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Fuel tank door latch is sticking

I did several searches and didn't find this topic only topics about the tang breaking or gettng stuck in the latch. My latch is sticking in the "open" position such that the door tang won't engage. I can "reset" the latch by pushing on the little button beside the latch towards the inside of the bike and thus make the other part pop up into position. Has anyone else had this problem? Is this a sign of impending failure or just a need for lubrication?

When I got home I hit it with a shot of spray silicone and that seems to have helped, so maybe it just had some dust and dirt in it.

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Re: Fuel tank door latch is sticking

Mine did that when "new" an 05.. I used a different lube, but that has allowed it to function or 31k miles and almost 4 years without fault.

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Mine did that when "new" an 05.. I used a different lube, but that has allowed it to function or 31k miles and almost 4 years without fault.
May I inquire as to what lube you used in case the spray silicone provides only a short-term fix?

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Re: Fuel tank door latch is sticking

I used "LPS 1" you can usually find it at a "industrial" supply house.. you won't find it at Yall Mart or AcidZone.

http://www.skygeek.com/lps00116.html

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Re: Fuel tank door latch is sticking

A lot has used WD-40 with success.

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A lot has used WD-40 with success.
Same here

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Re: Fuel tank door latch is sticking

Lucky you, my tang broke off a week after I got my LT home. I simply use a piece of velcro. Three years- no problems.

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Little velcro piece for me too and I like it better than the old latch that broke.
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Re: Fuel tank door latch is sticking

This is NOT an oil thread in drag... =P





yeah... WD-40 is great... I use a LOT of it.. it's great to clean up "gummy" mechanical things.

Then I follow up with the LPS-1 where I can.. works great on firearm mechanisms such as trigger and sliding parts.... and very slightly stains on some fabrics so is good for concealed weapons.... and throttle cables, lever lubrication, etc.

LPS-2 is good for high wear points... and hangs pretty good. I use it on "external" parts of firearms .

I use the WD-40 to flush, clean and temporary lube... but I use the LPS-1 on things like throttle cables, pivots, etc... Personally I don't like how WD-40 dries out... we've used it as "cutting oil" pretty often.. etc... whatever works for ya!

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Re: Fuel tank door latch is sticking

If I remember correctly, it literally pops out and then can be washed with soap an water.

Never tried cleaning it out with oil. Oil grabs the constant dust our of the air.

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This is NOT an oil thread in drag... =P





yeah... WD-40 is great... I use a LOT of it.. it's great to clean up "gummy" mechanical things.

Then I follow up with the LPS-1 where I can.. works great on firearm mechanisms such as trigger and sliding parts.... and very slightly stains on some fabrics so is good for concealed weapons.... and throttle cables, lever lubrication, etc.

LPS-2 is good for high wear points... and hangs pretty good. I use it on "external" parts of firearms .

I use the WD-40 to flush, clean and temporary lube... but I use the LPS-1 on things like throttle cables, pivots, etc... Personally I don't like how WD-40 dries out... we've used it as "cutting oil" pretty often.. etc... whatever works for ya!
My only reservation is using WD-40 on plastic. I haven't heard of any problem with most common plastics in use today, but some don't like petroleum-based products very well and I believe that WD-40 has petroleum distillates, although I haven't checked a can lately to be sure.

I think silicone is safe for pretty much all plastics.

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My only reservation is using WD-40 on plastic. I haven't heard of any problem with most common plastics in use today, but some don't like petroleum-based products very well and I believe that WD-40 has petroleum distillates, although I haven't checked a can lately to be sure.

I think silicone is safe for pretty much all plastics.
Definitely, Matt... WD40 use must be very careful ... On the other hand, I've sed LPS1 on nearly everything and it's never fouled it up.

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Re: Fuel tank door latch is sticking

mine eventually broke off... I glued a little round magnet to the inside of the cover and another to the top of the gas cap, occasionally the wind would blow it open so I ended up gluing 2 magnets beside each other. No moving parts to break, works perfect.

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mine eventually broke off... I glued a little round magnet to the inside of the cover and another to the top of the gas cap, occasionally the wind would blow it open so I ended up gluing 2 magnets beside each other. No moving parts to break, works perfect.

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Excellent idea! That sucker flappin' in the wind has been bothering me lately.


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mine eventually broke off... I glued a little round magnet to the inside of the cover and another to the top of the gas cap, occasionally the wind would blow it open so I ended up gluing 2 magnets beside each other. No moving parts to break, works perfect.

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Yes, I like that idea. If mine bites the dust that is the solution I'm trying first.

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Magnets! Now that is a great idea.
But it makes me wonder, how many magnets would it take to hold the tupperware on? ;)

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Magnets! Now that is a great idea.
But it makes me wonder, how many magnets would it take to hold the tupperware on?
All depends on how large the pot holes are in your area!

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My only reservation is using WD-40 on plastic. I haven't heard of any problem with most common plastics in use today, but some don't like petroleum-based products very well and I believe that WD-40 has petroleum distillates, although I haven't checked a can lately to be sure.

I think silicone is safe for pretty much all plastics.
If the silicone dries out too fast (usually does) try cleaning the latch out real good then squirt some white lithium grease in it and work the latch a few times. White lithium is safe for all plastics.
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If the silicone dries out too fast (usually does) try cleaning the latch out real good then squirt some white lithium grease in it and work the latch a few times. White lithium is safe for all plastics.
I have a can of that also so that is no problem. The only problem I've had with grease in the past is that it attracts dust and dirt and sometimes ends up causing more harm than good. If the silicone lasts at least several months, then I have no problem giving it a squirt every so often. But if it lasts only a week or two, then I'll try some LPS or lithium. Or maybe just break off the tang and install magnets!

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Just a little more information on the magnet fix. The first magnets i glued were not in quite parallel to each other so I placed a real thin wedge of plastic under the one on the inside of the cover, the one on the gas cap just went flat. The second set I just used more JB Weld and angled the magnets a bit.

When you fill up with gas you just have to twist the cap so it lines up with the magnets, becomes automatic after a while.

tupperware magnets....now there's an idea!

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I just did this fix yesterday!

I had a couple of thin approximately 1" by 1/2" magnets just hangin' around... they are the kind that are slightly pliable. This is important since there is a bit of a curve to both mounting surfaces.

I removed the broken latch mechanism and used an Exacto chisel and small hammer to trim the "lip" off around the opening. All that was left was a rectangular hole with a flat surface surrounding it.

The perimeter of the hole and corresponding mating surface on the lid was cleaned with alcohol. Same with the magnets.

A very THIN mist of 3M Super 90 spray glue was applied to both magnets, I then stuck the magnets together so that they were lined up, glued sides facing out.

I attached both magnets over the hole, then closed the lid and held pressure on top with a 5 lb. hammer to allow the glue to dry. The thickness of the combined magnets just happened to be the right amount so that when stuck together the lid is level with the tupperware. The only thing left to do is trim the corner of the bottom magnet flush to the edge with an Exacto knife, this is for cosmetic purposes only.

It works GREAT - and thanks again for the idea.
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Excellent idea! That sucker flappin' in the wind has been bothering me lately.
zip your pants up fool. That will solve your problem.

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If you want to use magnets try Neodymium magnets, the strongest avialable. Or try the ceramic magnets, won't rust.
http://magnetsales.thomasnet.com/vie...tangle-magnets
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