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post #1 of 34 Old Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:34 am Thread Starter
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The clips that hold the mirrors to my 02LT are broken. That is to say that the plastic holding the metal clips broke. Can the mirror be taken apart and is there a replacement part for just the clip assembly or does one have to buy a whole new mirror from BMW? I have them secured with duct tape now, but that looks pretty ugly.

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post #2 of 34 Old Oct 22nd, 2008, 11:40 am
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I just drilled and tapped a screw hole in the vent opening of the mirror.

You cannot see the screw and it holds the mirror on just fine.

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Re: Mirror Clips Broken

If you did that however, the mirrors would not do what they're designed to do which is break away in the event of dropping the bike to prevent more extensive damage.

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This is true, but the plastic in my mirror assembly is beyond repair.
The plastic surrounding the clips are all broken.
I tried epoxy to hold the clips and that lasted for awhile.
Got tired of them being loose and falling off at the slightest jarring.


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I may have to go the option you suggest if they is no other way other than buying new mirrors, but I'm hoping I can buy an insert or find some other idea to keep the breakaway function.

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Tony I believe you can buy the inserts. I,had broken my clips early on my 2005Lt and the dealer replaced them under warranty.
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If you find something, post it here. The plastic around one of my mirror clips is broken, too.

I watch eBay for a replacement mirror, or at least the unpainted portion, but I've not found the bargain I want yet. A couple of the used mirrors I have seen for sale were not in much better shape than my existing mirror.
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You can buy new parts from the dealer, I did. I don't remember the cost off hand...here is a copy from Max BMW fiche that shows part numbers and cost.

(it got a bit off center when I did the copy/paste and would not let me adjust.)

51167670951 cap left (CHROM) BUY 1 $103.51 03 51167670952 cap right (CHROM) BUY 1 $103.51 03 51167670953 cap left (BLACK) BUY 1 $78.96 03 51167670954 cap right (BLACK) BUY 1 $78.96

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post #9 of 34 Old Oct 22nd, 2008, 4:20 pm
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First off the design for the mirrors on the LT suck. Riding in NYC I'm always hitting pot holes...you can't ride here for 1 week without the mirror popping off. It cost me $150 to replace it. It's hard to find good deals on them, but if you look on ebay you'll find a good deal if you are patient.

My clips also broke and I took some cable ties and tied it down through the vent hole. You can't tell unless you look into the vent hole. If the bike falls the mirror will still break off because the wire ties will break. It works!
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post #10 of 34 Old Oct 22nd, 2008, 7:03 pm
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I repaired mine with epoxy and some pieces of plastic. I also used baking soda as a filler in the epoxy. I have put on about 50K after the fix and I can take them off for service and put them back , They never fall off. Just take your time and build up your material and let it dry between coats. Jim
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Re: Mirror Clips Broken

I did the same as Jim, cut up some small pieces of plastic off the back of an old TV remote, used JB Weld to glue them in place around where all the broken bits were and they work fine holding the clips in. Takes a few pieces glued just right to get the clips to sit properly.

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post #12 of 34 Old Oct 22nd, 2008, 8:05 pm
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Re: Mirror Clips Broken

Another vote with Ron and Jim. Just finished repairing mine with fiberglass cloth and JB Weld. The first repair in 2005 lasted until yesterday when I was heavy handed in putting the right side on.

Buying a replacement part may only last as long as the OEM part if you're not careful. The repairs are stronger than the original design when you add some beef to the supporting plastic.

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Re: Mirror Clips Broken

someone posted an optional fix once. Used magnets to hold on the mirror assembly. Worked fine and broke away when necessary. Easy to put back on by just putting it back in position.

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I just replaced one in Daytona and was suprised at the price....pleasantly suprised. The mirror which has the small clips was $35. The round assembly that screws to the housing was $17. I told the parts guy that mine was an "02....he said "they're all the same.
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Is there anything available that would allow you to just remove the mirrors in favor of installing them in the handlebars? Something that would snap in place where the mirror normally would, but would still look like it was part of the bodywork.

Winter is coming, maybe I'll start messing around with some foam and fiberglass. (Unless something is already available, that is.)

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Is there anything available that would allow you to just remove the mirrors in favor of installing them in the handlebars?
I ran my '02 LT for several years with the factory mirrors off and using handlebar mirrors from an '02 K12RS instead. Worked great (especially when lane-splitting) but I never did bother covering the old mirror mounts.

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I use Velcro to help hold the mirrors on.

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I've had to replace mine twice. Both times the plastic broke around the front clip. The mirror part with the clips can be purchased separately. The part cost me about $100. For the non-chrome version it was about $75. A whole new mirror will cost about $350. A lot of $ for a few pieces of plastic and a small mirror. Oh well. I am interested in where the part was purchased for $35, since this may happen again.

When replacing the part, removing the old mirror is tricky. The dealer did that for me; no charge.

