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Howdy! We're preparing for our Tech Session next weekend and would like to know if anyone out there has the specifications (measurements with picture or, better yet, CAD drawings) of the following special tools I've found in the Clymer's RS/GT/LT Repair manual:

Engine Special Tools:
Seal Driver, BMW PN 11 6 732, or fabricated equivalent (pg 129, A, Fig 197)
Bearing Driver, BMW PN 11 6 733, or fabricated equivalent (pg 129, B, Fig 197)

Clutch Special Tools:
Clutch Center Pin, BMW PN 21 2 673 (pg 166, C, Fig 3)....looks like this can be made out of aluminum stock and turned on a lathe....just need the dimentions!
Clutch Centering Bridge, BMW PN 21 2 672 (pg 166, D, Fig 3)

Transmission Special Tools:
Seal Guide for the input shaft seal on the housing side (pg 193, Fig 31)

Final Drive Special Tools:
Swing Arm Bearing Press-Out Tool, BMW PN 33 6 644 (pg 451, Fig 171) - how far apart are the pins?

Yes, I could tool all these from scratch after we pull it all out (I expect these will take some time to fabricate), but I'd like to have the tools in hand when we're doing the job and for later use!

Hopefully someone out there has some examples with pics, schematics/diagrams, and measurements and can post them to this thread for all to use!!!

Thanks!


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Re: Special Tool Specifications?

BFH... I got that covered...

or if you prefer.... guided inertia influencer.
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Re: Special Tool Specifications?

If anyone has any of the tools on the list, (with exception of the Hammer:BFH), would you consider mailing to us for use?

They will not be struck with BFH..

I have the socket for the Schwingarm.
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I wish... all I bought were the BFH's by the case............

If anyone does have the dwgs, please pass it on... I could have a hobby then

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Clutch Special Tools:
Clutch Center Pin, BMW PN 21 2 673 (pg 166, C, Fig 3)....looks like this can be made out of aluminum stock and turned on a lathe....just need the dimentions!
Clutch Centering Bridge, BMW PN 21 2 672 (pg 166, D, Fig 3)
Thanks!
I got by with a 3/8 drive 8 or 9mm socket over the clutch actuating rod.



Held everything just fine while I tightened down the Clutch Rotor. Just keep checking the rod to make sure it remains loose and everything will be centered. My transmission went right on without issue.

Good luck!

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I got by with a 3/8 drive 8 or 9mm socket over the clutch actuating rod.
Held everything just fine while I tightened down the Clutch Rotor. Just keep checking the rod to make sure it remains loose and everything will be centered. My transmission went right on without issue.
Good luck!
Thanks for the tip! If no one has the specs for the center guide, your tip will sure come in handy!

Have a great day!


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I have most if not all of these tools already made up if you need to borrow them. Pm me with info if you are interested.
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PM sent! Thanks for the assist, it'll help us out significantly!

If there are any others out there that may have the specs for these tools, your help would be very greatly appreciated!

It looks like we may have to add a sub-forum site specifically related to tools to help others with the task of collecting this info and good ideas to make the job easier or more efficient!

Thanks,
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Don,
PM sent! Thanks for the assist, it'll help us out significantly!

If there are any others out there that may have the specs for these tools, your help would be very greatly appreciated!

It looks like we may have to add a sub-forum site specifically related to tools to help others with the task of collecting this info and good ideas to make the job easier or more efficient!

Thanks,
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+1 on a Tool/Use Forum, good thought

Sounds like you guys getting ready to have some fun

I am curious on something you said asking if someone had these tools in CAD. Does that mean you have access to cut said tools?

