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post #1 of 55 Old Dec 27th, 2009, 6:15 pm Thread Starter
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I just finished upgrading my cockpit. The first thing I did was to reinforce my BMR shelf & extensions. I moved my Garmin 2720 to the left, Installed a new Garmin 7200 in the middle, Installed a new compass on the right & mounted my new Spot Messenger on the right handlebar. What I thought would take a few hours took a day and a half. Lee Wilson stopped & helped or it would have taken longer.

The Garmin 7200 isn't waterproof so I'll have a cover made for it. My main goal was to have a GPS unit that I can see with out my prescription glasses & that goal was definitely achieved.

I hope to have the rest of the bike back together sometime tomorrow. I can't wait to see the difference.
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Looks real good. Curious about the compass though! With two GPS's, why the mechanical one? Does the sun shade help much with the 2720? Mine really gets washed out in the sunshine. By the way, I was up in SC this past weekend in the cage. Nice weather until the 26th. Left this morning for Florida and it was 37' chilly.

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Looking good!

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Dandiver;

the first page of the GPS instructions always mentions to actually carry a 'compass'.

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Why are you keeping both GPS's?
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I hope to have the rest of the bike back together sometime tomorrow. I can't wait to see the difference.
Now if you could only see the road! :-)

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Dave, cockpit looks great. As for a waterproof case for your Garmin, RAM Mounts makes a product they call aqua box or something close to this. It comes in several different sizes and it has a membrane front cover so you can use the touch screen on your GPS.

If I ultimately wind up with a non-waterproof GPS I plant to get a regular mount for those sunny days and an aqua box thingey for the other 362 days.

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Looks real good. Curious about the compass though! With two GPS's, why the mechanical one? Does the sun shade help much with the 2720? Mine really gets washed out in the sunshine. By the way, I was up in SC this past weekend in the cage. Nice weather until the 26th. Left this morning for Florida and it was 37' chilly.
A lot of days I have no idea where I want to go & I'll leave the gps off. If I decide to head nnw for 6 to 8 hrs. I'll use the compass then I'll use the gps to get home. As far as the sun shade it doesn't help much at all. The angle of the screen & polarized glasses work best for me. It does keep most of the rain drops off though.

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Why are you keeping both GPS's?
Because I can. They are programed different so if I decide to change the type of roads I want to ride on one or the other will keep me on track without having to stop & change the priority settings.

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Now if you could only see the road! :-)
I have yet to ever look thru the windscreen. I sit high enough that my eyesight is over the windscreen.

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Do a couple of trips to check for interference between the two GPS's. I was messing around with two Garmins in the cage and found that there was some negative interaction. These are microwave receivers with very sensitive circuits that generate some RF hash. That can cause some false readings.

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The first thing I did was to reinforce my BMR shelf & extensions.
Where did you get your shelf support extensions? I need a set like that for a shelf I have (not BMR).

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Do a couple of trips to check for interference between the two GPS's. I was messing around with two Garmins in the cage and found that there was some negative interaction. These are microwave receivers with very sensitive circuits that generate some RF hash. That can cause some false readings.
I leave for a six day ride tomorrow. I'll try it with both on now & them just to see what happens.

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Where did you get your shelf support extensions? I need a set like that for a shelf I have (not BMR).

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Nice job !!! Take plenty of pic's on the trip and fill us in when you get back.
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Wow. The extra brace looks really good. Very clean install.

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Ya really gotta put a DVD/Blueray player on that 7200.... Sheesh!

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A lot of days I have no idea where I want to go & I'll leave the gps off. If I decide to head nnw for 6 to 8 hrs. I'll use the compass then I'll use the gps to get home. As far as the sun shade it doesn't help much at all. The angle of the screen & polarized glasses work best for me. It does keep most of the rain drops off though.
I was curious about the compass also. Does not one of both of your GPS units have a compass screen display available? My old Garmin Streetpilot III did.