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There is another fix that has been posted here in the past about using fishing line and CPVC glue. I used this method on mine and so far they are holding up. Haven't taken off an on only once since I did it this Summer though. I don't have time to search for the thread(s), but if you do you will find them.

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Apparently, BMW calls that part a "cap". They come in either chrome or black. The one on eBay is a black one, while I have the chrome caps on my bike. I may go with replacements if I can't fix it. The part numbers for the chrome are 51167670951 for the left one and 51167670952 for the right. For the black ones it is 51167670953 and 51167670954. The list prices are $103.51 each side for the chrome and $78.96 for the black, but they are $82.40 and $61.40 at Chicago BMW.

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Thanks for the link, Brian. I happened to look on eBay yesterday evening and find that auction and am watching it. You can always count on the South Kakalakians to figure out the right answers.
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Is there anything available that would allow you to just remove the mirrors in favor of installing them in the handlebars? Something that would snap in place where the mirror normally would, but would still look like it was part of the bodywork.

Winter is coming, maybe I'll start messing around with some foam and fiberglass. (Unless something is already available, that is.)
If you come up with something please put me on the list!!!!!

I wish my old friend was still alive I would have them. He was a great painter, body worker.

The ONE thing I would love to have is something to take those mirrors off.

The only draw back would be the draft that would be left unless you could make a slight outward slop to deflect air out, or I think the wing, without the mirror would cause some turbulence over it.

All in all I am game.

To me the start is a trace of the mirror housing where it meets the bike and go from there. I know it would be costly, but hell a trunk latch is 3-400 so I would pay pretty well for a well designed piece like this.

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I have the cap for the mirror, but does anyone know how to remove the plastic body piece from the cap. I have removed the one screw that is in the cap to the body and it looks like it should pull straight off,but before I put more effort on it(I don't want to break it) does anyone have a suggestion.

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Re: Mirror Clips Broken - repair suggestion

All,

I had similar issues with my 02 and while upgrading to the Murth mirrors here is what I did. The pictures attached go along with the repair and should be help understand what I did.

Broken Mirror Holder Repair Instructions
1) Disassemble the mirror assembly
2) Clean the ABS plastic around the broken holder area with soap and water and denatured alcohol.
3) Glue the broken piece together using Liquid Nailstm Perfect Glue 2 (for ABS plastic) and let cure for 12 hours.
4) Manufacture 1/16-in thick aluminum backing plates for mirror holder drill holes in corners of plates, use a #36 drill bit or 7/64-in bit
5) Roughen both aluminum plate and ABS plastic with sand paper, clean mating surfaces of all grease, finger prints, etc.
6) Glue backing plates onto flat area of the back of the mirror holder (use Perfect Glue 2), let cure for 12 hours. Use alligator type vise grip to hold plate in position
7) Carefully drill a hole through the ABS plastic under the backing plate using the predrilled holes in the plates as guides. Use a #36 drill bit or 7/64-in bit and a Dremel
8) Tap each hole in plate and ABS plastic simultaneously with a 6-32 nc machine screw tap.Suggest taping the first hole and immediately installing a 6-32 nc x 3/8-in stainless machine screw and move the alligator vise grip so that a second hole can be tapped. Be careful not to over-torque the machine screw to strip the new threads.
9) Remove the vise grip and tap the remaining holes and install the remaining 6-32 nc x 3/8-in stainless machine screws.
10) Reinstall the spring retainer clip and reassemble the mirror.
11) Coat the attachment areas with lithium grease and replace the mirror on the bike.


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There is a much simpler and no cost way to repair these broken plastic clip mounts and not lose the function of the breakaway feature.
Drill a small hole through the 2 parts of the clip(s) that are broken (see pics). Then simply use a cable tie and thread trough the hole and pull it tight! Works like a charm, and can't be seen.
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Is an old thread but anyhow take a look in "Easy Mirror Repair" if you have trouble with broken clips inside the Mirror.

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Good to remind people. This really works. I have done it and been using the bike a at least a couple years.

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I know these posts are old, but......... I wondered if anyone has used a small (2 1/2") dent puller to get the glass off, to access the screws and get the thing apart?
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I would also like to know a technique on how to remove the mirror from its housing without a sharp rap or two on the floor to break the mirror free. I have the replacement parts on-hand.

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I have successfully used a thin straight blade screwdriver to push in the edge of the retaining ring slightly and then pop the mirror off. If you have the replacement parts, take a close look at how the parts go together to try and visualize what you will have to do. Be careful though, the first time I tried, I broke the mirror. Practicing on the broken mirror allowed the technique to be improved to the point of consistent success.

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I have done the same to my right mirror. Clip was busted off. And can't be glued on.

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A friend of mine had that problem and ordered a product called Q Bond. It is an epoxy type glue and it worked great. It is still holding.
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All of this seems overly complicated for us less mechanical types. Full mirror and trim body replacements in chrome for the LT series can be found on E-Bay for just over $150...
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