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post #1 of 76 Old Jan 25th, 2009, 4:00 pm Thread Starter
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Cool Jensen solution to dead channel factory radio

My 03 'LT stock radio droped the left channel, heard this before?
I wanted not only all four channels to work but also get an integrated IPOD solution so that I could pull the disc changer.
Enter the Jensen MSR2007 marine audio system!
The plus side is a $150 solution that has IPOD control, AM/FM(x3) and Sirius radio capability.
The down side are the OEM remotes will not work, and I hacked the wiring harness.
With minor mods to the radio housing, I think that this is a clean and very functional alternative.
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great job, how is the sound?
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Really a great looking install & solution to a problem. Looks like not having the handle bar controls is not a real big issue with the radio out like you have.
And I guess if you had the factory VOICE system you can always go to bluetooth.

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Sweet install. Is that remote controller waterproof, or are we gonna read "the rest of the story" the first time it rains?

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Looks Good.

The controller is rated IPX6 which is water resistant like the Garmin 26 -2800 series, while the amp box is IPX5 or waterproof. Too bad it is not the other way round.

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Nice Job!
Can you post what wiring mods you had to do to complete the setup?
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Looks like a perfect solution to an otherwise very expensive solution.

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Re: Jensen solution to dead channel factory radio

Hey thanks for the rave reviews.

When I researched the difference between IPX5 and IPX6 it was a wash!!
Did BMW stepup to the marine standards for the factory control unit???
Anyway the sound is very good, and the Jensen has selectable EQ modes.
I didn't mention the additional AUX RCA jacks that are part of the cable bundle. As far as the actual harness mods they are very straight forward, power comes from the dash board connection, front speakers are on a separate connector, and the rear speakers are on on their own connector.
The radio comes with a "plug-in" connector for the interface to the vehicle.
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Ya know, I usually don't like the "me, too" posts. But, this time I just can't help myself.

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Don't get me wrong but my stock radio has worked flawlessly for five years so you know which side of lucky I am on! It is only a matter of time before those rubber buttons crack and let the water in. I am hoping mine craps out so I have justification to do the Jensen Mod.

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IPX5 is rated for Water Jets: Water projected by a nozzle against enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.

IPX6 is rated for Powerful Water Jets: Water projected in powerful jets against the enclosure from any direction shall have no harmful effects.

So it looks like you're good to go there.

Having true iPod control is a bonus (as is saving several hundred dollars over a factory replacement).

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Ya know, I usually don't like the "me, too" posts. But, this time I just can't help myself.

What a beauty job you did there! Good onya.
ME TOO! I love it!

Grif, I volunteer my bike for a prototype install during the next tech session. You think we can tackle that? Mine is still working OK. I like the I pod and integrated Sat radio.

Labman is the MSR 2007 all I need to buy? Sounds too good to be true.

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great job, how is the sound?


I figured you were gonna jump into this thread!!!

So...when are we installing yours?????

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ME TOO! I love it!

Grif, I volunteer my bike for a prototype install during the next tech session. You think we can tackle that? Mine is still working OK. I like the I pod and integrated Sat radio.

Labman is the MSR 2007 all I need to buy? Sounds too good to be true.
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I figured you were gonna jump into this thread!!!

So...when are we installing yours?????

Jack, I figure this will give you something to do for a few days in our "way too cold to ride" weather we are having right now

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Yo Wolfgang, the basic package is the wired remote "commander" and the radio.
See the attachment for the rest of the goodies.

There are two other "operational" issues that I need to mention.
First, the LED is blue operational, and at night may be distractive to some.
Second, the display has the typical LED "wash-out" from the normal riding position. Leaning forward to decrease the viewing angle, brings the display into clear view.

Also, the receiver cable bundle exits at a downward 90degree angle. I felt like I had two options to fit it into the radio box.
1 turn it sideways and cut a new hole in the left side of the box, or
2 modify the receiver mounting plate, and use the existing radio box whole out the back.

