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Dose anyone have an idea how to make some real horsepower from 2009 LT. I have a need for more power of the line and low end. :bmw
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Re: Looking for more horsepower

Buy a GT.
Really, what mod is going to take you from 100 HP to 150?
BMW added 10 HP during the 2005 upgrade and there is not a whole lot of difference. Most of us feel the power is pretty good for an 850 lb. touring bike. Let the higher rpm's and transmisson work for you when you need to kick it in the butt.
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It already makes 'real' horsepower. 100hp is nothing to sneeze at. Remember, it weighs about double what a sport bike weighs.
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Dose anyone have an idea how to make some real horsepower from 2009 LT. I have a need for more power of the line and low end. :bmw
Yes new cams, head porting, new valves, seats, guides, a new exhaust, new clutch, bigger domed pistons for higher compression, and something to control the fuel with.

Good luck with all that. I think pre 05 you could swap cams out of another BMW model, get a Rhinewest Chip, and exhaust. But I don't believe there is anything after 05 to do. No one makes anything to control the fuel map, like a Power Commander or similar. So if you can get it bumped up from the other work, not sure how you would control fuel mapping. And while a second 02 bung and a fuel sniffer will tell you your fuel ratio, still no way to control it.

Just hang on a few more months and the New LT should give you what you crave.

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I am looking into a turbo for this bike. I am to big for the GT (also the LT). At 6'4" and 340lbs not much more of a bike to get. I have a Mr. Turbo on Vulcan 1500 now. I love the bike and was looking for the superior ride handling and stoping of the BMW. They will not make a Turbo kit for the LT as of now. Might have to make a winter project out of this bike.
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The '05+ LTs have 115 hp. My long trips, 2,000+ miles, are all 2 up and the power and comfort are what I expect for a luxury touring bike. If more power is 'needed' then I say "make the GT work for you".
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If you want to do forced induction you will probably have to cheat the ECM. I have seen superchargers that added an additional injector which was controlled by the level of boost the engine is seeing to add fuel to compensate for the boost. It's a crude way to manage AFR, but it seemed to work in that application. A similar thing could be done with a turbo I guess but the air/fuel delivery system on the LT would make something like this pretty complex to pull off in terms of the plumbing and locating the injector.

As Lee said, no known way to re-map the ECM so no good way to manage AFR.

NOS would kill this motor pretty much instantly unless it was a wet system, which pretty much mimics what the SC described above does.

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Is the clutch going to hold up to all these mods?

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Probably NOT!
I would say definitely not. however there are some stronger clutches out there already.

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Re: Looking for more horsepower

Here's a link I found from this site the other day.

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/blackhol...0exhausts.html

http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/bmw_clutches.html

Good reading anyway, enjoy!

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I am looking into a turbo for this bike. I am to big for the GT (also the LT). At 6'4" and 340lbs not much more of a bike to get. I have a Mr. Turbo on Vulcan 1500 now. I love the bike and was looking for the superior ride handling and stoping of the BMW. They will not make a Turbo kit for the LT as of now. Might have to make a winter project out of this bike.

Here's a turbo kit from RB Racing:
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It already makes 'real' horsepower. 100hp is nothing to sneeze at. Remember, it weighs about double what a sport bike weighs.
Actually, the 05 and beyond make 116 bhp.

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off the line and low end sounds like you want torque and a different power curve

when you're above 5K or 6K it is a whole different bike, but that does not seem to be what you;re after

rbracing site other provided links to looks interesting, give it a read and read ALL of it the site is informative and entertaining. You could go all the way from turbo to fuel rails to exhaust and add a clutch to handle the extra HP from them. I would expect though that you would still be looking at high end HP not low end grunt. Maybe they could tell you. I was thinking about using their stuff on my old LT before I bought he new one.

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Kinda like making a race car out of a big Caddy.

I like "muscle" bikes. I have a modified Triumph Rocket III with 150 hp / 153 ft. lbs. of torque for kicks. But, I still pick the LT 9 out of 10 times I leave the garage.

And...suprisingly enough, I can beat my buddy's 106 cu. in. Victory with the LT. It's not bad when you let it rev.

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Frist, I want to say thank you to all. I have to see where this leads me to for the gains that I crave. Spoke to the dealer today about finding a K 13000 GT & is that what makes me feel right. I just sold my screaming eagle ultra glide with 103 made about 90 hp. I feel like the throttle is nothing more than a volume control on the ultra glide. If they have a stero and speakers for th GT it might be my only way out. Dose any one know if they have more leg room???? My Lt is very tight for leg room now with suburban lower pegs and XL j pegs There is some more room.
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You could drop a hundred pounds.... then you would live longer and faster!

