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post #1 of 49 Old Jan 9th, 2006, 8:51 pm Thread Starter
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Heel/Toe Shifter K1200LT (NEW)

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I am new to this site, and want to intoduce a Kickshifter (heel/toe shifter) to the K1200 crowd. I use this shifter on my own bike (GL1800) and recently a friend of mine bought a new K1200 LT. He saw my shifter on my own bike, and asked me if this could be made to fit the K1200 LT. Well, we spent one afternoon working on the project, and when we finished, we had a winner!
I have pictures of the unit on the K1200 LT, but do not know how to post on this board. If you have interest, contact me and I will send picture and pricing to your email address.
The Kickshifter will be contructed of stainless steel and takes but a few minutes to install. Please write if you have interest.
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post #2 of 49 Old Jan 9th, 2006, 10:10 pm
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heel toe shifter

man i'm really surprized that bmw doesn't make that as an add on. that's what the cops use to keep their boot toes shiny. if the factory doesn't make it, then patient it. you could make a killing. omurphy
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man i'm really surprized that bmw doesn't make that as an add on. that's what the cops use to keep their boot toes shiny. if the factory doesn't make it, then patient it. you could make a killing. omurphy
I rode my son in law's Harley for a while before I got my first LT, absolutely HATED the heel shifter! I finally removed it. Put it back on when he shipped his bike to Hawaii. If BMW ever put one on an LT, I hope they make it removable! Yes, there will be a few that would like it, but a huge minority I would imagine. Not likely to make a "killing" on them for LTs.

There was another one that someone made up a couple years ago, needed it to continue riding, and although not real pretty was imminently functional. So yes, there are some that actually NEED it, not just want it.

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I designed one, and drew it up. I made a prototype, but then the project stalled because of lack of interest on the forum. I presented the question on the old forum and got maybe 5 others that were interested. I was surprised at the low interest level myself. But most people have never had a heel shifter, so they don't know what they're missing. Either that, or they've only experienced a poorly-designed one...like David did. IF designed and/or adjusted correctly, you shouldn't even know that it's there.

I'd put a well-designed heel shifter in the same category as our electric windshield. Once you have it and are used to it...you don't know what you'd do without it. Obviously, I have leaned to adapt.
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--------- Either that, or they've only experienced a poorly-designed one...like David did.
Poorly designed? It was a Harley one!

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i have a heal toe shifted on my intruder, its there, i never got used to using it,would never miss it if it was gone
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After coming from a r1200cl and before that a long list of honda and yamaha motorcycles. I would love to have the heel/toe shifter option. I find the shifter on the k1200lt to be a little small. I would rather have the option for different shifters.
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IF designed and/or adjusted correctly, you shouldn't even know that it's there.

I'd put a well-designed heel shifter in the same category as our electric windshield. Once you have it and are used to it...you don't know what you'd do without it. Obviously, I have leaned to adapt.
I have to agree with you Joe. I had one on my '86 FLHT and rode it for many years and still miss that feature. Like Joe...obviously I've adapted. It is so much easier to use and convenient for shifting. Those that don't like it...what can I say...you don't like it!

I doubt seriously that anyone making this product will get rich off it, but it would be nice to have the option for those of us that like the concept.

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The thing I appreciated about the heel shifter that I had, was that I was able to slide my foot back and actually use my toes to upshift. When riding aggresively, I found this a much more natural way to obtain positive shifts. 1 down in front, 5 down on the heel shifter. And "down" is a much better way to shift, I don't care who you are.

Of course, the fragility of the LT's shifter linkage has yet to be mentioned here. This too is part of the reason that I abondoned the project. People start braking their linkage and they are very prone to point the finger at your fancy-schmancy toe/heel shifter. A little food for thought, for those considering this endeavor. I am a heavy-footed shifter (I suppose) and I've managed to break this linkage twice already. That's why I carry spare parts.
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My Goldwing has one...I love it. But I'm kinda use to toe only now since I mainly ride the KLT and Concours...I'd think about getting one.

But I'd worry that using the heel would put too much strain on the already fragile shifter linkage.

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I'm in the "count me in category". Have used heel and tow shifter with several HDs and love it. Interested in seeing what you have developed for the LT. Please send pics and pricing to [email protected] (temporary mobile email while traveling).