I chose #2, and modified the receiver cable bundle to exit straight out.
In the cable bundle picture, the coiled white cable is the 15ft IPOD cable that they sell at: http://www.hodgesmarine.com
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Exxxxxxxxxeclent job their neighbor!

Frank told me you were going to tackle the bad radio thing. I'm impressed!

I'm on my third factory radio...all replaced under warranty.

I like your solution much better.
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Yo Wolfgang, the basic package is the wired remote "commander" and the radio.
See the attachment for the rest of the goodies.

There are two other "operational" issues that I need to mention.
First, the LED is blue operational, and at night may be distractive to some.
Second, the display has the typical LED "wash-out" from the normal riding position. Leaning forward to decrease the viewing angle, brings the display into clear view.

Also, the receiver cable bundle exits at a downward 90degree angle. I felt like I had two options to fit it into the radio box.
1 turn it sideways and cut a new hole in the left side of the box, or
2 modify the receiver mounting plate, and use the existing radio box whole out the back.

I chose #2, and modified the receiver cable bundle to exit straight out.
In the cable bundle picture, the coiled white cable is the 15ft IPOD cable that they sell at: http://www.hodgesmarine.com
The other thingy needed is the Sirius receiver, at about $99, correct??? Or is it build in to this model?

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I've already ordered the radio and it should be here by Friday. My bike has been apart for about 3 weeks while I was trying to deceide what kind of radio to get. This one seems perfect. I did not get the Sirus because I already have XM. I'm planning to run it into the Aux on the Jensen. This I know will be better than the BMW radio. Well just about anything would be better.......

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Wolfgang, as I listed in my attachment, not only is the Sirius receiver an add on, so is the satellite antenna. Both will run you about $150.

But come on, all built into one control head! Now that's the way to go.

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Great install! Thanks for the tip on the Jensen, the instructions and for taking the time to post the pics. I think I can live with all the downside things you pointed out for the savings on a factory unit.
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Wolfgang, as I listed in my attachment, not only is the Sirius receiver an add on, so is the satellite antenna. Both will run you about $150.

But come on, all built into one control head! Now that's the way to go.
I could not agree more! This is the cleanest way I have seen to get Satrad and I pod.
Thanks for posting this!

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Well it came today. Hope to have it going by tomorrow. It looks like a great way to go. I'll try and get a picture.
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maaan this is a sweet setup... looks factory.

two observations though.

for a marine radio to leave the weather band off the features list seems like a major gotcha. i can think of at least three times out on long rides where the NOAA receiver in the factory unit may have saved my life. imagine turning on your radio and having the first thing you hear be the NOAA alarm tone going off with a flood warning and you might share my enthusiasm. ;-)

the other thing is that i've become a real fan of flash memory for tune transport - just put a new clarion unit in my 95 ram pickup that had a generic USB port on the faceplate and the MP3 decoder built into the amp. a 8 GB flash drive costs @25 dollars - an 8 GB Ipod nano costs about $160. in this application you don't really pick up any added functionality for your 100+ bucks. ;-)

so if this bad boy had a USB input and a weather radio - it really would be PERFECT! ;-)

might shoot a quick note to jensen and wait for v 2.0 . ;-)

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Didn't finish tonight. Golf got in the way. I did get it installed in the box and the wires run out the back. Hope to put it all back together tomorrow. It looks sweet. I know it better that what was there.....
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Got it in and all hooked up. Looks great and sounds even better. ALL the speakers work. Picks up so many radio stations I can't listen to them all. Ipod works like a dream. I did not hook my XM up yet but feel like it's going to work as well. As soon as I can figure out how to post a picture I will get some. Best fix for the radio ever........

