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Electric Shifter: Anybody Interested?

All, I've been speaking with Pingel about a shifter for my VTX (drag racing that is) and they noted they just released one for the Goldwing crowd. Ref: http://www.pingelonline.com/eshifter_goldwing.htm

My question is..would you all like to see one for the LT?

For those that don't know how these work...there is small bracket mounted to the inside of your left handgrip with two buttons. The upper one is for upshifting and the lower one is for downshifting. When you are ready to shift, motor at the desired rpm, you depress the upshift button and the unit will send a disrupt signal to the coils thus allowing the tranny gears time to synch up such that the unit will move the tranny into the next gear safely without letting off the throttle.

They have a universal setup that will work today. What I'd like them to do is build a specific setup for our LT that is a direct bolt on.
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When you get too lazy to shift gears manually -get a Buick
Drag bike or racing bike OK- not for street-I know
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When you get too lazy to shift gears manually -get a Buick
Drag bike or racing bike OK- not for street-I know
Just a little food for thought . . . there just MIGHT be a few older, or injured, or handicapped people that would find this mod VERY "helpful".

However; like you, I do not see the average Joe needing this mod. And if racing's your game, I would want a quickshifter. Not a manually-operated electric hickymajigger doo-dad.

And just so you don't misunderstand me...I am not offended by your post. I just don't think you thought through all the possible uses for this add-on.

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When you get too lazy to shift gears manually -get a Buick
Drag bike or racing bike OK- not for street-I know

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So I shouldn't consider putting one of these on a 4-wheeler or dirtbike for my handicapped son? Thanks for the heads-up. I'll tell him to quit being "lazy". .....
Joe, Joe, Joe.....JUST a bit over-the-top with that one. We both know that's not what he meant.


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I apologize if I offended anyone.Not my intention.Any mods for disabled or handicapped I applaud, but that was not mentioned in you post.Drag racing IS my cup of tea but we use MSD ignition and revlimiters with air and electric shifters.Like I said I didnt mean a thing disrespectful to anyone.If I comment or post on this board and have to dodge the flaming I guess I need to go somewhere else.
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And just so you don't misunderstand me...I am not offended by your post.
I don't think I could've been any more clear than that. I am the UNOFFENDABLE! And I didn't mean to offend you. Just trying to stir up a little thought as to whom could be interested in such a mod.

As for you Billy...shut up!
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Joe, Joe, Joe.....JUST a bit over-the-top with that one. We both know that's not what he meant.
Post edited. Sorry if I came across too harshly. I didn't mean to...honest!
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All, I've been speaking with Pingel about a shifter for my VTX (drag racing that is) and they noted they just released one for the Goldwing crowd. Ref: http://www.pingelonline.com/eshifter_goldwing.htm

My question is..would you all like to see one for the LT?

They have a universal setup that will work today. What I'd like them to do is build a specific setup for our LT that is a direct bolt on.
Sure would solve the continuing problem of quality control w/ the clutch slave cylinder…

Of course that would reduce the possibility of slave cylinder failure by 80% since the OEM clutch set-up would only be used for first gear. Not to mention saving money for biennial clutch repairs.
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I apologize if I offended anyone.Not my intention.Any mods for disabled or handicapped I applaud, but that was not mentioned in you post.Drag racing IS my cup of tea but we use MSD ignition and revlimiters with air and electric shifters.Like I said I didnt mean a thing disrespectful to anyone.If I comment or post on this board and have to dodge the flaming I guess I need to go somewhere else.

Bill, don't think nothing about the flames, with 6000+ members, you mention watermelon or ice cream and someone will shoot a flaming arrow at you!!!
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When you get too lazy to shift gears manually -get a Buick
Drag bike or racing bike OK- not for street-I know

I know you meant this in jest, but there are many handi cap that need this type of setup, I have built several bikes set up for disabled riders, we actullyhad one unit that would find neutral

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When I get lazy I get fat .Cant afford that
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I think its interesting....foot shifting in traffic (like on I-40 duh) when on a trip totally sucks, and it really wrecks my cool looking boots (cause I don't use those nifty but UGLY A-- boots like some of you BMW guys use). More info if you please....sounds like it might eliminate some other mechanical issues further down the road too that I hav'nt had to deal with yet.....

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Ya know, I gotta wonder if the fancy computo brain of an LT would tolerate an interuption of the ignition coils like that.

I'd think I'd like to know such an electric shift woldn't frag my MCU first.

Any thoughts?

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Why not a full automatic - modern auto boxes are light years ahead of where they were even a few years ago. My BMW 328i has a 5 speed auto with a 'winter' mode for changing up at lower revs and a 'sport' mode which will only change up at the redline if you keep the throttle down.

I reckon it changes gear as well or better than I could manage in a manual.
The greatest benefit is in stop and go traffic. On the freeway you hardly change gear at all anyway.

I'll never buy another car with a manual box.

The only disadvantage I can see is that you cannot 'slip' the clutch for fast take-off. But we don't do that on an LT anyway
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All, I've been speaking with Pingel about a shifter for my VTX (drag racing that is) and they noted they just released one for the Goldwing crowd. Ref: http://www.pingelonline.com/eshifter_goldwing.htm

My question is..would you all like to see one for the LT?

For those that don't know how these work...there is small bracket mounted to the inside of your left handgrip with two buttons. The upper one is for upshifting and the lower one is for downshifting. When you are ready to shift, motor at the desired rpm, you depress the upshift button and the unit will send a disrupt signal to the coils thus allowing the tranny gears time to synch up such that the unit will move the tranny into the next gear safely without letting off the throttle.

They have a universal setup that will work today. What I'd like them to do is build a specific setup for our LT that is a direct bolt on.
Al: all options are good. This will not be a strange optional item in a few years. I say yes. Jim
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post #18 of 19 Old Jan 17th, 2006, 2:31 pm Thread Starter
 
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Should Pingel decide to make a out of box fit version, they would need a local LT to work with. The are located in Adams Wi. 53910. Do we have anyone nearby there?
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Ya know, I gotta wonder if the fancy computo brain of an LT would tolerate an interuption of the ignition coils like that.

I'd think I'd like to know such an electric shift woldn't frag my MCU first.

Any thoughts?
I have to believe not. It is not feeding back any energy to the computer and certainly doesn't have any inputs to it.
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