Since to death do I part on this machine, I would love to collect what I can. Sooo if you find a way to make some of these I would for sure be interested in going in on a group effort

I also forget who posted on the puller for the seals but I would hunt that up as the plate with three screws in it looked like it got the job done, worth the read. I see this stuff and get pissed, as while I have lift and great tools, I have not even a little bit or metal working ability/tools

At any rate have a ball, read all you can on this forum related to clutch replacement, take lots of photos, this sometimes helps going back together, or at least entertains us when you post up

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+1 on a Tool/Use Forum, good thought

Sounds like you guys getting ready to have some fun

I am curious on something you said asking if someone had these tools in CAD. Does that mean you have access to cut said tools?

Since to death do I part on this machine, I would love to collect what I can. Sooo if you find a way to make some of these I would for sure be interested in going in on a group effort

I also forget who posted on the puller for the seals but I would hunt that up as the plate with three screws in it looked like it got the job done, worth the read. I see this stuff and get pissed, as while I have lift and great tools, I have not even a little bit or metal working ability/tools

At any rate have a ball, read all you can on this forum related to clutch replacement, take lots of photos, this sometimes helps going back together, or at least entertains us when you post up
Amen LAF! People who have the skills necessary to do precision metal work are like gods! Me? I taught myself to stick metal together with an AC stick welder but that's as far as it goes with me! Precision turned tools made on a lathe boggle my mind. Give me a manual and a couple hours and I could probably get the thing to turn!

Carry on machinists!

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Gentlemen I learned many many years ago that making tools is just about as easy as making scraps. All that is involved is have a picture in your mind of what it will look like ( as well as a few measurements) and cut everything off that doesn't look like it belongs to that part. Just that easy.
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Gentlemen I learned many many years ago that making tools is just about as easy as making scraps. All that is involved is have a picture in your mind of what it will look like ( as well as a few measurements) and cut everything off that doesn't look like it belongs to that part. Just that easy.

And you know what? I believe to you, it is just that easy

To me, well ADHD, Dyslexia, and Halfheimer collide when I see metal. Seriously I played with tig, and mig, and ran a few grinders, some wicked saws, a water saw, and other stuff just enough to know it was not me. And I just never added those types of tools to my collection. Bench grinder/wire wheel is about as close as I get

Back in the day you could run 20 minuets and get just about anything welded up, and those guys were wizards. Little tougher to find now and the old bucks are dieing off.

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+1 on a Tool/Use Forum, good thought

I also forget who posted on the puller for the seals but I would hunt that up as the plate with three screws in it looked like it got the job done, worth the read.
I believe you are talking about our very own Ari "the Farkle-Freak-Finn" Ignatius!!!!

The seal puller he made up does the job quite well it appears. If you are removing the rear main. I would highly suggest this of something simular. It took a lot of head scratching to remove the last one I did...





Here is the post..


it appears he made up his own Clutch Center Pin as well..





Also, Its 6:30 here on the west coast. I'll give it until midnight PST before Ari, chimes in.. I think his pinky toe hurts when his name is mentioned on the forum....

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The seal puller he made up does the job quite well it appears. If you are removing the rear main. I would highly suggest this of something simular. It took a lot of head scratching to remove the last one I did...

it appears he made up his own Clutch Center Pin as well..
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Thanks! I like the seal puller plate idea ....once I get the seal, I'll make a circular template and cut a circular disk and drill three holes for screws (I may use smaller holes so I don't have any problems with the fit or scratching any surfaces).

since I don't have an extra push rod sitting around anywhere, I'll try and figure something out....perhaps next week I'll turn some stock metal to varying thicknesses up to .98" so it'll support multiple different sizes and keep the seal/bearing/race on center.

I'm hoping my bike is only apart for the day for the Tech Session....I gag at the thought of taking up Chann's lift for longer than that .....plus the weather here is perfect for riding!

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since I don't have an extra push rod sitting around anywhere,
Just use your OEM push rod, You are just holding the center point. The rubber Ari, fashioned is to hold the rod in place while its centered. Once the clutch plate it torques down, the rod will be removed. You'll maybe use it for 1-2 minutes. 1-2 hours if you have help from the collective....

Or do like most of us do.....eye ball it. Using ample amounts of Kentucky windage!

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