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I live in Northern MI and am a little over 2hrs to the BMW dealer in Grand Rapids MI. I have a 9am appointment tomorrow for the 12k check up. I intended to ride it down in the am. Here is my problem. I went for a little ride tonight approx 10mi. I stopped at a buddies and visited for 2hrs or so. As I walked up to the bike getting ready to go home I noticed an oil puddle on the ground. I couldn't even really tell where it came from. I'm assuming the drive shaft but not sure. I decided to drive it home and after sitting for over an hour at home nothing has leaked. My question is, can I drive this the 2hrs down to the dealer? I don't really have a good trailer to haul it that far.

I wonder if one of you experts could call me and give me some idea what happened. If I shouldn't ride it I will be scrambling to find something to haul it with.

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Re: Please help asap regarding oil leak

Praobably dumb questions, but we sometimes overlook the obvious ...

Are you sure it came from your bike? Could you have simply parked it where something else had dropped fluid?

What was it that was on the ground? engine oil? antifreeze? etc.

Did you check the bottom of the bike (and other culprit areas) for signs of leaking before you left your buddies as well as when you got home?

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Praobably dumb questions, but we sometimes overlook the obvious ...

Are you sure it came from your bike? Could you have simply parked it where something else had dropped fluid?

What was it that was on the ground? engine oil? antifreeze? etc.

Did you check the bottom of the bike (and other culprit areas) for signs of leaking before you left your buddies as well as when you got home?


I'm sure it came from my bike. It leaked down and was on the tire. It was an pinkish oily substance. I'm sure it wasn't antifreeze. I checked it all over when I got home and nothing seems to be leaking. I'm embarrassed to say I don't even know what the culprit areas are.

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I'm sure it came from my bike. It leaked down and was on the tire. It was an pinkish oily substance. I'm sure it wasn't antifreeze. I checked it all over when I got home and nothing seems to be leaking. I'm embarrassed to say I don't even know what the culprit areas are.
Leaked on the *REAR* tire?

There is nothing you can make worse. I'd say start riding, but make sure you'll have the whole day off and a transport back because you aint going back on your bike.
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Before I took it for any ride, I'd check all the oil levels. It may have stopped leaking because it's bone dry. That might not work out as well as you'd hoped!
If it's pinkish, it may well be Redline. I think lots of folks (not me, I hate the stuff) use it in final drives and trannys. Just keep in mind that there's not a lot of oil in the final drive to begin with, so check it just to be sure.
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Ok, this is embarrassing. That's why I was hoping that someone would call me so I wouldn't have to post this. I don't even know how to check or where to check these levels. I do know where to check the engine oil. But that is it.

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again: rear or front tire?
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I spoke to David, and it is not the engine. It is in the Final Drive region for sure. After his description to me, it sounds like it may be the rear brake line, but it also may be the final drive. "Pinkish" color kind of throws me though - a year old bike should still have clean brake fluid, IMO. There isn't any play in the FD.

I told him how to check the FD oil, and advised to do that before he rides. If he has full FD oil, he'll go to the dealer tomorrow. He has a straight highway ride.

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again: rear or front tire?


I'm sorry, it's the rear tire.

I have recieved a couple of calls and now think it's the rear brake line.

Thank you so much.

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Ok, this is embarrassing. That's why I was hoping that someone would call me so I wouldn't have to post this. I don't even know how to check or where to check these levels. I do know where to check the engine oil. But that is it.

OH NO YOU DON'T:
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Do let us know what you find though. Always a learning experience for someone.
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If it was pink then it's had to believe it's brake fluid. Now the rear drive has the BMW gear oil which is now pink in color.
I would be very careful riding, if you do not have the rear bearing going then it's a bad rear drive seal. Running the rear drive dry will trash the bearing real quick. I would check the fluid level on the rear drive.

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Is the final drive fill cap still in place? It's at the top of the unit. See photo.

Yes, that happened to me. At the first 6k mile service on my LT, the tech left the fill cap off; I rode 3 hours to my next destination and discovered a mess. At that time the gear oil I used was black; the Mobil synthetic I'm using is red.
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I vote for rear drive fluid as the BMW synthetic is red now. Brake fluid (BMW anyway) is clear to yellowish.

The rear drives have been known to "puke" out a small amount of oil that gets trapped in the breather. Not a common item but not unheard of either.

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Just talked to David a while ago... seems he was able to tighten the rear brake banjo bolt at the caliper.. He's going to try applying the brake to see if there's still a leak.