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Thanks for sharing your insight and experience with this topic.
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I've had bikes with a heel/toe shifter and without and always enjoyed having the option of the heel shifter. I am interested in what you have to offer.

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The only thing I miss about my Harley's is the heal/toe shifter. Please e-mail pictures. [email protected]

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Info Request Heel/Toe Shifter K1200LT

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I have a "03" K1200LT. Yes I would like to have the Info.
for this Shifter.
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shifter

let's try again...

I'm very interested... please send me the info

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I'm very interested... please send me the info

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I rode my son in law's Harley for a while before I got my first LT, absolutely HATED the heel shifter! I finally removed it.
http://www.bmwlt.net/ubbthreads/show...&Number=154703

yea i alway's removed mine off the HD as well.

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Will it fit a size 14 boot? Please forward photos to [email protected]
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heel/toe

I added a heel toe to my V Star last year and prefer it over the standard shifter. In fact, my first time on a, LT I was shocked that it did not have a heel toe. It is like most accessories, whatever you get used to. I would be interested in seeing what you have developed.
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Response to comments on Kickshifter

I have been out of town for a few days, and glad to sse some comments on this idea of mine. No, I don't plan on making any killing on this little item, but it's fun to help some that would like to have this option.
First off, it has been mounted on a friends bike and he has a size thirteen (13) boot. and when I first mentioned this to him after looking at his bike and thinking, hey, I can make this fit on this bike, he was not interested. A couple of weeks later, he called me and asked some question, and then decided to mount it. It requires two holes to be drilled into the side cover. If you ever decide to remove it, just remove the mount plate and reinstall the button head bolts (they will look like they belong there). For those that have used heel/toe shifter on Harleys, they are, in my mind quite different. The hee/toe on the Harley is spaced far apart and you have to move your foot around somewhat. This unit will allow you to shift in the confentional way, or use the heel with little movement on the footpedal. The idea of the small area around the shifter with a thick sole large boot makes for placing the boot in a tight area. With the kickshifter, your always on the top and shifting down (never put your toe under the pedal). As for breaking the shifter, I can't imagine this shifter being able to to that. The way it shifts, it has a limited movement area, and it applys probably less pressure on the shifter than slaming it down during downshifts and you still do that with this one. On the upshifts, it is limited on the amount of travel, so the likely event of over travel is impossible. There are those that will never have interest in a heel/toe shifter, but for those that have used them (it may take a day to get used to it for some) you will wonder why you didn't have one before.
I will be try to get production going soon. I have a list I am taking serious inquires on this shifter, and if you want on it, just write and let me know.
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Don't know how to post pictures on this board, so write me at
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Heel Toe.... Harley Davidson................If you want one buy one....
Toe shifter .....K1200LT NOW thats a MOTORCYCLE... I am glad that BMW has the shift it has. Working the gears ........I understand that GW now has a auto ....maybe some might want that.


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Got many messages on this kickshifter, and not sure I responded to you. I have pictures, and if you will email me at [email protected]
I will send you info on the shifter.
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Earl,
I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but have been back to the board and have answered those that have posted and it alerted me.
Anyway, I have a picture of the kickshifter and would send it to you if you will write me at my email address.
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Kickshifter

A couple of months ago, I introduced myself and told members that I was in the process of making a heel/toe shifter for the K1200 LT. Well, now it's finished. I have a number of them ready to ship this week, and it you have interest, contact me at [email protected]
I have pictures of the unit, and it sells for $185.00 plus shipping of $7.00
this is made of stainless stell and polished and all hardware is also stainless.
Thanks for you interest.
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I used a heal and toe shifter...

on my Honda Trail 90, circa 1969.

Worked ok, but I never missed it.

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May I suggest that you sign up as a vendor here? Not only will that give you your own forum to discuss such things and post pictures and installation instructions, but then people will know right where to find your contact information if they want to buy one.

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Joe (messenger13) and I met the owner of Suburban Machinery on Saturday at BMW of Cleveland. Nice guy. In talking with him, he told us how he makes some things "pure custom", like the heel-toe shifter he made for an LT rider who lost his left foot to diabetes. The SM owner said the guy wanted something he could shift "with his stump". Those words were kind of blunt, but you got the impression that the SM owner could make anything for anybody... for a price.