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It's so ridiculous looking I'm just sitting here laughing..... thinking about all the people that have asked me why I need ONE gps..... which btw displays direction......

I thought I was crazy with my radar detector and two laser jammers....

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Off the subject a bit--but I noticed you have a bullet-proof vest in your pics...what's it used for other than the normal every day stopping a bullet?

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Dave,
Did you have a REALLY bad experience getting lost one time?
We always treat getting slightly lost to be part of the fun and adventure of it all .... guess we'll not likely ever ride together huh ?
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Off the subject a bit--but I noticed you have a bullet-proof vest in your pics...what's it used for other than the normal every day stopping a bullet?
Wade,
Dave is out on the road on his (seemingly) monthly trip of a lifetime. I'll handle this one.

I asked this question some time ago. Dave wears the vest as body armor, not for stopping bullets, but for prevention of rash in the case of... Well, you know.

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If you get lost now it will be because you could not see the road.

But I feell for you. It got to the point where I could not see my gauges and GPS clearly without reading glases and I could not ride with reading only glasses. But now my eyes are so bad I need glasses for everything. Full time trifocal progessive lenses solved the problem. It's the first time getting older had a positive effect.
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Wow, Large shelf, good reference picture for me to make it.

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... ha ..... ha ... ha ... that is cool, It almost looks like my Mooney M20J VC Cockpit ... forget about the G7200 get yourself a nice G1000 EFIS (Stands for Electronic Flight Instrument System) ...... oh ya, I need some ideas how to mount 40" plasma on my Puppy, swap the CD Changer with Blue Ray DVR, ...should be fun


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Do a couple of trips to check for interference between the two GPS's. I was messing around with two Garmins in the cage and found that there was some negative interaction. These are microwave receivers with very sensitive circuits that generate some RF hash. That can cause some false readings.
Over the last 3000 miles they seem to work just fine next to each other.

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I did have one crack in the left side plastic show up in La. after riding on some rough roads. It never spread any farther but I'll reinforce it next time I have it apart.
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Hi Dave,

My bike is same condition du to aged, I take off and repair by epoxy and repaint.
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Do the Garmins argue with each other if they disagree on the route?

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I'll see your two GPS's and raise you three.



And I guess you could count the iPhone, as it has map/GPS capabilities (if I have a decent cell signal, that is). Oh, and there's also a RallyBook roll chart, for when I need to scroll through those pesky paper directions.

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That's going too far. Do you really need the Sharpie? Nice setup.

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Too far is in the eye of the beholder. Trust me, I use everything on that bike on a regular basis.

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Actually, yes. The blue one is my backup sharpie, as I'd already lost the red one from the other side. And you can just see three of the four ink pens that I usually carry as well . . .

All of this stuff is used for Long Distance Rallies. Think of a giant scavenger hunt, based over several states or over the entire US and Canada. Then you'll understand the redundant GPS units and plethora of office supplies.

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Trust me, I use everything on that bike on a regular basis.
I figured you did. Or there wouldn't be any reason to carry it. I think Dave told me you had 2 GPS' quit on you during the IBR. I have no knowlege of rallies, other than the Iron Butt and I only know it by name. I know you run lots of rallies, and win one every now and then. Had no idea they were giant scavenger hunts. That kind of makes sense, as I knew they couldn't be just a race between checkpoints.

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An endurance rally is very much not a race, as there's simply no advantage to coming in "first". In fact, top riders will often stay out on the road until the very last minute in order to get one more bonus location before checking in. I've finished more than one rally with less than 2 minutes remaining on the clock (including the IBR).

The trick is to solve the time/distance/endurance puzzle to maximize your points total without going over the allotted time. Yes, there are some situations where riding faster helps, but getting pulled over wastes a lot of time (and money). Some rallies even seal your drivers license and insurance docs in an envelope and if that envelope is opened for any reason you lose a ton of points. Believe me, that's a very effective deterrent.