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What'd we figure out on this one?
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I still vote for the final drive; most likely a seal, hence the wheel won't show any play or harshness... for now so it is an inconclusive test.

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I vote for rear drive fluid as the BMW synthetic is red now. Brake fluid (BMW anyway) is clear to yellowish.

The rear drives have been known to "puke" out a small amount of oil that gets trapped in the breather. Not a common item but not unheard of either.
That was my first thought too, John. Maybe the FD was just over-filled a little bit and puked. Which would be the lesser of two evils.

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Well I just got home. It turns out that it was the final drive seal. It had nothing to do with the brakes.

Thanks again for all the help!

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thanks for the update. always good to hear, and glad it was no worse than it was,
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Interestingly another guy with 09 LT had Rear drive issues recently if my memory serves me correctly.

Couple of months ago I saw some oil sipping out from my 04 LT rear drive where the metal ring tightens the rubber against the shaft towards the front. When I tighten the metal ring with screw driver, I did not see any more sipping. (I changed the rear drive oil too just to see how much oil I lost. It was almost not noticable)

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Well I just got home. It turns out that it was the final drive seal. It had nothing to do with the brakes.

Thanks again for all the help!

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Ok this is the first chance I've had since the oil leak to really sit down at the computer. I had to race home from GR to head out on a church type retreat.

I rode down to the dealership and sure enough they found the seal problem right away but they didn't have a new one in stock. They gave me a loaner bike and I rode to a buddies house and spent the night. The next morn the part didn't come in as expected and they couldn't get it repaired before I had to get home for a weekend church retreat. They let me keep the loaner and ride it all the way home. I really appreciate BMW of GR. They went out of their way to help me out. I will be supporting them with some purchases that I know I could get cheaper online.

Tomorrow I will be headed back down to get my bike. Looks like it'll be a nice day for a ride here in MI.

Thanks again for all the help and phone calls, you guys are awesome!! I hope I will be able to pay this forward someday for someone else!!

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I vote for input seal leak down the tube, leaks around the boot. Happened to me.

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Well I just talked to the dealership. They had good news and bad news. The good news is that the seal problem has been fixed. The bad news is my front shock is bad.

Some of you might remember back when I first got the bike I complained that it seemed to ride rough. I tried messing with the adjustment and it didn't seem to help much. Since I didn't know better I just assumed that this is the way it is. The dealership loaned be an 09LT demo to ride and I could tell right away that it rode better. The mechanic took my bike for a test ride after fixing the seal problem and discovered that it in fact rode too rough. Upon inspection he discovered that the front shock is bad. Thank goodness it is covered under warranty.

I'm seriously considering purchasing some extended warranty coverage. I think it is something like $1200 for an extra 2-3 yrs. Do you guys think I should buy it??

Maybe I should start a new thread with that question.

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I'm seriously considering purchasing some extended warranty coverage. I think it is something like $1200 for an extra 2-3 yrs. Do you guys think I should buy it??

Maybe I should start a new thread with that question.

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I bought an extended warranty because I was still financing the bike. I have Pinnacle, and so far they paid to a Final drive seal replacement. Contact Ted Shred, a member of this forum, at A&S BMW in NORCAL. I did the entire transaction with him over the phone and via e-mail.
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I am normally the first one to boo hoo on extended warranties.

But with the level of technology that modern vehicles have, One out of warranty incident could recover the cost of the extended coverage...
I just bought a new/used HHR and went ahead and sprung for the extended...Hopefully I'll be trouble free because of this, If not, I'm covered...


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I bought an extended warranty because I was still financing the bike. I have Pinnacle, and so far they paid to a Final drive seal replacement. Contact Ted Shred, a member of this forum, at A&S BMW in NORCAL. I did the entire transaction with him over the phone and via e-mail.
If you do a search on extended warranty you will find a lot of information and opinions on the subject.
How much was your extended warranty on your LT, and how long is the term, if you don't mind me asking. I currently have a 2009 LT and am considering an extended warranty, as well.
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How much was your extended warranty on your LT, and how long is the term, if you don't mind me asking. I currently have a 2009 LT and am considering an extended warranty, as well.
I do not recall the specifics, just that I got a 4 year contract and a good deal from Ted Shred at A&S. Ted will be better able to answer your questions as pricing may have changed since I bought my Pinnacle contract 2 years ago.

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