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post #1 of 31 Old Dec 9th, 2009, 11:39 am Thread Starter
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Helmet for K1200LT

Hi Guys,

I would like to order the BMW helmet for K1200LT (as per attached picture), any body know where I can get? because I order from BMW agent in Hong Kong, they say stop
product already. or any latest model helmet for K1200LT, please advise.

Many Thanks.

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post #2 of 31 Old Dec 9th, 2009, 11:49 am
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Re: Helmet for K1200LT

The helmet in the photo is probably the System IV with the front bit removed. The one being marketed at the moment is the newer System VI helmet.

I think I am right in saying that all BMW helmets are manufactured by Schuberth

http://www.schuberth.com/en/home.html

http://bikerholic.com/2008/11/27/new...stem-6-helmet/
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Hi Guys,

I would like to order the BMW helmet for K1200LT (as per attached picture), any body know where I can get? because I order from BMW agent in Hong Kong, they say stop
product already. or any latest model helmet for K1200LT, please advise.

Many Thanks.

Best Regards,
Danny
That is a system IV, with the full face section removed and the cheek pads installed to make it into a nice open face. We have these, and are great in the summer, it' only take a couple of Minutes to convert 2 helmets from full face to open face.

I'm guessing a System V will do the same. And yes, they are made by Schubert.

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What are they like in Winter?

I like my Arai but it's not a winter helmet.
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Mike,

I now have a System V and I don´t think they do convert, like, as you say, my old System IV.

I have yet to see a System VI on the road.

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Re: Helmet for K1200LT

If you can settle for a genuine Schuberth, I use J1 in temperatures -5 -10 C with balaclava. No problems. Vey nice helmet IMHO.
http://www.schuberth.com/en/products/motorrad/j1.html

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Yep the BMW helmet is a Schuberth. A lot of people say they are the best helmets in the world, I won't disagree it is a good helmet, but I never thought it was worth the money. I think Nolan's are just as good and half the price. Arai makes a good helmet too, but they seem unreasonably expensive too.

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Nolon also makes the convertable helmets so you can configure it the way you want.

http://www.nolanhelmets.com/n43trilogyncom.htm

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post #9 of 31 Old Dec 9th, 2009, 7:28 pm Thread Starter
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Re: Helmet for K1200LT

Hi Guys,

Thank you for all reply and advise.

I check with the agent in Hong Kong, they say the BMW system IV is designed for K1200LT, I also feel the helmet style is very suitable for LT, I can not found half face helmet from the other brand which like the stysle of system IV, therefore any latest model
helmet is speical design for LT.

Thank you for your attention.

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If you can settle for a genuine Schuberth, I use J1 in temperatures -5 -10 C with balaclava. No problems. Vey nice helmet IMHO.
http://www.schuberth.com/en/products/motorrad/j1.html

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I've been drooling over that helmet for sometime!

I just can't seem to handle the tunnel vision any more with my full face, especially after wearing my "vintage" gold metal flake Fulmer when riding my 76 Yamaha XS650.

It is SO nice to have full peripheral vision and situational awareness again. I almost think it offsets the negative safety aspects of the open face - especially when riding in city traffic.

The Nolan N43 is high on my list too - what a great design with a removable lexan chin bar.
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Why does your K1200LT need a helmet?

Thanks,ladies and gennelmen. I'll be here all week. Drive safely and please tip your waitress.

Seriously. When I first saw the photo with the rider and passenger wearing those helmets I contacted BMW in an attempt for find out what brand they were and how I could buy one.

Someone form BMW finally responded with a brief message that the photo was taken in Europe and the helmets are not available in the US.

While riding in Canada last summer, I spotted that helmet sitting on a Gold Wing seat at a gas station. I snuck a peek at it and believe that is a Schuberth, which is not available in the US, but can be purchased in Canada.

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post #12 of 31 Old Dec 10th, 2009, 9:35 am Thread Starter
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Hi guys,

Thank you for all of your information, now I consider Nolan model N20 traffic,because I feel that style is close to system IV.

Thank you for your attention.

Best Regards,
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Hi guys,

Thank you for all of your information, now I consider Nolan model N20 traffic,because I feel that style is close to system IV.

