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Any rumors or info on future K1200LT

Its been a while since ive been on the board, but are there any rumors or facts about a newly revised k1200lt in the next year or so?
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Do a thread search - there are as many rumors/facts as posts here...
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Lots of rumors, NO facts. BMW always keeps things VERY quiet until they are ready.

If one believes that the most repeated rumor from different sources has a chance of becoming fact, it is fairly likely it will be a 6 cylinder of some type. Not even that is a sure thing though.

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Just like the major car manufacturers they are downsizing their flag ship model in order to get better fuel economy.

I'm good friends with the Germans and took a new one for a test drive yesterday while they were here at the desert proving grounds - and here's some world exclusive spy photos:

The good news: It now gets 110mpg!

The bad news: If you want to take mom along you'll need to pull her behind on a skateboard with a rope.

The REALLY good news: It now has a CHAIN drive!
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Just like the major car manufacturers they are downsizing their flag ship model in order to get better fuel economy.

I'm good friends with the Germans and took a new one for a test drive yesterday while they were here at the desert proving grounds - and here's some world exclusive spy photos:

The good news: It now gets 110mpg!

The bad news: If you want to take mom along you'll need to pull her behind on a skateboard with a rope.

The REALLY good news: It now has a CHAIN drive!
And worst of all, it has a Honda engine!!

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Hey!

A one lunger like Royal Enfield!

I see the new one no longer has an adjustable windshield?

Did they put the 6 CD changer in the riser box under the seat?

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My niece and her family are hosting a foreign exchange student for the coming academic year. He's from Germany and arrived last week in order to become acclimatized to his new family before school begins.

He saw my BMW and happily told me that he father is an engineer for BMW, working on motorcycle design and testing. I asked him what his father said about upcoming model changes for the LT. He stammered a bit and cleared his throat. I reminded him that he wasn't in the fatherland, so no harm could come to his father if he told me some of the secret information about the next LT.

What he told me is that the next LT will be a 2010 model and is currently undergoing testing (with revised body cladding) in the Alps.

The new model will be called the K1200LT Slash 10, denoting its 2010 introduction. It will weigh 100 kilos less than the current model, thanks to the same rigorous weight reduction program that the RT and GS underwent.

The engine displacement remains at 1.2L, but will appear in a new configuration. There were lengthy discussions within the marketing department regarding preserving the history and iconic nature of BMW Motorrad while at the same time moving into the future with the highest technology feasible. As a result, the LT/10 engine will be a boxer design, preserving the past, but will also be a four cylinder design, representing the technology of the future. The engine has been under development by Rotax, as part of a joint venture with BMW and Subaru.

It reportedly produces 158 hp and 128 lbs/ft of torque. It will have the option of either a conventional 6 speed transmission, or a finger-shifted DSG transmission.

An interesting sidenote is that the engine has been designed to work in a boxer or a V-4 configuration just by changing a few angles on the block. BMW believes that this will lead to economies of scale when the V-4 configuration is mated to BMW's upcoming (2012 model year) mega-scooter, the S1200TR.

The electric system will be entirely new, and is called CAN-BUS II. Wireless technology is used and will completely eliminate all wiring on the bike. Every device will have its own electronic "fingerprint", so confusion about connectivity will be avoided. The ECU will include an encryption program so that no two vehicles will have the same electronic signals thereby avoiding confusion if several LT/10s are near each other.

BMW has, at long last, addressed the final drive problem by developing a "hybrid" final drive system. From the outside, the FD will appear identical to the FD units used on teh K1200GT (including the hole where the axel used to be). The internal workings, however are subtsantially re-worked. Inside the FD case will be a belt drive running from the rear of the transmission to a toothed ring inside the rear of the FD unit. There will be no maintainence required except for a new belt every 3,600 miles.

He didn't have any information about accessories, and we were called to dinner, so that's all the information I could get.

Sounds really, really good to me!

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Sounds pretty good except a new belt every 3600 miles?? Geez.

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My niece and her family are hosting a foreign exchange student for the coming academic year. He's from Germany and arrived last week in order to become acclimatized to his new family before school begins.

