bought a 2003 LT with 28k miles on it. I took it in for the the 36k service and got a whopping bill but was able to live with it. Rode the bike cross country from PA to NM and back, and loved it.
So now I'm back. Took it in for the 42k service, and got a $3700 bill. Most notable replacement was a rear spring strut [email protected]
$729, a new drive shaft @ $691, various other odds and ends, and labor of course.
Now I'm a man of modest means, & not very mechanically inclined. If it goes beyond changing oil, count me out. So I'm wondering if I've gotten in over my head with this bike? At 42 thousand miles is this a sign of poor quality, abuse by a previous owner, or just the cost of riding a BMW?
Thanks for any opinions.
Wow, you live just down the road from us and we have had just as much if not worse experiences our Honda vs BMW's. Started with a POS 99 1100RT and traded for a 99 LT a month later with 41k. Week 2, it needed $1250 in minor servicing, none of which was disclosed before we paid for it. It then needed another $4500 in repairs.......having had no idea it could possibly cost that much. I did all the work myself and sold it while in perfect condition not being able to deal with any possibility of more repairs and parts not being available.
Last Oct we bought a 2006, GL1800 with 7K, one owner and a four year warranty. We spent $3k to upgrade to the Traxxion suspension which is a must after driving the LT with a new Ohlin's suspension. Another $2k or so for complete servicing, tires, shield, farkles, etc., and nothing but transmission problems since. The alternator had to be replaced at 9k miles, under warranty. That was diagnosed by a Traxxion tech who just listened to it for a couple minutes, and Honda did not believe that was a problem either until it was removed and the shaft could barely be turned.
Since we bought it, its been in the shop many times and I just had it shipped to Lancaster for three weeks. The tech was almost thrown from the bike when the trans locked up only two miles into the test ride. 600+ miles later, they could not duplicate the problem and it comes back Wed with a clean bill of health, stating nothing is wrong with it.
Riding, it does provide cleaner air (the air coming under the LT shield is hard to deal with once you ride a bike that does not have that), little buffeting, great seat, stereo, OEM com and GPS, ABS. Lots of great features and so much easier to handle at slow speed.
The Wing's OEM lights are much superior to the BMW. Not even a comparison. The LT has a MUCH nicer clutch and shifts like a hot knife through butter, at least ours did. The LT has a more user friendly cruise, which I really liked much better, as is the LT reverse.
The LT got 43 MPG, the Wing gets 35-37 tops.
We rode one long trip to Lake George NY last Oct 14th during the freakish snow storm and rode for hours in a blizzard with the Wing, fortunately without incident. I had it for sale and had a buyer, but the SO paid for it and would not sell.
If money were no object, I would continue to look and buy a GOOD wing until I found one I was happy with. Just visit the GL1800 riders forum and look at the daily listings of complaints and transmission failures. I won't even look any more. Just makes me sick.
We only have one BMW dealership in this area and they were off on the diagnosing of almost all of our problems and it was only due to the knowledge shared on this forum and the DVD's that I was able to fix the LT and get it back on the road. It had 48K when I sold it and it ran great.The LT will out run, out perform the 1800, hands down. However, on the long runs the Wing was much more comfy, IMO, and the torque is unbelievable!
BTW, at about 25K, it is suggested the suspension on the LT has had it and or needs service at the very least, and the cost to replace it is about $2600 from your local shop. We had 41K on ours until we realized we actually had NO suspension, which was a killer trying to ride.
If they could only merge the best of both bikes, it would be awesome.