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You should note that RB Racing has been around for a long time. I would not recommend them since some on this site have had a bad experience using them in the past.

We all want more power but I guess we will have to wait!!

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For what it's worth, RBRacing turbo for the LT is vaporware. They have yet to deliver one since they started advertising it on their site. The answer from previous inquiries has been "Coming soon." Seen that for the last 4 years. And as far as I know, there is NO updated after market clutch for the LT.

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You could drop a hundred pounds.... then you would live longer and faster!
Yeah! What Ghaison said! And while you're at it why don't you drop about 6" in HEIGHT! Then it won't be too short for you!!!

BTW, I am 5'8". If you gave up 5" in height you would STILL be taller than me!

Ya Bum!

FWIW, these bikes are dogs at low RPM. Boost the R's over 4 500 and hang on! They are a riot over 5,000 RPM. It takes a little getting used to running them this fast but they really respond well and the acceleration is exhilarating! I would imagine this would hold especially true coming from the relatively slow turning V-Twin torque monsters. They are a completely different ride. Think of the difference in RPM for your Harley and the revs an Indy car turns. Lean a little more toward the Indy car and I think you will have more fun.

And I didn't mean the crack I made about your height (ya bum)!

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Well now I have just a few more miles of seat time and. Have learned it takes the high revs to get her up and running. The more I push her the more I am getting. I have to bring it to the line and see where it goes. I now have 1200 miles and trying to see when it starts to loosen up some. I have started to real like the idea that a bike can stop and handle like it should. I have my LT in service and was on my 05 screaming eagle ultra glide yesterday. WOW it is compressor on wheels & stop like a roller with steel wheels. Thanks for all the support.
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If you want horsepower buy a BOSS HOSS
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I have an '08 LT with a Remus exhaust... it was put on by the dealer before selling it... it adds about 15 hp giving me 130 total and drops 19 lb from the weight of the bike. quite a noticeable difference in power. i was cruising this forum looking for more ways to increase the hp! i dont want to buy another bike but i am missing my '06 K12GT...my wife isn't though
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Dose any one know if they have more leg room????
Hi!

1200RT 2010 has the stereo and much room for legs. Quite near LT in fact! (in my opinion), RT has little more power and less weight also!

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A while back I had looked into trying to increase HP on my LT and finally gave it up realizing that it would only cause to many other problems decreasing the dependability. Remus pipes was one of the easy add ons that would give maybe 10 to 15 HP. There was a company in San Antonio that would upgrade the computer and could change some power bands increasing low end etc. I'm having senior moment and can't remember their name but they sell the Remus pipes also. I gree with others that there is other weak points on the bike that would not hold up with the extra power though. I'm in the process of trying to sell my better half on me getting a new 2010 RT to satisfy my needs when she isn't on the back. I would keep the LT though.
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I just thought of the name of the place (http://www.rhinewest.com/ltperf.htm). The do all of the performance chips etc. and have pipes to match.
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Have an 09 and I'm about your size and yes I wanted a bit more bottom end and a bit more top end.

After having the bike for a couple of seasons now I've learned how to drive the bike to have the performance I wanted I also have come to realize that I need to slow the hell down the problem with this bike is that running in triple digits comes all to easily to the point that its not really noticeable.

The loved the GT but it had too much power I didn't like getting jerked back every time I hit the throttle and it just wouldn't be good for riding two up LOL her comfort is more important then my need for extreme speed.

Give it some time you'll find that bike has a lot to offer that may not be readily apparent right now

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Slim,

I was going to say you just need to keep it in first gear a little longer like to say 60 mph then shift to second and nail it. You will be way ahead of the pack by then.

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I was going to say you just need to keep it in first gear a little longer like to say 60 mph then shift to second and nail it. You will be way ahead of the pack by then.
jzeiler has it right.
I have to say that I usually stay out of the "I need more horsepower" threads....
I mean, I dunno how much other people need.
But I have to say I do wonder what it is that people expect. Seriously, most of these queries come from HD guys who would be spending the big bucks on a "stage I" or "stage II" kit to get more low end oomph.

I pass HDs with my 2000KLT overloaded with camping gear, two up, all the time. If I'm not careful I might hit the rev limiter, but most of the time things are shrinking nicely in the rear view mirror without a hiccup.

My take on it is this: if an LT doesn't give you enough "get up and go", you need to figure out where the power band is, or you need a different bike. Maybe one designed to compete in the 1/4 mile.....
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Try hooking up a horse to the fornt of the bike.

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