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What is the easeist way to replace the air filter on a K1200LT. I have had my 2002 K1200LT for almost a year and I have not replaced it because I have not found any good instructions. I also found a friend of mine that has not replaced his air filter in over 3 years. So any help would probably be assisting a couple of LT riders. Thanks

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Re: Air Filter Replacement for 2002 K1200LT

You have to remove the gas tank, cold beer and a little rock & roll and your done. Do a search "replacing air filter". You'll find all the info you need...

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You have to remove the gas tank...
That's why it's nice to have the air filter and fuel filter on the same replacement schedule. You have to take the gas tank off to get at the fuel filter.

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It's a fairly time consuming job, one that should be done with other jobs as in a 12K service. You have to pull both upper fairings , radio (stingray), seat frame, gas tank.
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Just sell the bike!

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As others say, you need to take off the tupperware and the radio stingray. Not a bad procedure at all, you should learn how to do it anyway, takes a couple of hours to take off and put back together.

There are 3 tricks:

* Learn how to knock off and reinstall mirrors. Search this site for instructions if unsure. Good occasion to add safety cables to mirrors if you do not have them already.

* Use baggies or envelopes to store and sort fasteners (there are well over 20 pcs involved). Mark the locations. The general rule is: short ones go through one layer of plastic into engine or frame. Long ones go through two layers of plastic.

* After you undo the stingray, you may be able to just lift up the tank to get to the filter, without actually taking it off the bike. But I found it easier to completely remove. By the way, try to avoid having a full tank: heavy!

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Not sure if you'll pick this info up during your review process, butt.... after you remove the fuel tank, DON'T temporarily store it in a warm place, or in direct sunlight. Under those conditions, the tank material has a tendency to distort just enough to make reinstallation a 'cusser'!! Also, at reinstallation, if you install the right-side lower seat bracket bolt finger tight first, the others will take a set just a leetle smoother. And while you're doing all this, now is a good time to install the fuel line metal quick-disconnects - after carefully removing all of the plastic OEM parts/pieces from the lines.

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Re: Air Filter Replacement for 2002 K1200LT

Here's a related question in reference to fuel filter disconnects. For those who purchased used, how can you tell if the fuel filter has the metal quick disconnects without totally stripping the big girl?

Right now, either you order the kit and potentially find out you wasted your money, or you wait until the kit ships to put her back together.

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Here's a related question in reference to fuel filter disconnects. For those who purchased used, how can you tell if the fuel filter has the metal quick disconnects without totally stripping the big girl?

Right now, either you order the kit and potentially find out you wasted your money, or you wait until the kit ships to put her back together.
The stock quick disconnects are made of plastic so chances are yours are made of plastic unless the previous owner replaced them.
The only way to find out for sure is to remove the right side panel. I cannot think of another way as things are very tight in there.
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Re: Air Filter Replacement for 2002 K1200LT

how many QD's does one need for a typical install? I've already taken most of the fwd tupperware off my bike once.. If I do it again, I'd like to get all the things done at one time if I can

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Two QDs are needed. When installing, best practice is to have one M->F and the other F->M. Impossible to hook up backwards then.

Order them from beemer boneyard and a few other retailers. Some options should show up at the bottom of this page under "Similar Threads".

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Re: Air Filter Replacement for 2002 K1200LT

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how many QD's does one need for a typical install? I've already taken most of the fwd tupperware off my bike once.. If I do it again, I'd like to get all the things done at one time if I can
You need 2 male couplings and 2 female couplings, along with 2 O-rings. A&S BMW sells them.

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Re: Air Filter Replacement for 2002 K1200LT

The good news is that Beemer Boneyard's kit has all the pieces you need to replace the quick disconnects. I'll just have to pop the right panel so that I know what I need to do when that time comes.

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Re: Air Filter Replacement for 2002 K1200LT

I did replace the air filter once with out disconnecting the tank. I held the tank up while someone else slipped the air filter in. But I ended up removing it all the way to replace the fuel filter though. So there you have it for what its worth.