Thank you for your attention.

Best Regards,
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Hi Simoncharles,

Thank you for your information.

But the BMW systemIV it seem not same as the photo which I attached.

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I think it is.

The System IV comes with what they call a "Jet Kit", which allows you to remove the part in front of the helmet which swings up and down, converting it into an open faced helmet.

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Here you go http://micapeak.com/bmw/gs/syst3.html
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Stay away from the BMW System V and VI helmets. I own a VI, and used to have a V. They are leaky as fuck on an LT. Fortunately I got a friendly dealer that let me exchange these leaky f*ckers three times in a row... But to no avail.

I don't know if it's the aerodynamics that cause this, but after THREE helmets I decided to give up on BMW helmets. If Schubert helmet == BMW helmet then I won't be using Schubert as well on an LT. Never had a problem with my Nolan N102 on the LT, just the BMW V and VI...

It's rediculous that a 500 euro helmet leaks from the top of the visor, as well as the air vent on top. BMW bikes are great, but the helmets are shit.
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Hi Guys,

Now I understand, thank you very much.


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I am not saying that Surfman is wrong ( don´t think I dare ! ), and yes, I have heard of the occasional complaint about the System V leaking, but I had a System IV for 8 years without a problem, now have a System V for going on 3 years without a problem and my wife has a System IV for 4 years now, also without a problem.

Do I think the V is better than the IV ?. No, not really. The IV was and is a great helmet.

The only thing is that they are slightly noiser than a normal full faced helmet due to their inherent design, something which the System VI has apparently solved.

As I always use earplugs anyway, for me it isn´t a factor to take into account.
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I am not saying that Surfman is wrong ( don´t think I dare ! ), and yes, I have heard of the occasional complaint about the System V leaking, but I had a System IV for 8 years without a problem, now have a System V for going on 3 years without a problem and my wife has a System IV for 4 years now, also without a problem.

Do I think the V is better than the IV ?. No, not really. The IV was and is a great helmet.

The only thing is that they are slightly noiser than a normal full faced helmet due to their inherent design, something which the System VI has apparently solved.

As I always use earplugs anyway, for me it isn´t a factor to take into account.

Oh yes, I feel the style of IV is very match K1200LT. The BMW catalog also use the helmet IV to match the style of LT.
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Yes that is true, but don´t forget that when the cataloge was designed and printed the System IV was their latest and newest helmet.
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But even letest catalog of 2009 LT also use this helmet, right.
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Just bought a Shuberth C3. Not tried it yet though - HID install is part way though.

I hope it's as good as the reviews, it was eye wateringly expensive.

So far it doesn't steam up if you seal it all up and breath on the visor.
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Danny,

I think I am right in saying that BMW use the same photos in all their LT brochures, whatever the model year. The only thing they change are the bikes characteristics if they have been modified from one year to another. If they have used a photo of a newer model they probably use the same helmet.

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I see, Thank you very much for the reply.


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Just to make sure I have looked for and found the LT catalogue. The latest one has pictures of the latest model. The helmet used in all of the photos is defintely a converted System IV although strangely enough they show the System V as the helmet to buy. This is probably due to the fact that when the photos were shot, possibly in 2004, the System V was not available. They must have added it to the brochure at a later date.

Also they must have used the open version of the System IV as it looks more "fun", you can see the girl smiling etc, and probably most important of all, the System IV as it was designed is not legal in the USA where the photos were shot.

Here is the link I used to find the catalouge. Couldn´t find it anywhere else.

http://www.bmw-motorrad.es/es/es/index.html

click "motocicletas" then "K1200LT" then "Descarga de catalogos"

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But even letest catalog of 2009 LT also use this helmet, right.
Th eexact sem phot was also sued in their 2005 brochure as wll.

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If you can settle for a genuine Schuberth, I use J1 in temperatures -5 -10 C with balaclava. No problems. Vey nice helmet IMHO.
http://www.schuberth.com/en/products/motorrad/j1.html

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You can buy the BMW helmets (and many other European helmets) here. They will ship to the US, and they have a currency converter on the site to check the cost in USD.

http://www.designerhelmets.com/index.php

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