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Side stand and first gear doesn't always work!

It's well known that it's a good idea to put the bike in first gear when using the side stand but it isn't foolproof - not from THIS fool at any rate! The other day I visited a friend whose drive is very steep and narrow. It's awkward to get onto the drive backwards so, as I've done many times before, I drove on, leaving the bike in gear and cutting the engine as I put the stand down. I let the bike inch forward to compression and left it. It stayed in place without trouble. I came out and stashed by new aquarium goodies in the top-case and then moved the the side. As I started to cock my leg over, the engine flipped over compression and moved the wheels far enough to let the side stand go over centre and the bike went down. No harm done - except to my pride - and I got her upright again using the recommended "walk backwards" technique.

Learn from my mistake and park your LT with its tail pointing down a slope so that any movement doesn't affect the side stand.

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Re: Side stand and first gear doesn't always work!

AMEN. I don't look forward to my first incursion with dented pride... so many variables to keep track of... almost have to be an engineer to process all the data to calculate the perfect geometry for a carrier landing with an LT.

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Re: Side stand and first gear doesn't always work!

It's often said that there are only two types of LT rider: those who have dropped one and those who will one day. I've had mine for four years and hadn't dropped her before our recent trip to Spain and Portugal. Now this so I've christened both sides of the bike in about six weeks!

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Re: Side stand and first gear doesn't always work!

Glad to hear you're okay!

yeah, I leave in first gear and try to park "uphill" so the reliable force of gravity is pulling against the sidestand or center stand.

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It's often said that there are only two types of LT rider: those who have dropped one and those who will one day. I've had mine for four years and hadn't dropped her before our recent trip to Spain and Portugal. Now this so I've christened both sides of the bike in about six weeks!

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Actually, I think that quote is ".........those who have dropped their LT, and liars." It really does put a dent in the ol' ego but I hear they still make the tupperware..................and let's face it; if you ride at all; it will happen sooner or later...................

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It's often said that there are only two types of LT rider: those who have dropped one and those who will one day. I've had mine for four years and hadn't dropped her before our recent trip to Spain and Portugal. Now this so I've christened both sides of the bike in about six weeks!

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Ahh, experience is a virtue with our beloved LT. I believ BMW can learn from our HD friends but who are they to tell us how to build motorcycles. Glad to hear all turned out OK!

On the Spain/Portugal trip... did you ship the LT or rent when you gt there?

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Ahh, experience is a virtue with our beloved LT. I believe BMW can learn from our HD friends but who are they to tell us how to build motorcycles. Glad to hear all turned out OK!
HD bikes don't do anything for me. They never have. Mind you, while I had a 1981 R80RT I couldn't really see what anyone saw in the 1100 or 1200 LTs, either, until I rode one and she put her hands around my heart in a few miles.

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We took her over by ferry from Plymouth to Santander. As we were doing the northern coast it made even more sense, though the run down the west side of the Pyrenees to the Mediterranean coast is supposed to be quite an easy one. I've posted a trip report here and I can heartily recommend the area.

I've not used them but this company do tours with rented bikes. I came across them at one of the BMW events at Garmisch-Partenkirchen so you'd expect them to be kosher.

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Can't agree more about the lack of interest the HD provides me as well, they do have a locking sidestand which would make sense on all bikes.

Envy you living in that part of the world! I have intensions of shipping my GS over and leaving it with relatives for future trips...

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Re: Side stand and first gear doesn't always work!

I have used the reverse selector on occasion to assist with compression braking when parking on the side stand. Higher ratio than first gear.

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Re: Side stand and first gear doesn't always work!

I used to do that but I was warned, on here, that it's not a direct connection to the engine so is more prone to slippage than one of the "true" gears.

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Fair comment Keith, do know it's connected via the starter. Hasn't failed me yet but I'll keep your info to hand. Cheers.

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I've been meaning to ask. Is the Hilton in your Avatar the one in Derbyshire? If so, you would have been about ten miles from me at the time.


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Near Appleby just off the A66. East of Penrith near the Lakes District. Is that close ? Last year during July at the beginning of our European leg. pm any time.

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