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Ok - lets see. Pay $100 for replacement brass QD or - - - - - - - $1.68 for brass connector from plumbing supply. To replace the plastic QD you need to crimp the gas line - that took 10 seconds. Incidentally, removing the plastic QD from the line is NOT a pleasurable task.

Hmmm, without a QD, every time you need to remove the gas tank you will need to crimp the gas line - 10 seconds. I guess the inconvenience will depend on how many times you plan on removing the tank.
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Hmmm, without a QD, every time you need to remove the gas tank you will need to crimp the gas line - 10 seconds. I guess the inconvenience will depend on how many times you plan on removing the tank.
One reason I never installed them on my 2000LT. Just crimp the fuel lines. And I have never have to worry about the QD's leaking.

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You need 2 male couplings and 2 female couplings, along with 2 O-rings. A&S BMW sells them.
Buy extra o-rings; keep some in your side cases, particularly when taking it to the dealer for service or DIY service.

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One reason I never installed them on my 2000LT. Just crimp the fuel lines. And I have never have to worry about the QD's leaking.

Can i just run a straight fuel line without brass connectors to the tank or would the line be to saggy. Just bought a 2001 K1200lt; been working on it for a while. Just got the tank off.
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Can i just run a straight fuel line without brass connectors to the tank or would the line be to saggy. Just bought a 2001 K1200lt; been working on it for a while. Just got the tank off.
You need a connector of some kind, whether the quick-disconnect or the coupling. Once you try to remove the tank you'll see why. You need to be able to "break" the fuel line, with one side going to the fuel rail, and the other going to the fuel pump.
When you remove the tank you need a way to stop fuel from flowing out. The QDs work great and are easy to use, without the QDs you need a way to squeeze the fuel line; vise-grips and 2 pennies work great PER hose (you have to stop fuel on 2 hoses).

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What is the easiest way to replace the air filter on a K1200LT. I have had my 2002 K1200LT for almost a year and I have not replaced it because I have not found any good instructions. I also found a friend of mine that has not replaced his air filter in over 3 years. So any help would probably be assisting a couple of LT riders. Thanks
While I have the gas tank off to replace all the radiator hoses on my '02, I decided to take the opportunity to replace the air filter with 24K. Other than some color fading the element looked like new. Considering what you have to do to get at the air filter, I wouldn't rush to replace it alone.

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I enjoy maintenance just like the rest of you. However, I own a 2000LT my friend (not a gear head) owns a 2001LT. He does nothing as far as maintenance. He occasionally brings the bike to the BNW dealer on their Saturday quick lube day. He has only returned to the dealer for tires. 40,000 miles not one problem not one. Do you'all think that maybe just maybe we baby this machine to much.

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I'm right in the middle of this. Got the quick disconnects on. I used a small flat screwdriver and worked it in between the hose & old connector. Clamped the old connector with a pair of vice grips & worked it back & forth. Came right off on the first one. The second one broke just as soon as I out a little pressure on the line to pull it out to where I could work on it. Seems like a failure wasn't too far away on that one. Had to use needle-nose pliers to get the piece out of the fuel line. (there was some wailing & gnashing of teeth with that)
Found a huge mouse nest on the upper left side of the gas tank. (no mice) I need to keep more de-con out there. I have an old single car garage out away from the house that is now my motorcycle maven. Sure glad I got a lift for Christmas. I also put a little lithium grease around the male part of the new connectors for hopefully a little easier disconnect the next time. Not sure if this was necessary or not.

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One reason I never installed them on my 2000LT. Just crimp the fuel lines. And I have never have to worry about the QD's leaking.


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Here's a related question in reference to fuel filter disconnects. For those who purchased used, how can you tell if the fuel filter has the metal quick disconnects without totally stripping the big girl?

