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post #1 of 15 Old Jan 26th, 2009, 11:19 am Thread Starter
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Warning fuel hose popping off!

She let me down, but I was only a half of mile from home. Have you tried pushing her half a mile.

I knew it was fuel related. So I pulled the plastic and tank off (got to where I can do this in about 15 minutes) and found that the fuel filter hose had popped off.

I did a search and find that this happens often.

No warning just shut down, like I had turned the key off.
Iím just glad I was close to home and not in traffic on the interstate.
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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

We seem to have had a rash of these lately...


Glad you're ok...

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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

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We seem to have had a rash of these lately...


Glad you're ok...

John
I agree John, I've seen 3 or 4 threads in the last few weeks. I'm wandering what the common denominator is? Old hose, poor clamp, clamps not installed correct or tightened enough?? Enquiring minds want to know.

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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

this happened to me a couple years ago. Stopped dead.

The filter is held on from the factory by crimped clamps. Those normally work. My dealer had tried to do the same, using the specialized tool required to crimp the clamps. One end fell off. Instant show stopper.

Our CCR tech sessions and some dealers have used stainless hose clamps that work just like any radiator clamp with the spiral screw. Properly tightened, these are the answer. It is something anyone can fix...but not on the road!

That's the way I remember it, but that's very suspect these days, so perhaps an expert will chime in.

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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

The only problem with common hose clamps is that they tend to "chew" into rubber lines over time and cause another leak.

The best solution is a lined clamp or mini-f as shown in the pictures below, available from many sources like:

http://www.fastfittings.com/page/1127232

It may even be possible to find them from a specialty fastener supplier locally that caters to the construction trades.

They usually cost a couple of bucks plus shipping, so they aren't exactly inexpensive but for peace of mind - to me - they're worth it.
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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

Ron what size are the fuel lines??? I plan on doing a 24 k mile service soon and want to buy some new hose clamps... The page you linked has a bunch of clamps for different size hoses and styles...
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Ron what size are the fuel lines??? I plan on doing a 24 k mile service soon and want to buy some new hose clamps... The page you linked has a bunch of clamps for different size hoses and styles...
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Ya know Bill - it's been years since I've been in there - maybe someone else can chime in with the metric hose size and a conversion...

You might be able to find it by doing a search on the quick connect mod.


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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

I just found some in my garage that will work seems I bought 4 of them awhile back for the 12K mile service but I didnt change out the fuel filter then so I still had them. Have know idea where I got them from I think an auto parts store.
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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

5/16 fuel injection hose clamps from NAPA auto parts are what I use. They are like the right clamp in Ron's right picture. They will not cut into the hose & they are rated for high pressure.

You need to remember worm style slotted clamps were made for carb. type hoses & water hoses with max pressure of 15 to 20 lbs.

I just replaced my fuel filter and tightened the clamps until they bottomed out. That was over 2,500 miles ago & so far no problems. I also carry spare clamps,hose & QD fittings.

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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

The one's I get at Advance Auto have 13-15mm stamped on the side. Never had one pop off yet.

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I agree John, I've seen 3 or 4 threads in the last few weeks. I'm wandering what the common denominator is? Old hose, poor clamp, clamps not installed correct or tightened enough?? Enquiring minds want to know.
Any or all of the above. We're dealing with a high pressure system, if it's not properly clamped it's going to pop off.
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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

Thanks.

I've got a filter replace coming up and was looking for something to add to a McMaster Carr order.

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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

This happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I was setting at red light and when it turned green I let out the clutch and it just died. Had to pull it home on a trailer and that was stressful in it's self. Read on here how to tie it down but it still looks strange in the rear view mirror and I could just see the LT going over in my mind. I've added an automotive oil filter wrench to get the union nut off and some hose clamps to my tool pouch.
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I agree John, I've seen 3 or 4 threads in the last few weeks. I'm wandering what the common denominator is? Old hose, poor clamp, clamps not installed correct or tightened enough?? Enquiring minds want to know.
One hting that can do it is if you've replaced the hose in the tank with auto parts store fuel injection hose. This hose, though IS for fuel injection use it is NOT for immersion in fuel. To use it in the tank it must be SAE 30R10 rated hose. The stuff at the auto parts store is SAE 30R9 and it WILL breakdown in a short time.
Ever wonder why the hoses for the bike are expensive? IF you can find SAE 30R10 hose it is $20/foot. There is only one company that makes it.
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Re: Warning fuel hose popping off!

Dumb question here, but did anyone try their dealer? When I purchased mine the dealer sold me stainless steel clamps made for the fuel filter. They were not the "screw" type or crimp style. I think it was the mini-F style clamp.

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