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Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

While riding up Highway 33, a nice twisty mountain road, I was still trying to get comfortable through the curves on the LT. Curves felt abrupt, and unsettled. It snapped from upright to lean. I changed my riding position, and suddenly the whole bike transformed from a luxury cruiser to a luxury sport bike! I had been sitting back, upright, arch of foot on peg, and trying to punch it through corners like the Moto Guzzi. When I shifted my feet and put the ball of my foot on the peg, and leaned forward into the tank more like a crotch rocket position (but not extreme) suddenly it started falling into corners smoothly, held a line tightly, and felt like a million bucks.

OMG - what a bike!

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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

She does like to be ridden like a sport bike. But she isnt light on her feet. Very stable when you ride her like she's special. Even big girls wanna dance!
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... When I shifted my feet and put the ball of my foot on the peg, and leaned forward into the tank more like a crotch rocket position (but not extreme) suddenly it started falling into corners smoothly, held a line tightly, and felt like a million bucks.

OMG - what a bike!
Dave Dragon gave me that very same advice last spring at STC. I had been riding the LT like it was a LazyBoy recliner. Getting more "interactive" with it has made things much more fun.

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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

If you haven't already done it then your in for another supprize, put Ohlins on it! I did this at 19k and my shocks still felt like new (I ride only one up) but with the Ohlins the bike was a different animal. It tracks through corners and feels so planted you forget she is as big as she is.

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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

Another thing that made a nice notable change was servicing the Pre-Load dampner underneath the seat. Sure enough, mine had about a tablespoon of oil left, so I went to the local LT service guy and picked up a small amount of fork oil, and serviced the dampner. Now with the setting on one click above Single, it has made such a difference just in going down a simple straight road with high-lows in it.
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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

I recently attended the Experienced Rider Course; with only the 9 exercises, I was even more amazed how this bike will handle. Cone weaves, quick stops, tight turns, pause-and-go, swerving, allllllll the way through the "peanut" at the end, this is one versatile - and stable - motorcycle. And, I might add, minimal peg dragging (unless, of course, you want to show off )!

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I wish they made a LTP. I can dream can't I??? LOL...........

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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

It ain't a cruiser. And after this weekend's adventure, I realize it ain't a sport bike either, no matter how much we want it to be or believe it capable of being. After this last final drive event and after riding the GT, I realize that I tend to "try" to ride the LT like a sport bike too frequently, esp. in twisties. It handles it well and is very forgiving, but it's not a sport bike. I realize I don't enjoy pushing the LT to try to get it to behave like a sport bike- it can be very taxing. It can be pushed to behave that way, of course. A sport bike or sport touring bike does not have to be pushed. It knows how to behave and does it effortlessly. What I like about the LT is the comfort, the stability, and the miles you can eat up effortlessly. And I like that the big pig will do so in a sporting fashion- even though she's a big girl, she tries not to show it. She acts "sporty." And I like that it's the one bike my wife wants to get on and ride all day.

I've personally decided to quit trying to push the LT to be a sports bike... as it isn't enjoyable for me to ride it that way. Now I won't ride it like a big fat pig either, but I ain't out to show everyone the capabilities of my bike. I know what she can do, and that's enough for me.
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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

In August of 2000, I traded my '99 R1100RT for a 2001 LT.
Approaching 91,000 miles on the LT.
It's a great touring bike,
though I hate touring.
Long straight highways are boring.

Just went to Tampa and back for a funeral.
1240 miles in 30 hours.
Wouldn't want to do that on a sport bike.
Especially going through five thunderstorms.

For me, what I love about the LT
is that it covers the full spectrum
from sport to touring better than my RT ever did.

It handles great at high speed in the twisties, with minimal effort
and is smooth and refined on the highway.
And it's effortless pulling my Bushtec trailer.
But, the twisties are where my LT prefers to be.
Unless I'm pressed for time,
I'll always take the back roads to get to/from my destination.

On my second set of Ohlins in the rear, first set in the front.
Big difference from stock shock.
High confidence in my Metzler ME 880's in any weather.

I replace systems (not just individual parts) before they fail
so have confidence in the safety and integrity of the system.
If it still fails, I did all that I could do.
I ride within my capabilities, and always leave a 20% safety factor.

But, I've learned that the LT is capable of much more than many give it credit for.
I keep looking for what's going to replace it.
Haven't found it yet.

We each ride for difference reasons.
Enjoy the ride.
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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

Cudos on the Ohlins! Rides like a Sport Bike!

It did before the Ohlins, but now, wooohoooo!

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Re: Epithany - It Ain't A Cruiser!

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It ain't a cruiser. And after this weekend's adventure, I realize it ain't a sport bike either, no matter how much we want it to be or believe it capable of being. After this last final drive event and after riding the GT, I realize that I tend to "try" to ride the LT like a sport bike too frequently, esp. in twisties. It handles it well and is very forgiving, but it's not a sport bike. I realize I don't enjoy pushing the LT to try to get it to behave like a sport bike- it can be very taxing. It can be pushed to behave that way, of course. A sport bike or sport touring bike does not have to be pushed. It knows how to behave and does it effortlessly. What I like about the LT is the comfort, the stability, and the miles you can eat up effortlessly. And I like that the big pig will do so in a sporting fashion- even though she's a big girl, she tries not to show it. She acts "sporty." And I like that it's the one bike my wife wants to get on and ride all day.

I've personally decided to quit trying to push the LT to be a sports bike... as it isn't enjoyable for me to ride it that way. Now I won't ride it like a big fat pig either, but I ain't out to show everyone the capabilities of my bike. I know what she can do, and that's enough for me.
Well put. Thanks

John

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