Nice to know that option is out there.

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Saw your post. I'm in the process of doing that now. Working out details with ElJeffe on the board.
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By the way, the shifters are ready for shipment.
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heel toe shift

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Hello,
I am new to this site, and want to intoduce a Kickshifter (heel/toe shifter) to the K1200 crowd. I use this shifter on my own bike (GL1800) and recently a friend of mine bought a new K1200 LT. He saw my shifter on my own bike, and asked me if this could be made to fit the K1200 LT. Well, we spent one afternoon working on the project, and when we finished, we had a winner!
I have pictures of the unit on the K1200 LT, but do not know how to post on this board. If you have interest, contact me and I will send picture and pricing to your email address.
The Kickshifter will be contructed of stainless steel and takes but a few minutes to install. Please write if you have interest.
Thanks,
Buckskin
i am very interested in it.please send me all info . [email protected]
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I am interested in seeing photos of the production version. I did not care for the black finish on the prototype pictured here earlier, but I imagine the polished stainless would blend better with the LT's aesthetics.

I hated the heel/toe shifter on my Harley at first, because the span was too short for me to fit my size fifteens on the floorboards. I found an aftermarket extended length rear shift arm, installed it, and I have loved heel/toe ever since.

I enjoy riding new LT, but I hate having to re-polish my boots after every ride due to toe scuffing. Don't have that problem on the Road King. Oh yeah, the H-D's side stand is better, too. But then, it has to be, there is no center stand!

Please send info/photos of your shifter. If you have a customer in the Dallas area with one installed, would be great if they would let me demo theirs before I plunk down two c's.


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A couple of months ago, I introduced myself and told members that I was in the process of making a heel/toe shifter for the K1200 LT. Well, now it's finished. I have a number of them ready to ship this week, and it you have interest, contact me at [email protected]
I have pictures of the unit, and it sells for $185.00 plus shipping of $7.00
this is made of stainless stell and polished and all hardware is also stainless.
Thanks for you interest.
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I'm interested in getting a heal-toe shifter. Are these still available. Anyone know of anyone else or other vendors that sell heal-toe shifters?
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I'm all fixed up. And boy does it feel great!

I ordered the heal-toe shifter from Buckskin and the driver floorboards with extenders from dodk64 [ http://www.dodk64.com/index.html ].

Received both orders fast, installation was easy on both products and fit and finish was SUPERB on both products. What's amazing is how well both products work well together. Especially being designed by two different men in opposite parts of the country. I thank them both for the inventions.

If you are moving from a cruiser. like I did, with floorboards and heal-toe shifter, these products are to be desired. It will make your transition to the LT much easier. As an added benefit, the lowered floorboards allow more clearance for my ankles when I put my feet down at a stop. Pleasant suprise indeed.

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Re: Heel/Toe Shifter K1200LT (NEW)

Buckskin,
I added a heel shifter to my Valkyrie and it made all the difference in the world. I loved it and the pictures look just like the one I had for that motorcycle. I think it was made by "Rattlebars"??? I would be VERY interested in doing the same for my LT. If you have these available, please let me know and I'll order one.
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Buckskin, I hope you are still out there? I did not realize that your post was Jan 06? I would really like to have your heel toe shifter. Les
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Re: Heel/Toe Shifter K1200LT (NEW)

Need to get in touch with Buckskin or anyone who knows where to purchase the Heel/Toe Shifter he wrote abouto in 2006. "Triker" purchased one for his Trike and indicated it worked for him. I'm disabled and converted my K1200LT into a trike last year in the hopes of riding again but shifting is near impossible for me and Buckskin's shifter that "Triker" purchased looks like what I need.
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Do a search on "Buckskin" in the members area for some leads. May not be around since his last visit to this site was in Jun 2007.

