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2006 DDM HID Install

Just took the nose of my 2006 K1200LT to install a DDM H7 HID in the low beam. I disconnected the low beam wiring and cannot see how the HID wiring connects to the
LT wiring. There are no connectors behind the LT nose
That would fit into the HID connectors. How do I resolve this?
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Just took the nose of my 2006 K1200LT to install a DDM H7 HID in the low beam. I disconnected the low beam wiring and cannot see how the HID wiring connects to the
LT wiring. There are no connectors behind the LT nose
That would fit into the HID connectors. How do I resolve this?
I thought the 2006 came with HID for lowbeam..?

If not..

Mark... did you remove the "cover" over the low beam area?

If so, then you disconnected the seal where the 2 wires go to the lamp (one connector with 2 wires)... then pulled the lamp... if you are that far 'in'... look at the 2 wires.. the brown is "ground" or "black" from your HID kit. the other is the other wire..

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Re: 2006 DDM HID Install

Apologies the year should have read 2005.
The low beam (the upper bigger light) does not look like or illuminate like a HID.

Anyway, on the lamp housing a two wire connector comes from the loom and plugs into the outer shell of the light. On the inside of the light two more wires come from the inside of this connector to the stock bulb. I unplugged these two wires and plugged the HID into them and I am getting nothing. Put the stock bulb back in and it works OK.
Put another HID in and no joy again. Whats up?

Incidentally on the DDM H7 kit there are 4 single wire connectors which are not connected to each other when you purchase the kit but obviously plug into each other, if this is the case why are they not permanently wired together at the manufacturer ?

In summary correct me if I am wrong, All I have to do to get the DDM HID to work is to plug it into the two wires that originally went into the stock bulb, Correct ?
If this is the case it aint working for me.

Is the low beam (H7) on the 2005 a HID already ?
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Re: 2006 DDM HID Install

Looking at several of the threads relating to this topic one instrction I ommited to follow was to disconnect the battery first. Why does it need to be disconnected ?
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Re: 2006 DDM HID Install

Mark, HID bulbs need a much higher voltage at the connector to work. You need to put an interface between the loom and the new bulb - you can't simply swap them over. It's the same kind of difference between a tungsten bulb and a strip light in the house.

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Mark, HID bulbs need a much higher voltage at the connector to work. You need to put an interface between the loom and the new bulb - you can't simply swap them over. It's the same kind of difference between a tungsten bulb and a strip light in the house.

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Yes I realise that Keith. I have the whole HID kit including the ballast etc. I am not just changing the bulb I am actrually installing the HID kit.

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There should be two spade connectors that plug into the existing light socket, those wires feed back out through the grommet to the ballast / ignitor then the HV leads feed back throught the grommet to the HID bulb.

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Mark, there's a few pics of my 2005 HID install here if its of any help.
One thing I did, which I don't really know if its of any use or not, is run a new earth wire from the frame at the front to the battery earth at the rear of the bike, then connect the HID earth to this new spot. Can't remember exactly why I did it now, but its been working fine. I think it might have been in case I installed anything else up front that needed earthing.... one less cable to run to the rear again.... Actually, maybe I needed it for the motolights?

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Re: 2006 DDM HID Install

When I installed my HID, there were 4 "loose" wires after "connecting" the Ballast to the harness.

Two wires went to the "headlight" connector... two went to the battery.

The headlight connector "triggers" the HID ballast to "fire" the "HID" capsule.

There was another connector that went to the headlight itself.. to the HID capsule.

Does your unit NOT have wires to connect to the battery?

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When I installed my HID, there were 4 "loose" wires after "connecting" the Ballast to the harness.

Two wires went to the "headlight" connector... two went to the battery.

The headlight connector "triggers" the HID ballast to "fire" the "HID" capsule.

There was another connector that went to the headlight itself.. to the HID capsule.

Does your unit NOT have wires to connect to the battery?

No wires to connect to the battery,
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Is the low beam (H7) on the 2005 a HID already ?
Most did not, unless you bought that option from BMW when the bike was new ($$$).

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Re: 2006 DDM HID Install

Finally git it sorted. I had connected the 4 small HID wires the wrong way around. Thanks for all the advice.

Now another problem,
The HID works fine but after a while it turns itself off for no apparent reason. If I then turn the bikes ignition off and on again the HID works OK. Whats up here, I am sure that all the connections are tight. Could this be a overheaing problem?
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Finally git it sorted. I had connected the 4 small HID wires the wrong way around. Thanks for all the advice.

Now another problem,
The HID works fine but after a while it turns itself off for no apparent reason. If I then turn the bikes ignition off and on again the HID works OK. Whats up here, I am sure that all the connections are tight. Could this be a overheaing problem?
Maybe this is the problem:

I had connected the 4 small HID wires the wrong way around.

Oops!

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Bump, Help!. Why is the HID turning off !
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Mark, the HID lights use a gas inside a tube to make the bulb. To light the gas an ignitor function internal to the ballast is used.

So what happens is you turn on the key and the HID lamp begins to light up but starts out dim and then comes to full brightness. Watch it and you will see what I mean. If the lamp start up is interrupted then it may fail to fully ignite which will cause it to go out until the startup sequence is repeated. (key off then back on)

Try this.

1.) Turn the key on
2.) Let the light become fully bright which means the ignitor circuit has finished it's job. I turn the key on, buckle my helmet strap, and put on my gloves. This gives the light time to come to full brightness.
3.) Start the engine and ride away.

Using this startup sequence should get the gas inside the bulb hot enough to instantly light up when power is restored after the engine starts.

If this is not what's happening then I would check to make sure all your connections are solid then contact DDM if this doesn't fix it. The bulb would likely be bad.

I hope this works for you. These lights make a huge difference.

Good luck,

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Thanks WAK, that worked.
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What was fix? To give it time to heat up first?

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Glad it's working for ya!!! The HID makes a huge difference when going down the road doesn't it?

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What was fix? To give it time to heat up first?

Yes, thats the fix.
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