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Brake System Flush...Options/Cost?

Two questions:

1. Is it possible to do an ABS brake flush by yourself? If so, does it need special equipment, etc?

2. If not, what does it cost from a dealer? Daytona quoted me ~$325. I had to laugh, then wonder if it was unavoidable.

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post #2 of 15 Old Aug 19th, 2008, 2:20 pm
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Re: Brake System Flush...Options/Cost?

Check with one or two other dealers close by, but I believe that quote is about par for the course.
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It really doesn't require anything special, but it does make it easier to do. I did my first flush with nothing more than a small catch bottle from AutoZone and some cut up plastic cutting board for spacers to hold the pistons back during the flush.


I am heading to CCR on Thursday and won't be back until Sep 8th (going to CA after CCR). If you want to come up to Alabama I'd be happy to show you how to do it. Or you can look in the Files, Technical area for my addendum for 05 models and it references Mark Nebletts article on flushing brakes. ( I don't have the links handy here at work).

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Depending on the year of your LT, brake flushes are fairly simple, with very little extra tools or equipment needed. The the 05's and newer are a little more difficult, but it is something you can do yourself. If you are going to the CCR this year, I think they are doing a tech session on brake flushes.
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I would have a word with Daytona and see if they will do it when they have the plastic off. I had a similar thing when there was warranty work on my fuel tank gasket. As I did not have to pay for the tupperware removal it halved the bill to 80 GBP if I remember correctly.

As others have said it is not very difficult and even easier with another pair of hands as the main problem is the speed the reseviors can empty with the servo assistance.

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Re: Brake System Flush...Options/Cost?

Huh. So a little bit of searching on my part and the answer would have been easily found? Sounds about right

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Re: Brake System Flush...Options/Cost?

I flushed my front and rear brakes on my 2001 LT (not integrated brakes) about 3 months ago. And did the clutch about a month ago (requires some tupperware removal). Pretty straight forward - and I am not an expert mechanic (never bled brakes before). I installed speed bleeders (about $8 each) and left them on, planning to bleed every two-three years. The Paul Sayegh DVD is an EXCELLENT guide on that plus all the basic mechanical procedures. I watched it before doing the job. Also there is a good procedure here on this website - do a search or PM me if you want the writeup. Total cost for me was about $30 for the bleeders and the DOT4 brake fluid.

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I had a new front tire, oil change and brake/clutch flush done and bill was a little over $500 (I provided the tire). Because of the ABS I was uncomfortable doing this on my own but may try it next time since I've always done my own with other bikes. Brakes felt different afterwards; a little more sensitive to the lever.

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I flushed my front and rear brakes on my 2001 LT (not integrated brakes) about 3 months ago. And did the clutch about a month ago (requires some tupperware removal). Pretty straight forward - and I am not an expert mechanic (never bled brakes before). I installed speed bleeders (about $8 each) and left them on, planning to bleed every two-three years. The Paul Sayegh DVD is an EXCELLENT guide on that plus all the basic mechanical procedures. I watched it before doing the job. Also there is a good procedure here on this website - do a search or PM me if you want the writeup. Total cost for me was about $30 for the bleeders and the DOT4 brake fluid.
Did you buy the BMW reservoir that screws into the rear master cylinder to allow a greater volume of fluid? At least that is what I gather from reading the service CD. Or are you just extra careful not to deplete the reservoir in the master cylinder?

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You can make your own for a lot less than the $280.00 BMW wants for their funnel and one is almost essential for the 05 and up as the reservoirs are black and not transparent. You can do it without if you measure the fuilsd as you pump it out but it is a lot faster to use a funnel. Here is a nice article on making one. If you order the dual caps for the 05 and up you can share the cost with some one and each build one funnel.


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You can make your own for a lot less than the $280.00 BMW wants for their funnel and one is almost essential for the 05 and up as the reservoirs are black and not transparent. You can do it without if you measure the fuilsd as you pump it out but it is a lot faster to use a funnel. Here is a nice article on making one. If you order the dual caps for the 05 and up you can share the cost with some one and each build one funnel.


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I had never priced the BMW funnel and had no idea it cost that much! I was figuring $20.

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I was a bit shocked as well. I did modify mine from what the article had. After epoxying the funnel I found some interference with the front reservoir and frame, also on the rear reservoir I had to remove the front side panel. To eliminate both issues I cut the funnel about 1 inch above the fitting and put a piece of tygon tubing on it. This allows the funnel to clear the front fairing (don't have to remove it) and also makes it clear the frame on the front reservoir. Much easier. Anyone at CCR will get to see it in action Wednesday Morning at the tech sessions.

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CCR sounds like the place to be. Enjoy.

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Two places in Los Angeles quoted me $225 without removal of the tupperware, $60 extra for that.

I just paid to have it done as it was going in for something else.

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I realize this is a very old post, but i had to respond. The Daytona dealer also quoted me 325.00 for a brake servo system flush on my RT. (I now have an LT of course). I found the price to be unreasonable, so i called the Jacksonville BMW dealer, and and for the same job, (while i waited) they charged me 125.00 out the door. And i know they did it right as i watched them thru the viewing window. Daytona Dealer over charges for everything. I even sent an email to the GM about it, and the answer i received was that the Service department was free to charge what they wanted. Needless to say, i'm one less customer, and i'll drive the 60 miles to Jacksonville for anything i need. It's where i bought my LT by the way, and they gave me an exceptional trade for the RT. Highly recommend them for anyone in this area.
I'm not sure if they will charge the same for the LT, as i'm not needing it at this time. But when i do i'll make sure to post it here.


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