So doing well requires smart planning, efficient execution, exceptional mental and physical endurance, and a good dose of luck (not the least of which is mechanical reliability). But that's the challenge of it all, that is putting yourself up against 20-100 other skilled riders all trying to solve the same big puzzle..

You can get an idea of what a typical 24-hour rally is about by reading my Cal24 ride report, or by looking up other rally ride reports on the IronButt.org Rally Reports forum.

But to get back to the original post, if anyone does figure out how to waterproof a Garmin 7200 I'd sure be interested. Gotta love those huge screens.

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But to get back to the original post, if anyone does figure out how to waterproof a Garmin 7200 I'd sure be interested. Gotta love those huge screens.
Ken, I use a zip-lock bag over my Escort. Fits over the detector & ram mount & zips up tight. This wouldn't work on a gps since it has writing on the bag. I saw a post on another site by Radar Ron, who is the main tester on radartest.com. He uses a clear shower cap over his detectors which might work over your gps's. May not be pretty, but protecting your gear is the important thing.

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You guys could add a glide slope indicator to the cockpit array and land at any airport if the visibility is really bad. Just ask approach for vectors.

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Ken, I use a zip-lock bag over my Escort.
I've also used the ziploc bag and shower cap trick. But I really hate having to fiddle with plastic every time it maybe sorta kinda looks like rain.

I prefer to have everything on the bike be waterproof from the get-go, including myself.

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You guys could add a glide slope indicator to the cockpit array and land at any airport if the visibility is really bad. Just ask approach for vectors.
What I'd rather have is an aircraft proximity warning sensor, so when they say "Speed Enforced by Aircraft" you can tell if they really mean it or not. (And yes, I do know a guy that is running one of those for just that purpose.)

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Do you have just waterproof navigators? I have none and if I`d like to buy...

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Off the subject a bit--but I noticed you have a bullet-proof vest in your pics...what's it used for other than the normal every day stopping a bullet?
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There are several waterproof GPS units available. The most common are the Garmin Zumo series, but Garmin has also produced other older waterproof versions like the StreetPilot 26XX series and the Marine-based 376/476 series.

I'm using Lowrance iWay GPS units, but those are discontinued as well.

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But its the waterproof we got to buy? Sorry, but Im a little "fresh" with bikes... The models Ive been checking, Tomtom etc the prices go up heavily when waterproof model.

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Ken, here in Oregon/Washington I think I would trade one of those GPS units for a depth finder and wear the shower cap for those "occasional" rain showers we get here!

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But its the waterproof we got to buy? Sorry, but Im a little "fresh" with bikes... The models Ive been checking, Tomtom etc the prices go up heavily when waterproof model.
Jukka, RAM MOUNTS makes a waterproof box called an "aquabox" that has a membrane front panel that should let you use any touch screen automotive GPS. Remember, the automotive GPS's aren't hardened for vibrations but it looks like there is enough foam included to mitigate the vibration issues.

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResu...0/Default.aspx

The link shows a medium size box on a GoldWing but they make the mounting hardware for the BMW's also.

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But its the waterproof we got to buy? Sorry, but Im a little "fresh" with bikes... The models Ive been checking, Tomtom etc the prices go up heavily when waterproof model.
Jukka, RAM MOUNTS makes a waterproof box called an "aquabox" that has a membrane front panel that should let you use any touch screen automotive GPS. Remember, the automotive GPS's aren't hardened for vibrations but it looks like there is enough foam included with the box to mitigate the vibration issues.

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResu...0/Default.aspx

The link shows a medium size box on a GoldWing but they make the mounting hardware for the BMW's also.

I just today bought one of their mounts that attaches to the clutch or brake master cylinder on the handlebars. I am going to use it for a GPS unit that I purchased from one of our esteemed forum members.

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You gave me a great idea........flat screen TV with my sattelite on the top case!!!!
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