He saw my BMW and happily told me that he father is an engineer for BMW, working on motorcycle design and testing. I asked him what his father said about upcoming model changes for the LT. He stammered a bit and cleared his throat. I reminded him that he wasn't in the fatherland, so no harm could come to his father if he told me some of the secret information about the next LT.

What he told me is that the next LT will be a 2010 model and is currently undergoing testing (with revised body cladding) in the Alps.

The new model will be called the K1200LT Slash 10, denoting its 2010 introduction. It will weigh 100 kilos less than the current model, thanks to the same rigorous weight reduction program that the RT and GS underwent.

The engine displacement remains at 1.2L, but will appear in a new configuration. There were lengthy discussions within the marketing department regarding preserving the history and iconic nature of BMW Motorrad while at the same time moving into the future with the highest technology feasible. As a result, the LT/10 engine will be a boxer design, preserving the past, but will also be a four cylinder design, representing the technology of the future. The engine has been under development by Rotax, as part of a joint venture with BMW and Subaru.

It reportedly produces 158 hp and 128 lbs/ft of torque. It will have the option of either a conventional 6 speed transmission, or a finger-shifted DSG transmission.

An interesting sidenote is that the engine has been designed to work in a boxer or a V-4 configuration just by changing a few angles on the block. BMW believes that this will lead to economies of scale when the V-4 configuration is mated to BMW's upcoming (2012 model year) mega-scooter, the S1200TR.

The electric system will be entirely new, and is called CAN-BUS II. Wireless technology is used and will completely eliminate all wiring on the bike. Every device will have its own electronic "fingerprint", so confusion about connectivity will be avoided. The ECU will include an encryption program so that no two vehicles will have the same electronic signals thereby avoiding confusion if several LT/10s are near each other.

BMW has, at long last, addressed the final drive problem by developing a "hybrid" final drive system. From the outside, the FD will appear identical to the FD units used on teh K1200GT (including the hole where the axel used to be). The internal workings, however are subtsantially re-worked. Inside the FD case will be a belt drive running from the rear of the transmission to a toothed ring inside the rear of the FD unit. There will be no maintainence required except for a new belt every 3,600 miles.

He didn't have any information about accessories, and we were called to dinner, so that's all the information I could get.

Sounds really, really good to me!

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This is where you lost me. No kid pays any attention to what his father does or says.
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Some of kids I work with do not even know where their parents work.

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If any of this materializes I would hope at least the 4 cyl boxer motor comes through. I'm a big fan of boxer motors and I see no reason whats so ever why a manufacture needs to make a motorcycle motor bigger then 1200 cc. A buddy of mine stopped by yesterday on an old 1000cc 4cyl Goldwing. That motor is a real gem. With today's current engineering and technology BMW would really have a winner on it's hands. I can't believe a belt change every 3600 miles maybe it's really 36,000 or maybe then can get a chain to do the same-thing. I guess time will tell and if they do come out with a boxer 4 I'm in!
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I stopped by the local BMW dealer yesterday to buy some parts for the 24K. Service. As I was leaving I stopped and chatted with the sales guy. Mainly about the GS sitting on the showroom floor. BTW, I almost traded the LT in for it. Anywho. We started talking about the LTs and why he did not have any on the showroom floor. HE said the 09 were there just not out yet. He did say that the 10s will be redesigned to compete with the Wings. He also told me the 09s were only available in black. Which for some reason I think I heard here 1st. So not much to report but just wanted to add my 2 cents.

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I don't believe much of any of these rumors. No one who really knows is saying---the rest is all speculation.
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My niece and her family are hosting a foreign exchange student for the coming academic year. He's from Germany and arrived last week in order to become acclimatized to his new family before school begins.

He saw my BMW and happily told me that he father is an engineer for BMW, working on motorcycle design and testing. I asked him what his father said about upcoming model changes for the LT. He stammered a bit and cleared his throat. I reminded him that he wasn't in the fatherland, so no harm could come to his father if he told me some of the secret information about the next LT.

What he told me is that the next LT will be a 2010 model and is currently undergoing testing (with revised body cladding) in the Alps.

The new model will be called the K1200LT Slash 10, denoting its 2010 introduction. It will weigh 100 kilos less than the current model, thanks to the same rigorous weight reduction program that the RT and GS underwent.

