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Question Wet Radio Electrics ????

Hi All,
Yesterday I had the misfortune of getting caught out in the heaviest downpour of rain I have ever had the misfortune to ride in in some 25 years of riding.

Anyway at the height of the downpour my radio went out and when I turned it back on again all I got was the NO Radio signal on the display. None of the other radio, tape or Cd function buttons were working either.

When I got back home I could hear a faint static "hash" noise coming from all four speaker pods, but I still had no responce from any of the music control panel buttons.

I disconnected the battery overnight, leaving the bike to hopefully dry out.
I reconnected the battery this morning but all I'm getting is the same static hash noise still.

None of the radio control buttons seem to work. The On/Off button doesn't appear to function at all, as its not cutting the power, cause I can still hear the slight hash noise regardless of whether I press the off /on button several ltimes.

The hash noise stops only when the battery is disconnected.

I imagine this is a moisture problem?
Has anyone ever experienced the same thing?
Is it just a matter of giving it a few days to dry out?
or, do I need to check some relays or fuses somewhere on the bike?
Or, do I have some other problem that needs checking out?

Any suggestions will be appreciated

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Yeppir, it just needs to dry out. The next time you tear her down for some maintenance, use some dielectric grease on all the electrical plugs you can find. Hasn't happened to barbara in years.



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post #3 of 22 Old Jan 9th, 2006, 9:59 am
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I had the same symptoms during a heavy rain. Thanks to info on this forum I found it to be very small cracks in one of the rubber radio buttons. I sealed it with super glue and all was well after a drying out period. Good luck!
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Yep.. Me too, when mine dried out all was OK except one of the rear speakers. That took removing the speaker and draining the speaker compartment. The dealer fixed it on warranty and then said these bikes are not meant to be ridden in the rain. That was news to me. I rode my old R60-6 all over during heavy rains without a problem. I guess that's the price you pay for gadgets.
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I call BS on that dealer! If they weren't meant to be ridden in the rain the manufacturer's handbook would say so. Promise!



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...The dealer fixed it on warranty and then said these bikes are not meant to be ridden in the rain...
What dealer shared this wisdom with you? This is probably one of the best wet weather bikes made, strange they would want to put out crap like that to the buying public.
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What dealer shared this wisdom with you? This is probably one of the best wet weather bikes made, strange they would want to put out crap like that to the buying public.
It was Cliff's BMW in Danbury, CT. I had other problems with this dealer including performing work not requested etc. When BMW America called me I gave this dealer an appropriate rating with comments. I have not been back since.
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I guess this wisdom comes from the same top secret service bulletin that advises pulling a trailer makes the rear end fail, you must have dropped the bike if the shift linkage broke, storing gasoline in the garage with the bike makes the windshield fog up, etc.
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Thanks for the feedback Guys.
Its been a few days now and the hash noise has stopped when I reconnect the power, but the radio still isn't working as yet. Maybe a few more days?

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Your dealer is full of s*(*. I've had my 01 and 05 LT in rains that would scare a duck and not a minutes problem with radiios. I would change dealers in a hurry. That is probably the craziest statement that I have ever heard that these bikes are not supposed to be ridden in the rain.
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Thanks for the feedback Guys.
Its been a few days now and the hash noise has stopped when I reconnect the power, but the radio still isn't working as yet. Maybe a few more days?
Hi Barry, I certainly hope it rectifies itself... I have shared your experience and discovered (like another poster) that there was a small split in rubber of one of the radio buttons that was letting moisture into the unit. The problem didn't fix itself...on pulling out the remote I discovered corrosion on the circuit board and I had to replace the remote unit... I hope you have better luck...

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Try disconnecting the bike's battery for 30 minutes and then hook er up again.



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Re: Wet Radio Electrics ????

Hi,

Had my LT in the rain out here in SoCal at work during the day and found the radio on when I cam out, key turned off. I drove it home and could not turn the radio off until I rotated the key through all of its positions, didn't think anything of it, put a fan on it for good measure. Next day on the way to work, the radio would come on and off full volume at random. Found I had to disconnect the battery lead for the day, been doing this for a couple weeks now, othewise my battery will go dead after a weekend left on. I just took the whole thing apart and found corrosion on on the circuit board below the push buttons due to an invisible crack (when looking from the outside) in the power button rubber. I tested it with the bike apart while monitoring the current draw, found I had 30 ma without the battery, and 200 ma with the radio connected but not on, with the radio on I had 500 ma. I got the push button board to work fine, however then my radio simply turned on while in the off mode. I disconnected the radio push button board, still stayed on. I opened the radio to see if there was any corrosion there and found none.

