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post #1 of 3 Old Jul 16th, 2008, 1:51 am Thread Starter
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Thinking of buying an LT... have questions.

Hi, (again)

I'm thinking about buying a K1200LT with the GPS system and the intercom. I would like both to have bluetooth compatability. my questions are simply this:

1) Will the GPS bluetooth speak through the bluetooth helmet headphones?
2) The helmet headphones, do they fit inside the full coverage helmets?
3) Will my bluetooth enabled phone work such that I can speak through the helmet microphone and hear through the helmet speakers.
4) Will the existing stereo play through the bluetooth helmet speakers?

Thanks again for your help in the past!

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post #2 of 3 Old Jul 16th, 2008, 3:19 am
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Re: Thinking of buying an LT... have questions.

I'll do what I can to answer a few of these, but no promises as a lot depends on your equipment. Specifically, what BT GPS and what BT headsets you choose to purchase. I am a bit confused here as you also mention an intercom.

1) If your system comes with an intercom, like the Voice II, then the GPS will be wired directly in to the intercom (assuming you use the BMW instalaltion kit) and output fromt he GPS will be heard in the wired (not BT) helmet speakers.

If you purchase a third party BT headset for your helmet and do not have an intercom, the picture changes a bit. Output from the 2820 is desinged to work with external (wired or not) speakers. The 2820 has no BT microphone input, hower. Not sure of the Zumo. If you can sync your headset to the 2820 it should work fine for output.

2) The J&M headsets (there are two version - Elite about $300 and Universal about $135) are made for BMW and can only be purchased from a BMW dealer. These fit just fine. I have the Elite set of speakers and interface designed for the Nolan 102 helmet. Any full face helmet will work, including modular ones.

3) To get a BT phone to work with the Voice II requires one of two methods:

A) If your phone has a direct headset output, you can connect an adapter cable form your phone directly in to the Voice II's phone input.

B) If your phone does not have a direct output, but only supports BT for output then you need a Motorola HF-820. It's a hands free kit using BT. You connect the HF-820 to the phone input on th eVoice II and then sync it to the GPS using BT. You sync your phone to the GPS (GPS in this case is all based on the 2820 or Navigator III). That provides the ability to allow you to use the GPS BT functions to control the phone and access to the phone book. Plus it provides the ability to use the wired headset (driver or passenger) to talk over the phone. And it allows the driver and passenger to both hear the GPS commands. Without the HF-820 only the driver hears the GPS through the wired headset.

4) The radio/CD will play through the wired (intercom) headsets.

Now, having said all that if you think the BMW (any of them) intercom systems use BT to communincate to the headsets, you are mistaken. They are all wired systems. You have to go with a third party intercom to get BT headsets.

Camos is coming out with a BT adapter that is supposed to wrok with an 5~8 pin wired system. I've seen the announcement, but no product as of yet. Or pricing. Nolan also has a similar system coming out, but I'm still waiting to see when it will come out and just how it will work. What I do know about the J&M system form my e-mail conversation is that you will basically need to repalce all the hardware in your helmet. Or in other words, throw away the $300 you've already invested in it. J&M may offer an update that uses the exisiting speakers (per my e-mails with J&M), but there is no guarentee and it will still (probably) be a costly upgrade.

There are other third party BT intercom systems, but you'd still need to purchase a BT headset depending on what system you chose.

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Re: Thinking of buying an LT... have questions.

There is no one system take all with the BT stuff. Here is a link to a site that does review and on the right hand side are related reviews of BT systems and wired systems that have BT adapters.

The other issue that I have found is that the head set speakers are good either for music or voice. If you want a voice system then the music in the headset isn't as good and if you want music the voice isn't as good.

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