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For those of you who are interested in the heel/toe shifter Jack Huddle has, his current email address is [email protected] - we just ordered one last week from him.
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If anyone is interested in the heel toe shifter, I have one in brand new condition. I mounted the heel toe shifter, took it around the block and decided it was not for me. It's a quality product, just not what I wanted for the LT. If interested, send a PM. I'll sell at a very reasonable price.
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For those of you who are interested in the heel/toe shifter Jack Huddle has, his current email address is [email protected] - we just ordered one last week from him.
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Re: Heel/Toe Shifter K1200LT (NEW)

A quality made heel/toe shifter would have an adjustable stop to prevent over leveraging the factory shift arm,.....it's all in the design. Had a good one on a Kawi 1100 and it was fantastic. Yep, I want one for my Beemer, but it has to be intelligently built and look great too.
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Re: Heel/Toe Shifter K1200LT (NEW)

I don't think it ever grabbed hold in the market... This thread was started 5 years ago, and I've never heard anything more!

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HI.

I AM IN THE PROCESS OF BUYING A BMW K1600 GTL. I HAVE NERVE DAMAGE TO MY LEFT LEG/FOOT CAUSED BY DIABETES. I CANT GET ENOUGH UPWARD MOVEMENT IN MY FOOT TO MOVE THE SELECTOR UP IN THE GEAR RANGE.

I NEED A TOE/HEEL SHIFTER FOR THIS K1600 GTL SO THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO PRESS DOWN ON THE REAR MOST PEDAL TO UPCHANGE - AND THEN PRESS DOWN ON THE FRONT PEDAL TO SHIFT DOWN.

I AM IN AUSTRALIA. STAINLESS STEEL WILL BE GOOD. PLEASE LET ME KNOW COST TO FABRICATE AND COST TO SHIP TO ADELAIDE IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA. ALSO WILL YOU BE DESIGNING THE NEW SHIFTER TO REPLACE THE OLD ONE AND WILL YOU HAVE THE CORRECT SIZE SPLINES TO GO ONTO THE PIVOT THAT THE SHIFTER ATTACHES TO. ALSO WILL I NEED ANY NEW BOLTS/SPACERS OR WHATEVER TO FASTEN THE SHIFTER TO THE BIKE? WILL YOU ALSO BE INCLUDING THE APPROPRIATE FITMENT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THE ACTIVATING ROD THAT GOES TO THE GEARBOX?

Cheers,

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HI.

I AM IN THE PROCESS OF BUYING A BMW K1600 GTL. I HAVE NERVE DAMAGE TO MY LEFT LEG/FOOT CAUSED BY DIABETES. I CANT GET ENOUGH UPWARD MOVEMENT IN MY FOOT TO MOVE THE SELECTOR UP IN THE GEAR RANGE.

I NEED A TOE/HEEL SHIFTER FOR THIS K1600 GTL SO THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO PRESS DOWN ON THE REAR MOST PEDAL TO UPCHANGE - AND THEN PRESS DOWN ON THE FRONT PEDAL TO SHIFT DOWN.

I AM IN AUSTRALIA. STAINLESS STEEL WILL BE GOOD. PLEASE LET ME KNOW COST TO FABRICATE AND COST TO SHIP TO ADELAIDE IN SOUTH AUSTRALIA. ALSO WILL YOU BE DESIGNING THE NEW SHIFTER TO REPLACE THE OLD ONE AND WILL YOU HAVE THE CORRECT SIZE SPLINES TO GO ONTO THE PIVOT THAT THE SHIFTER ATTACHES TO. ALSO WILL I NEED ANY NEW BOLTS/SPACERS OR WHATEVER TO FASTEN THE SHIFTER TO THE BIKE? WILL YOU ALSO BE INCLUDING THE APPROPRIATE FITMENT TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT THE ACTIVATING ROD THAT GOES TO THE GEARBOX?

Cheers,

Clayton.
Do a search on the following forum (a sister to this one), for heal and toe shifters:

BMW K1600 Forum : BMW K1600 GT and GTL Forums

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I ordered one of these for my LT, because of my years of heel/toe usage on my Valkyrie:

http://www.cvmtouringaccessories.com...t/default.html

I am very pleased with it. Not quite as good as a dedicated heel/toe shifter, but very close. More than sufficient.

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Could you send me pictures and pricing for the shifter. [email protected]
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Could you send me pictures and pricing for the shifter. [email protected]
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I've had this for years. Happy with it.

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