I am thinking about taking the key apart next since I am down this far. Any ideas, this is baffling me so far.

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Re: Wet Radio Electrics ????

The OFF mode is actually the accessory mode and the radio can come on. To completely isolate the radio requires you to lock the bars and remove the key. Don't attempt to dismantle the ignition as it is a bear to get to and is held on by one time screws that must be drilled out. Most likey the ignition is not your issue but rather the radio controller.

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Yep.. Me too, when mine dried out all was OK except one of the rear speakers. That took removing the speaker and draining the speaker compartment. The dealer fixed it on warranty and then said these bikes are not meant to be ridden in the rain. That was news to me. I rode my old R60-6 all over during heavy rains without a problem. I guess that's the price you pay for gadgets.
I was told the same thing: "don't ride it in the rain".

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I was told the same thing: "don't ride it in the rain".
That is just BS. I have ridden in frog stranglers with no ill effects.

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That is just BS. I have ridden in frog stranglers with no ill effects.

BS? OK, whatever you say. But the rain has had adverse effects on some of our radios. My buttons are not cracked and I've used dielectric grease on the connectors so just how the rain is getting into the radio is something of a mystery to me. Anyway since I got the Wee-Strom I've parked the LT and will part company with it in the spring.

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BS? I got the Wee-Strom I've parked the LT and will part company with it in the spring.
Well, sh*t there is your problem. A shezuki? Really? You went from an LT to that? Simply put the old girl was giving you hell because you were cheating on her. She knew you were thinking of another....


Baaaaadddd boy!!!!

Oh, yea almost forgot.. Hey John let me know when you want to ride....All weather, rain included... Hey dave, not much protection on the wii. Make sure you check the weather before you ride, beautiful state MO...wouldn't want you to be uncomfortable....

Sorry, I believe in the age old saying: Do on to those as they do onto others.

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Well, sh*t there is your problem. A shezuki? Really? You went from an LT to that? Simply put the old girl was giving you hell because you were cheating on her. She knew you were thinking of another....


Baaaaadddd boy!!!!

Oh, yea almost forgot.. He John let me know when you want to ride....All weather, rain included... Hey dave, not much protection on the wii. Make sure you check the weather before you ride, beautiful state MO...wouldn't want you to be uncomfortable....

Sorry, I believe in the age old saying: Do on to those as they do onto others.

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Hoss bless you for sharing the sign! I agree with it 100%.

Question: Does Suzuki build a special V-Strom for persons with speech/writing impediments called a wee-strom? Maybe it has 8"wheels so it's really low to the ground so that the impaired writer(rider) won't have far to fall to the ground hence the reference to the word wee? Or is it some term of endearment peculiar to Suzuki owners that is lost on BMW owners?

How stupid does this sound? I think I'll go climb on my little sweetie pie, love muffin, puddin pie L-zee T-zee and go for a little ridey ride.

Aren't there forums for Suzuki's?

Gotta go now so I can go puke!

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BS? OK, whatever you say. But the rain has had adverse effects on some of our radios. My buttons are not cracked and I've used dielectric grease on the connectors so just how the rain is getting into the radio is something of a mystery to me. Anyway since I got the Wee-Strom I've parked the LT and will part company with it in the spring.
Oh I don't doubt some have had problems, the BS part was for who ever told you "don't ride it in the rain". Especially if they was a BMW dealer. There is a leak some where as she is pretty well sealed from the factory (but not hermetically). But given your history with the bike I guess I would have to make the same recommendation but I'll add the qualifier; "fix it or don't ride it in the rain".

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I'm curious as to where the water is getting in to mess the radio up. I rode in almost 12,000 miles of rain last year & wash it sometimes twice a week. Nock on wood but so far no water problems with my radio.

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Hoss bless you for sharing the sign! I agree with it 100%.

Question: Does Suzuki build a special V-Strom for persons with speech/writing impediments called a wee-strom? Maybe it has 8"wheels so it's really low to the ground so that the impaired writer(rider) won't have far to fall to the ground hence the reference to the word wee? Or is it some term of endearment peculiar to Suzuki owners that is lost on BMW owners?

How stupid does this sound? I think I'll go climb on my little sweetie pie, love muffin, puddin pie L-zee T-zee and go for a little ridey ride.

Aren't there forums for Suzuki's?

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