Right now, either you order the kit and potentially find out you wasted your money, or you wait until the kit ships to put her back together.

Just for clarification, all of the answers are directed at the Fuel TANK whereas you asked about the FILTER.

I'm just saying...

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I too am about to change air & fuel filters. Never removed tupperware before. Do I need any special tools? Where is best deal to buy air filter,fuel filter, & spark plugs? Is it necessary to buy any other crush washers or O-rings? Can fuel lines be disconnected & replaced without buying new connectors?
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You need 2. Racer parts wholesale has a good set.

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I too am about to change air & fuel filters. Never removed tupperware before. Do I need any special tools? Where is best deal to buy air filter,fuel filter, & spark plugs? Is it necessary to buy any other crush washers or O-rings? Can fuel lines be disconnected & replaced without buying new connectors?
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I too am about to change air & fuel filters. Never removed tupperware before. Do I need any special tools? Where is best deal to buy air filter,fuel filter, & spark plugs? Is it necessary to buy any other crush washers or O-rings? Can fuel lines be disconnected & replaced without buying new connectors?
Special tools: Not required, but I find it much easier now that I have a T25 screwdriver type. Heck of a lot easier than doing it with an L style wrench.

I picked up my filters on Amazon although beemerboneyard sells them.
Air Filter: MAHLE LX 1710 Air Filter
Fuel Filter: MAHLE KL 145 Fuel Filter
I went with Denso 5375 Spark Plugs but won't do that again. I found they have shorter insulators than the Bosch and although the plug wire caps work, I don't like the way they 'feel'.
If you want to save money on the fuel filter, you can get a NAPA Gold for less.
If you are careful on removing the fuel filter clamps, they can be reused. I bit the bullet and picked up a pack of the Oetiker 15400035 Stainless Steel Hose Clamps.

While you have the tank off, you want to take a look at the quick disconnects on the fuel lines going to the fuel injector rail. If it has plastic quick disconnects for both the male and female, you will want to replace at least the male side with a metal one since they are known to crack.

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HA HA HA, the OP said "easy", very funny! BMW, Easy, never.

Seriously, it is not that hard. to add to what all the others have said, be sure to replace the in-tank fuel line also. It is a know weakness and can leave you on the side of the road. I ordered my 24K service kit from Beemer Boneyard and could not be happier, everything in one kit and the price is less than if I collected the parts myself. I also got the fuel line from Euro Moto Electrics, it was around $15.
Do yourself a favor and get the parts, do it all at once, you need to do it anyway and this will save you from taking it apart 3-4 times. Check your QD's also, replace or remove if plastic.

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Special tools: Not required, but I find it much easier now that I have a T25 screwdriver type. Heck of a lot easier than doing it with an L style wrench.

I picked up my filters on Amazon although beemerboneyard sells them.
Air Filter: MAHLE LX 1710 Air Filter
Fuel Filter: MAHLE KL 145 Fuel Filter
I went with Denso 5375 Spark Plugs but won't do that again. I found they have shorter insulators than the Bosch and although the plug wire caps work, I don't like the way they 'feel'.
If you want to save money on the fuel filter, you can get a NAPA Gold for less.
If you are careful on removing the fuel filter clamps, they can be reused. I bit the bullet and picked up a pack of the Oetiker 15400035 Stainless Steel Hose Clamps.

While you have the tank off, you want to take a look at the quick disconnects on the fuel lines going to the fuel injector rail. If it has plastic quick disconnects for both the male and female, you will want to replace at least the male side with a metal one since they are known to crack.
I think I would stick with a MAHLE Fuel Filter because I think somebody on this forum said it could not handle the fuel presure

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I think I would stick with a MAHLE Fuel Filter because I think somebody on this forum said it could not handle the fuel presure
I agree that we should NOT be using NAPA or WIX fuel-filters on the K1200 (inside tank).
The warning you are referring to is from DAVE (Saddleman) in this thread:
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