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A friend of mine just picked up an '09 and hasn't registered here yet, (I'm working on him).

He says that he has three positions on his ignition: "off", "r" & "on". When he puts the key in the "r" position, he can take the key out, but the dash lights stay on. In order to get the lights to go out, and still take the key out, he needs to put it in the "off" position, which requires the handlebars to be in the correct position to be locked.

I don't remeber it being that way on my '01. Have they made changes on the newer modles?

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That is the way my 2005 is.
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A friend of mine just picked up an '09 and hasn't registered here yet, (I'm working on him).

He says that he has three positions on his ignition: "off", "r" & "on". When he puts the key in the "r" position, he can take the key out, but the dash lights stay on. In order to get the lights to go out, and still take the key out, he needs to put it in the "off" position, which requires the handlebars to be in the correct position to be locked.

I don't remeber it being that way on my '01. Have they made changes on the newer modles?

TIA
My 2000 has 4 positions from right to left or counter-clock wise.
there in on (Bike starts)
next R motor off radio and map lights on
then off everything off handlebars locked
last far left position headlights and accessories on but not radio & will not start

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Re: New owner ?: key position

My 2009 is the same way too. The whole "locking the bars to remove the key to unlock the gas cap" is kinda a PITA but what the heck. Must be a German thing.

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Re: New owner ?: key position

Thanks for the info.

I've already forwarded him the instructions for modifying the gas cap so it can stay unlocked.

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My 2000 has 4 positions from right to left or counter-clock wise.
there in on (Bike starts)
next R motor off radio and map lights on
then off everything off handlebars locked
last far left position headlights and accessories on but not radio & will not start
Ole Toad's '99 ignition layout, which should match your previous LT, George:

On = ignition and all electrical circuits switched on (engine will start with starter button).

R = Ignition off; key can be removed

OFF = ignition off, steering locked

P = Parking light on, steering locked

Not sure how the radio player works on the '09, butt when the key is in the 'ON' or the 'R' position, ole Toad can play tunes. Other positions - nada.
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Re: New owner ?: key position

The "R" position does indeed turn on the dash light and also the lights under the wings. They stay on for about 30 seconds and then fade out. It also allows the trunk light to turn on when the trunk is opened. I routinely only use this position on my 2005LT and just have to remember to turn off the "on" radio button on the console to ensure that the battery won't run down overnight. This key position is also useful so you can charge the battery through the BMW plug instead of having to attach directly to the battery leads. The only time I lock the steering is when it is parked in public somewhere for extended time such as when I'm at work. At least that's how things seem to work with mine. I hope this helps
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My battery tender appears (by the lights) to charge when the forks are locked.

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If you use the BMW plug on the lower left fairing your Battery Tender will work just fine in any position, including bars locked. If you use the plug on the trunk you will need to turn power on to make the connection. The lower left one is wired hot at all times, while the rear one is powered through the ignition switch.

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The "R" position does indeed turn on the dash light and also the lights under the wings. They stay on for about 30 seconds and then fade out. It also allows the trunk light to turn on when the trunk is opened. I routinely only use this position on my 2005LT and just have to remember to turn off the "on" radio button on the console to ensure that the battery won't run down overnight. This key position is also useful so you can charge the battery through the BMW plug instead of having to attach directly to the battery leads. The only time I lock the steering is when it is parked in public somewhere for extended time such as when I'm at work. At least that's how things seem to work with mine. I hope this helps

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That's was exactly how I had understood it.

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Re: New owner ?: key position

As a follow up to this thread, will the battery drain if you leave put the key in the "r" position and extract the key? I am shipping my bike and the shipper needs to be able to move the bike (have forks in unlocked position). AS I see it, the only way I can do that is if I leave the switch in the "r" position. I am afraid that the bike will arrive at the destination with a dead battery if I leave it in the "r" position. Takes about 7 to 10 days for shipping. Other alternative is to give the shipper the key. Not the best option.

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It should be fine just shut off the radio before shutting off the engine. If you are really worried disconnect the Battery negative terminal.

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As a follow up to this thread, will the battery drain if you leave put the key in the "r" position and extract the key? I am shipping my bike and the shipper needs to be able to move the bike (have forks in unlocked position). AS I see it, the only way I can do that is if I leave the switch in the "r" position. I am afraid that the bike will arrive at the destination with a dead battery if I leave it in the "r" position. Takes about 7 to 10 days for shipping. Other alternative is to give the shipper the key. Not the best option.

Thanks

You should be ok so long as the shippers do not decide to fool with the radio and whistle whistle they work. You may also want to consider pulling some strategic fuses but I believe shippment of the bike does require disconnecting the battery anyway.

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It should be fine just shut off the radio before shutting off the engine. If you are really worried disconnect the Battery negative terminal.

On my 2007, I leave the key in the "r" position and the radio turns off by itself in about 30 seconds. When I start the bike again, I have to hit the "ON" button to turn the radio back on.

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On my 2007, I leave the key in the "r" position and the radio turns off by itself in about 30 seconds. When I start the bike again, I have to hit the "ON" button to turn the radio back on.
There you go another undocumented improvement. Normally the radio will stay on or can be turned on from the "R" position, as it is sort of the accessory position. There was an issue with older bikes having miss-matched radios and radio controllers and if you did not shut down the radio before turning off the key (and I mean all the way off) you had a serious current drain.

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