The engine displacement remains at 1.2L, but will appear in a new configuration. There were lengthy discussions within the marketing department regarding preserving the history and iconic nature of BMW Motorrad while at the same time moving into the future with the highest technology feasible. As a result, the LT/10 engine will be a boxer design, preserving the past, but will also be a four cylinder design, representing the technology of the future. The engine has been under development by Rotax, as part of a joint venture with BMW and Subaru.

It reportedly produces 158 hp and 128 lbs/ft of torque. It will have the option of either a conventional 6 speed transmission, or a finger-shifted DSG transmission.

An interesting sidenote is that the engine has been designed to work in a boxer or a V-4 configuration just by changing a few angles on the block. BMW believes that this will lead to economies of scale when the V-4 configuration is mated to BMW's upcoming (2012 model year) mega-scooter, the S1200TR.

The electric system will be entirely new, and is called CAN-BUS II. Wireless technology is used and will completely eliminate all wiring on the bike. Every device will have its own electronic "fingerprint", so confusion about connectivity will be avoided. The ECU will include an encryption program so that no two vehicles will have the same electronic signals thereby avoiding confusion if several LT/10s are near each other.

BMW has, at long last, addressed the final drive problem by developing a "hybrid" final drive system. From the outside, the FD will appear identical to the FD units used on teh K1200GT (including the hole where the axel used to be). The internal workings, however are subtsantially re-worked. Inside the FD case will be a belt drive running from the rear of the transmission to a toothed ring inside the rear of the FD unit. There will be no maintainence required except for a new belt every 3,600 miles.

He didn't have any information about accessories, and we were called to dinner, so that's all the information I could get.

Sounds really, really good to me!
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And worst of all, it has a Honda engine!!
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My niece and her family are hosting a foreign exchange student for the coming academic year. He's from Germany and arrived last week in order to become acclimatized to his new family before school begins.

He saw my BMW and happily told me that he father is an engineer for BMW, working on motorcycle design and testing. I asked him what his father said about upcoming model changes for the LT. He stammered a bit and cleared his throat. I reminded him that he wasn't in the fatherland, so no harm could come to his father if he told me some of the secret information about the next LT.

What he told me is that the next LT will be a 2010 model and is currently undergoing testing (with revised body cladding) in the Alps.

The new model will be called the K1200LT Slash 10, denoting its 2010 introduction. It will weigh 100 kilos less than the current model, thanks to the same rigorous weight reduction program that the RT and GS underwent.

The engine displacement remains at 1.2L, but will appear in a new configuration. There were lengthy discussions within the marketing department regarding preserving the history and iconic nature of BMW Motorrad while at the same time moving into the future with the highest technology feasible. As a result, the LT/10 engine will be a boxer design, preserving the past, but will also be a four cylinder design, representing the technology of the future. The engine has been under development by Rotax, as part of a joint venture with BMW and Subaru.

It reportedly produces 158 hp and 128 lbs/ft of torque. It will have the option of either a conventional 6 speed transmission, or a finger-shifted DSG transmission.

An interesting sidenote is that the engine has been designed to work in a boxer or a V-4 configuration just by changing a few angles on the block. BMW believes that this will lead to economies of scale when the V-4 configuration is mated to BMW's upcoming (2012 model year) mega-scooter, the S1200TR.

The electric system will be entirely new, and is called CAN-BUS II. Wireless technology is used and will completely eliminate all wiring on the bike. Every device will have its own electronic "fingerprint", so confusion about connectivity will be avoided. The ECU will include an encryption program so that no two vehicles will have the same electronic signals thereby avoiding confusion if several LT/10s are near each other.

BMW has, at long last, addressed the final drive problem by developing a "hybrid" final drive system. From the outside, the FD will appear identical to the FD units used on teh K1200GT (including the hole where the axel used to be). The internal workings, however are subtsantially re-worked. Inside the FD case will be a belt drive running from the rear of the transmission to a toothed ring inside the rear of the FD unit. There will be no maintainence required except for a new belt every 3,600 miles.

He didn't have any information about accessories, and we were called to dinner, so that's all the information I could get.

