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post #1 of 8 Old May 29th, 2009, 7:34 pm Thread Starter
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Hi all;

This might be a stupid question but, why do all BMW's lean so far over on the side stand???

Why BMW does not add 1 to 2" to the lenght of the side stand to reduce the lean and the weight on the side stand??

Have been wanting to ask this since I had my 93 K 1100 LT ( recently sold)!!

I am sure I will get a proper response!!!.

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Re: Maybe a stupid question, Side Stand angle??

Less height = lower impact speed when it falls over?

I'm thinking the H-Ds have steeper parking angles. I've always thought my LT was much more upright on the sidestand than many I've noticed. I always park with a "hockey puck" under the foot when on asphalt.

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The ground you park on may not always be level.
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Re: Maybe a stupid question, Side Stand angle??

One thing I have learned from owning six BMW's is that the German engineers know what they're doing,
it may not be obvious at first but "in time" you'll understand.

Personally I think the lean angle is right where it should be,
if I want my LT to "stand up" straight I'll use the centerstand.

There are a few things that can affect the "lean angle"
other than uneven pavement,
one thing that comes to mind is rear shock adjustment, or even tire pressure.
I noticed that with Ohlins the bike sits a little higher and leans a little more.

If it bothers you just add a little pad to the bottom of the sidestand.


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Re: Maybe a stupid question, Side Stand angle??

Well I put this on and am very pleased with it:

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/mm5...=K1200RSPORT-X

Gives about a 1/4 to height for less lean and significantly increases the side stand foot print.

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Re: Maybe a stupid question, Side Stand angle??

Park next to a Harley and look at both from behind. The Harley will be leaning over farther than the LT.

It "feels" like more due to the higher CG.

The side stand length is designed to allow for different tire diameters from new to worn, slight differences in shock "sag", and slight ground level differences and still allow a reasonable lean range for the bike.

Try this: On a level surface put a 1/2" board under the stand and you will see that it is then probably too upright, and in danger of wind blowing it over to the right.

Like most here, I rarely ever used the side stand except for getting off the bike and for fueling it. Always parked it on the centerstand, as it is far more stable than on the side stand, also, you don't have to worry about it rolling forward and off the stand if you forget to put it in low gear first.

Some use a "Fat Foot" plate which fastens to the foot of the sidestand to give it more surface area for softer surfaces. That little bit will also cause the bike to lean less.

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Re: Maybe a stupid question, Side Stand angle??

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Park next to a Harley and look at both from behind. The Harley will be leaning over farther than the LT.

It "feels" like more due to the higher CG.

The side stand length is designed to allow for different tire diameters from new to worn, slight differences in shock "sag", and slight ground level differences and still allow a reasonable lean range for the bike.

Try this: On a level surface put a 1/2" board under the stand and you will see that it is then probably too upright, and in danger of wind blowing it over to the right.

Like most here, I rarely ever used the side stand except for getting off the bike and for fueling it. Always parked it on the centerstand, as it is far more stable than on the side stand, also, you don't have to worry about it rolling forward and off the stand if you forget to put it in low gear first.

Some use a "Fat Foot" plate which fastens to the foot of the sidestand to give it more surface area for softer surfaces. That little bit will also cause the bike to lean less.
Especially when leaned over in a corner. Another bit to give them photographers a fireworks show.

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Re: Maybe a stupid question, Side Stand angle??

Well I ride aggressive enough for me and I don't scrape it. I do hit/scrape the center stand now and again but I don't hit/scrape the side stand.

The link I posted will help in the lean and enlarge the surface area of the side stand.

Up to the individuals riding style if the are going to scrape it. Me, I will never get close enough to worry about it.

Does everyone drag knees riding an LT?

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