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post #1 of 11 Old Jan 10th, 2009, 6:27 am Thread Starter
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Flashing miorror lights

Found this on youtube
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yp2qZUVZk40
I'm guessing the video was taken by a forum member who may have even posted details on this site.
Looks like a good way of keeping car drivers informed so they can KEEP OUT OF MY WAY!!
Anybody seen them?
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post #2 of 11 Old Jan 10th, 2009, 7:26 am
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Re: Flashing miorror lights

Pretty impressive amoutn of light, but's also the reason why I won't be using them. How in the world is the driver able to see ANYTHING in those mirrors then the lights are flashing??
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Pretty impressive amoutn of light, but's also the reason why I won't be using them. How in the world is the driver able to see ANYTHING in those mirrors then the lights are flashing??
Yeppir, that'd be Ron K Miller's farkleization. Sort of a tedious job, as seen in his detailed posts on our forums. I think one of the reasons they look so bright in the video is because of the orientation of the LEDs. Some LEDs have a tendency to be extremely pin-point in directional shine and I would venture to guess that the rider doesn't see the glare that the camera sees, nor that the cage driver sees. If ole Toad didn't already have the Muth mirrors, we'da done the RKM farkle.
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Pretty impressive amoutn of light, but's also the reason why I won't be using them. How in the world is the driver able to see ANYTHING in those mirrors then the lights are flashing??
This specific type of LED is more like a spotlight than a floodlight - it produces a very focused beam. When I drilled the mounting holes I specifically angled the horizontall lamps on the top and bottom to project out about 10 degrees. The vertical lamps are aimed back and parallel to the center line of the bike.

This design allows for roughly 30 degrees of coverage from the center line.

They only appear relatively dimly lit from the driver's perspective, and since the lamps are mounted on the outside of the mirror frame they don't interfere with the view at all. Since I use RS mirrors anyway this is not an issue.

Dick's right - it DOES take a while to do, I would estimate each mirror took three hours. I think you could save some time by perhaps soldering 4 lamps to one properly rated resistor instead of soldering each individual lamp to a resistor they way I did. I was advised against using ONE resistor for all 12 lamps. The only issue of using larger resistors is they may not fit into the "channel" inside the frame - it's pretty tight in there.


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Found this on youtube
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yp2qZUVZk40
I'm guessing the video was taken by a forum member who may have even posted details on this site.
Looks like a good way of keeping car drivers informed so they can KEEP OUT OF MY WAY!!
Anybody seen them?
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Here 'ya go Simon:

http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...&sb=5&o=0&vc=1

Unfortunately the detailed assembly pictures are long gone - but if you follow the description it's fairly straight forward.


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Found this on youtube
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yp2qZUVZk40
I'm guessing the video was taken by a forum member who may have even posted details on this site.
Looks like a good way of keeping car drivers informed so they can KEEP OUT OF MY WAY!!
Anybody seen them?
Simon
I have found that going slightly faster than the car you are turning in front of will insure that they are out of your way. In any case Ron's install is a nice neat job that looks cool.

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Re: Flashing miorror lights

Aren't they supposed to be amber in the U.S?

In the video, they look red. I don't believe that's legal - not that I care!

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Aren't they supposed to be amber in the U.S?

In the video, they look red. I don't believe that's legal - not that I care!
When I asked Larry Schumer to put together my set of tip-over wing LED string that is tied to the turn signal system, I asked a coupla local LEOs about that. Both told me that when viewed from the rear, they can be red; when viewed from the front, they can be amber. The Muth mirrors that ole Toad has worn for several years are only viewed from the rear, or slightly off quarter, and they are red.

I would think this arrangement of amber/front and red/rear is applicable to all the states country-wide --- butt at least, I hope those two LEO guyz told me right.
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When I asked Larry Schumer to put together my set of tip-over wing LED string that is tied to the turn signal system, I asked a coupla local LEOs about that. Both told me that when viewed from the rear, they can be red; when viewed from the front, they can be amber. The Muth mirrors that ole Toad has worn for several years are only viewed from the rear, or slightly off quarter, and they are red.

I would think this arrangement of amber/front and red/rear is applicable to all the states country-wide --- butt at least, I hope those two LEO guyz told me right.
Ahhhh, that makes sense.

BTW - the pictures are still with the article, but I had to download each to my computer before I could see it - they just gave me gobbledygook when I clicked on 'em.

ALSO - I followed a Gold Wing a couple weeks ago that looked like a Christmas tree on wheels. But he commanded attention long before I was near him.

So the question is: Who's got the most external lighting on their LT?

Should we have a contest or is their a hands-down winner everyone here knows about?

Would the winner of such a contest be banned from this board?

My guess is if this were a GW or HD contest, people would send the winner a key to their bike and a note that sez "I'm not worthy!"

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Re: Flashing miorror lights

Dick...you are correct.

Each state is going to have different traffic laws though. In Tejas you can only have amber or white facing forward and red or amber facing to the rear.

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Re: Flashing miorror lights

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Aren't they supposed to be amber in the U.S?

In the video, they look red. I don't believe that's legal - not that I care!
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When I asked Larry Schumer to put together my set of tip-over wing LED string that is tied to the turn signal system, I asked a coupla local LEOs about that. Both told me that when viewed from the rear, they can be red; when viewed from the front, they can be amber. The Muth mirrors that ole Toad has worn for several years are only viewed from the rear, or slightly off quarter, and they are red.

I would think this arrangement of amber/front and red/rear is applicable to all the states country-wide --- butt at least, I hope those two LEO guyz told me right.
The best thing to do is check your state's vehicle code sections on lighting. In California, Red or Yellow is fine.

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