Sounds really, really good to me!
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The new LT comes with recaps!

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I spoke to a dealer yesterday and this “All New” LT subject came up. He told me he has heard every rumor out there and he is confident that the LT will be virtually the same for the foreseeable future. He also mentioned that there are prototypes out there in various configurations, but none are slated for production. This may be where the rumors like the 6 cylinder 1600 come from. But my personal opinion is, only time will tell.
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I had breakfast with my niece's German foreign exchange student today and in the privacy of a small restaurant, he felt more at ease telling me more about the upcoming /10 LT.

We mostly talked about accessories. BMW is coming out with a feature called 'accessory drive' for the new LT. This system includes a much larger alternator with chain drive coming off the crank. Power will be sent to an area under the topcase where it can be distributed to all accessories.

The topcase can be quickly removed by moving two levers (one on either side) which reveals a rack that includes several 12v outlets, one 110v outlet possibly one 220v outlet. BMW intends to sell a wide array of plug-in accessories, including coffee makers, an electric wok, a blender, a campsite referigerator, a toaster, an air pump, power tools, and job site lighting. Naturally, the riders own electric radios, stereo, speakers, weed whacker, grill, and welding equipment will also work with this system.

He also told me that BMW will offer for the first time a trailer designed to match the LT, and large enough to hold many of the BMW power accessories described above. /10 LTs can be ordered with a trailer hitch, stabilizer, and wiring specifically designed for thsi trailer, which also comes equipped with ABS brakes linked to the bike's braking system. Models with the trailer option will be desginated "LT-TR".

He had a lot of additional information, but we ran out of time, so we're going to meet this weekend for a hamburger. I'm especially eager to learn more about BMW's new scooter, the KSC1200TER.

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AH-HA!!! I thought the /10 was completely wireless?!
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I had breakfast with my niece's German foreign exchange student today and in the privacy of a small restaurant, he felt more at ease telling me more about the upcoming /10 LT.

We mostly talked about accessories. BMW is coming out with a feature called 'accessory drive' for the new LT. This system includes a much larger alternator with chain drive coming off the crank. Power will be sent to an area under the topcase where it can be distributed to all accessories.

The topcase can be quickly removed by moving two levers (one on either side) which reveals a rack that includes several 12v outlets, one 110v outlet possibly one 220v outlet. BMW intends to sell a wide array of plug-in accessories, including coffee makers, an electric wok, a blender, a campsite referigerator, a toaster, an air pump, power tools, and job site lighting. Naturally, the riders own electric radios, stereo, speakers, weed whacker, grill, and welding equipment will also work with this system.

He also told me that BMW will offer for the first time a trailer designed to match the LT, and large enough to hold many of the BMW power accessories described above. /10 LTs can be ordered with a trailer hitch, stabilizer, and wiring specifically designed for thsi trailer, which also comes equipped with ABS brakes linked to the bike's braking system. Models with the trailer option will be desginated "LT-TR".

He had a lot of additional information, but we ran out of time, so we're going to meet this weekend for a hamburger. I'm especially eager to learn more about BMW's new scooter, the KSC1200TER.

More when I have it.

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Make sure they throw a spare final drive or two in that trailer as well...
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I took my niece's German foreign exchange student out for a classic American 'burger, fries and chocolate shake last night. His name is Hienrich, and he's a nice kid. He speaks English very well, and has a keen interest in everything American.

We were talking about Harley's 105th Anniversary Party which begins this week (we live near Milwaukee) and he mentioned that his father told him about BMW's 100th Anniversary edition of the /10 LT.

I was taken aback by this news and asked him a few questions, the first one being 'how can a company that built its first motorcycle in 1923 celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2010?'

BMW's reasoning is that if you convert 75 years (the approximate number of years they've built motorcycles) into metric, it equals about 100 years, hence the 100th anniversary. I did some quick mental math and concluded that their numbers are a bit off, since 62.5 regular years converts to 100 metric years. Anyhow, it's apparently a marketing department matter, and BMW feels the need to compete with HD.

BMW envies HD's ability to sell high-margin special edition bikes (HD's CVO edition bikes), and intends to bring out their own special edition of the /10 LT.