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My 03 'LT stock radio droped the left channel, heard this before?
I wanted not only all four channels to work but also get an integrated IPOD solution so that I could pull the disc changer.
Enter the Jensen MSR2007 marine audio system!
The plus side is a $150 solution that has IPOD control, AM/FM(x3) and Sirius radio capability.
The down side are the OEM remotes will not work, and I hacked the wiring harness.
With minor mods to the radio housing, I think that this is a clean and very functional alternative.
So you cut the top insert out of another material? I only ask because of the difference in your top piece and the other install shown. What did you use? I also am wondering out loud if there is any different dimensions from your 03 and a 05 on up in that space the head unit fits in?

Thanks for any info.

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I just cut the buttons off of the radio controler that was on the bike. Didn't figure I needed it sitting around collecting dust.
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So will the sat radio interface box fit under the stingray?

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I don't know how big the sat box is but I don't think it would fit in the box.
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Jack, I figure this will give you something to do for a few days in our "way too cold to ride" weather we are having right now
It gets cold here? I'll have to learn how to do the smiles.

Looks like a nice install. Does it work with the speed sensor. If not can it be modified so it will. I have never had a bike with tunes before & now i'm spoiled.

Nothing beats good quality loud tunes when riding after 24hrs with no sleep. Its not unusual for me to get up at 3:00 am & go work a full day then ride until 3 or 4 am. I always plan 1 extra day on any trip & that is one way I do it.

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Jack, I figure this will give you something to do for a few days in our "way too cold to ride" weather we are having right now
It gets cold here? I'll have to learn how to do the smiles.
I was just kidding with Jack about him not riding in the cold weather, I pretty much ride every day here to work and back at least, maybe we can meet at Jacks place sometime and you can give us some ideas while we are putting the radio in....

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That sounds good to me Mike. Just let me know when. Too much snow to ride this morning for me.

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It gets cold here? I'll have to learn how to do the smiles.
I was just kidding with Jack about him not riding in the cold weather, I pretty much ride every day here to work and back at least, maybe we can meet at Jacks place sometime and you can give us some ideas while we are putting the radio in....

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I thought this head unit looked familiar (post # 5). The installation looks great. I think I'll do the same if/when my '03 radio bites the dust.

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So you cut the top insert out of another material? I only ask because of the difference in your top piece and the other install shown. What did you use? I also am wondering out loud if there is any different dimensions from your 03 and a 05 on up in that space the head unit fits in?

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Sometimes a project just grabs you and you want to do the same thing--the look is what I'd expect from a BMW...thanks for sharing!

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I hope to get mine installed next weekend. If anyone has any tips they would be appreciated..
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Take your time. It's not hard but is time consuming. I taped my connectors to be sure they would not come undone. I soldered all my joints for a good connection. If I could figure something to make a good wedge I would make my controler sit at an angle to make the display more readable. Now you have to sit up and lean forward to read it good. I can still do it because the panel will unscrew and I have plenty of wire to make it sit at an angle. I just something to screw down fot it. If I think of anything else I'll let you know.

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Hey Mike!!!

Just finished the wiring on the Jensen for your bike! It seems to work great!!!! All the balance/fader controls work properly, so I wired it right! It'll be ready for you to come in the morning and put the tupperware back on!

I thought I'd post a pic of the trim Mike and I used on this install. Thought some of you might enjoy them. We used a piece of black, rubber automotive door trim to clean-up the edge where the stingray meets the radio. (Don't worry Mike, that's NOT a scratch on the top...just a small smear of Gorilla Snot). The install went well, but was quite time-consuming. We took a number of pictures and will post some later.
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Just finished the wiring on the Jenson for your bike! It seems to work great!!!! It'll be ready for you to come in the morning and put the tupperware back on!

I thought I'd post a pic of the trim Mike and I used on this install. We used a piece of automotive door trim to clean-up the edge where the stingray meets the radio. Thought some of you might enjoy them. The install went well, but was time-consuming.
Very Nice! That finishes it nicely.

Might need to start Internet shopping for that unit.

What is the time in? Mating wires and soldering/shrink wrapping? How tuff to cut the buttons out?

I think the tits would be to get it on a wedge, some mounting bracket that has a nice plate to fit in that button area.