It will be called the 'Speziell K'. The boxer engine will be uprated by approx 20 horsepower and have a custom-looking chrome four-into-two exhaust system with pipes on both sides of the bike. This custom exhaust sytem will be called the 'Aigle Criant' pipes. I'll have to get my German-English translator out of mothballs and find out what that phrase means.

The Speziell K bike will feature very unsual body panels. All of the body panels will be made from lightly smoked clear Lexan, including the fairing, the top case, the saddle bags, etc. Every piece of body work will be smoked Lexan, creating a see-through effect. The frame parts will be painted blue and white (same colors as are in BMW's logs), and many of the engine/transmission parts will be chromed. There will be LEDs hidden inside the body so the bikes innards can be illuminated at night, at bike shows, at boom box night, etc. This is going to be a very neat feature, I think, adding some long-overdue bling to the K bike.

I think this may explain why BMW has gone to a completely wireless electric system for the /10, as I learned about previously and included in an earlier post. They want the see-through Speziell K to look really clean and high-tech, so they got rid of the wires. Clever!

A big advantage of the Lexan body will be that the rider can see into the topcase and saddlebags without having to open them, making it far easier to determine where thinks were packed when a trip began. Questions like 'honey, do you remember where I packed the torx wrench kit?' will be a thing of the past. Hiding a firearm in your saddlebag, will, of course, become more difficult.

It was a pretty interesting hour I spent with Heinrich. He's starting to loosen up a bit, and is a nice kid. I've promised him a ride on my Harley this afternoon, and maybe I'll be able to get a bit more information about the next LT.

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I took my niece's German foreign exchange student out for a classic American 'burger, fries and chocolate shake last night. His name is Hienrich, and he's a nice kid. He speaks English very well, and has a keen interest in everything American.

We were talking about Harley's 105th Anniversary Party which begins this week (we live near Milwaukee) and he mentioned that his father told him about BMW's 100th Anniversary edition of the /10 LT.

I was taken aback by this news and asked him a few questions, the first one being 'how can a company that built its first motorcycle in 1923 celebrate its 100th anniversary in 2010?'

BMW's reasoning is that if you convert 75 years (the approximate number of years they've built motorcycles) into metric, it equals about 100 years, hence the 100th anniversary. I did some quick mental math and concluded that their numbers are a bit off, since 62.5 regular years converts to 100 metric years. Anyhow, it's apparently a marketing department matter, and BMW feels the need to compete with HD.

BMW envies HD's ability to sell high-margin special edition bikes (HD's CVO edition bikes), and intends to bring out their own special edition of the /10 LT.

It will be called the 'Speziell K'. The boxer engine will be uprated by approx 20 horsepower and have a custom-looking chrome four-into-two exhaust system with pipes on both sides of the bike. This custom exhaust sytem will be called the 'Aigle Criant' pipes. I'll have to get my German-English translator out of mothballs and find out what that phrase means.

The Speziell K bike will feature very unsual body panels. All of the body panels will be made from lightly smoked clear Lexan, including the fairing, the top case, the saddle bags, etc. Every piece of body work will be smoked Lexan, creating a see-through effect. The frame parts will be painted blue and white (same colors as are in BMW's logs), and many of the engine/transmission parts will be chromed. There will be LEDs hidden inside the body so the bikes innards can be illuminated at night, at bike shows, at boom box night, etc. This is going to be a very neat feature, I think, adding some long-overdue bling to the K bike.

I think this may explain why BMW has gone to a completely wireless electric system for the /10, as I learned about previously and included in an earlier post. They want the see-through Speziell K to look really clean and high-tech, so they got rid of the wires. Clever!

A big advantage of the Lexan body will be that the rider can see into the topcase and saddlebags without having to open them, making it far easier to determine where thinks were packed when a trip began. Questions like 'honey, do you remember where I packed the torx wrench kit?' will be a thing of the past. Hiding a firearm in your saddlebag, will, of course, become more difficult.

It was a pretty interesting hour I spent with Heinrich. He's starting to loosen up a bit, and is a nice kid. I've promised him a ride on my Harley this afternoon, and maybe I'll be able to get a bit more information about the next LT.
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