Well as you guys refine it, all of you, if you can get it to self install, I am all in

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Very Nice! That finishes it nicely.

Might need to start Internet shopping for that unit.

What is the time in? Mating wires and soldering/shrink wrapping? How tuff to cut the buttons out?

I think the tits would be to get it on a wedge, some mounting bracket that has a nice plate to fit in that button area.

Well as you guys refine it, all of you, if you can get it to self install, I am all in
It took Mike and myself a good 5-6 hours...taking our time to "Measure TWICE and cut ONCE" .

The wiring is fairly straight forward, but fairly extensive. I did solder all connections and shrink wrap most of them. I also eliminated all but one of the old BMW connectors as they tend to cause problems. I eliminated the BMW speaker connectors and left only the "power connector". The third pic shows the elimination of the "first" connector. I did the same on a couple of others. It was "tight" soldering in that area...and lots of fun soldering and using a heat gun directly on top of a FUEL TANK

We did have to modify the amplifier to get it to fit in the box, trimming the mounting flanges off both sides and then using industrial strength velcro to secure it. It's mounted solid.

We looked at getting it on a "wedge" to improve the sight lines, but the problem is that the back of the control unit has a gasket to ensure the "waterproof" integrity of the unit and if you didn't mount it flush to the stingray, water would simply go around the control unit, down into the stingray right into and on the amplifier/radio unit.

It was easy cutting the buttons out/off of the stingray...I posted a pic of the cuts we made. We used a hacksaw to make the initial cut and then Mike used the bench grinder to smooth the edges and reach final dimensions.


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Great job you guys My radio still works fine, but I went through this same type issue with OEM radio cost on my Cavalcade. I'm thinking about buying the Jensen unit just to have it on a shelf on standby in case mine fails. The best price I'm seeing is $159.00, is that about right? I'm afraid this solution may disappear in the next couple years.

The one thing I would want to do differently is to wire up waterproof Deutsch, or other, connectors. Does anyone see why installing connectors would be a problem? Maybe even consolidating everything into one multi pin connector?

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Great job you guys My radio still works fine, but I went through this same type issue with OEM radio cost on my Cavalcade. I'm thinking about buying the Jensen unit just to have it on a shelf on standby in case mine fails. The best price I'm seeing is $159.00, is that about right? I'm afraid this solution may disappear in the next couple years.

The one thing I would want to do differently is to wire up waterproof Deutsch, or other, connectors. Does anyone see why installing connectors would be a problem? Maybe even consolidating everything into one multi pin connector?

The price sounds right John, if nothing they might follow with a better version of this radio in a few years, but for now it is a much cheaper version to stick in the dinosaur.

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Great job you guys My radio still works fine, but I went through this same type issue with OEM radio cost on my Cavalcade. I'm thinking about buying the Jensen unit just to have it on a shelf on standby in case mine fails. The best price I'm seeing is $159.00, is that about right? I'm afraid this solution may disappear in the next couple years.

The one thing I would want to do differently is to wire up waterproof Deutsch, or other, connectors. Does anyone see why installing connectors would be a problem? Maybe even consolidating everything into one multi pin connector?

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Actually everything is wired through one cental, multipin connector that plugs into the back front of the unit near the front of the stingray. Here's a pic. You simply unplug this connector and the stingray lifts right off. Much easier than before.

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Actually everything is wired through one cental, multipin connector that plugs into the back front of the unit near the front of the stingray. Here's a pic. You simply unplug this connector and the stingray lifts right off. Much easier than before.

YOU DIDN'T ACTUALLY THINK I WOULD PERMANENTLY SOLDER THE STINGRAY ON...NOW DID YA??????
Naaah, not for more than a second. I haven't worked with an aftermarket radio in forever, and wasn't sure what kind of harnesses they come with.

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I just rode to the BMWNEF ralley and was most pleased to listen to music all the way. Never did quit. Rained on and worked great. Everyone who has a radio not working would love to have this!! I happy as can be with it.

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