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post #1 of 19 Old Jul 9th, 2008, 10:15 pm Thread Starter
 
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Question Oil sight WTF

I need some input please

Changed Oil / Filter and Oil sight

I used 3.8 quarts = 3.5 liters of Oil..

Started bike / rode bike - let sit for 10 min. on side stand - no oil in new oil sight - put bike on center stand - no oil in sight...

No leaks / no clutch problems what the heck is going on
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It appears that your oil sight is dirty and you can no longer see through...

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post #3 of 19 Old Jul 9th, 2008, 11:13 pm Thread Starter
 
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Re: Oil sight WTF

Nope, Brand New as stated - OEM BMW $ 18.00 new Oil sight


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I need some input please

Changed Oil / Filter and Oil sight

I used 3.8 quarts = 3.5 liters of Oil..

Started bike / rode bike - let sit for 10 min. on side stand - no oil in new oil sight - put bike on center stand - no oil in sight...

No leaks / no clutch problems what the heck is going on
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Are you sure it isn't totally above the new sight glass?

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Oil sight WTF

You should put the oil in gradually. Preload the filter with oil. Watch it come up in the window as you are putting it in. Start the bike run for 1 minute. Shut the bike off and wait for the oil to appear. This will take a minute or two. The oil should only be half way up the window not to the top of the window. I always fill the oil up slowly, run the bike add a bit more till it's half way up the window. I was told to do it this way by my dealer.

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I think your filled just above the glass. The oil was added, test rode with no leaks. Unless you shorted the fill by a quart? It can happen with these 5 gal jugs and the slow pour of the oil.

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Re: Oil sight WTF

You likely overfilled the oil a bit I did the exact same thing. Drained,measured and poured new oil.Couldnt tell if it was overfull or empty. If you are checking the oil on the center stand try it on the side stand. Worked for me.Since I could read it on the side stand I just went with it ,no problems
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Re: Oil sight WTF

Question....do you have aftermarket shocks? A bike that sits higher will lean farther on the side stand causing the level to appear lower than it really is.


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Re: Oil sight WTF

These threads always get to me.

First run the bike to warm and then on Center Stand, wait 10 minutes and look.

This is one of the reasons I INSIST 3.8. At 3.8 you can see a very faint gap at the top of the sight glass. With 4 you never see anything. I do know that 3.8 to 4.0 is not an issue, EXCEPT for seeing your oil level in that sight glass.

Also never get the folks who say half way on the sight glass. Cant be. I have changed oil twice at 3000, and 9000. Dealer 600, and 6000. All times with 3.8 it breaks just at the top of the sight glass on center stand.

Also you have to remember it don't take but an oz or two to move the oil around in that sight glass.

Being old, sometimes I shine a flash light on it to really light it up and with a new glass you should be able to see oil.

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No afater Market Shocks

I poured in 3.5 quarts (been working racing bikes since 1976 ) then measuerd out the rest with my ratio rite poured in waited to see the oil....nothing..

Could the privious owner added a larger oil pan ?
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I get the same thing every time I fill up with oil. Get a really good tourch and try loads of angles. If the beam replects, it is low, if it is dark, it is too full.
I have also never added the amounts stated in the manual - it never takes that much as it is near impossible to get all the oils out.

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If you poured in that much you have enough to be safe. With the bike on the center stand start the engine and observe the sight glass. With a warm engine the oil will dissapear from the glass. Then observe the sight glass and shut down the engine, you will see the oil re-appear and most likely rise above the sight.

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"Could the privious owner added a larger oil pan ?"
Nope.
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Re: Oil sight WTF

In your first post you mentioned that you changed out the site glass. I don't know the first thing about what one looks like on the back side....but is it possible that it could be installed upside down and the holes that allow the oil into the glass are on the top instead of the bottom?

Sorry for the wild guess, but it seemed like a possibilty.

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Now simma down! if you added the oil, it's there. Is your sight glass black? Maybe it's just covered. I'm not seen oil in the sight glass, but usually putting a flash light on it i can tell.
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I poured in 3.5 quarts (been working racing bikes since 1976 ) then measuerd out the rest with my ratio rite poured in waited to see the oil....nothing..

Could the privious owner added a larger oil pan ?
There is no larger oil pan for the LT.

I'll echo what some folks here said - put it on the center stand, fire it up and run it for a few minutes, ten shut it off and watch the site glass. You can wait a while, or just sit there and watch to see when the oil level starts coming up.

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Well, took the LT to the delaer where I purchased the Oil Sight..

Free Oil Change / Filter / New Oil Sight and we ( dealer and I ) found that the sight I purchased 3 days ago had no oil vent holes into the sight



This is so clasic , I never paid attention to the lack of oil vent holes , just figured this was how the BMW folks made these things

I am soooo bad, but live and learn

Thanks for all the inputs - never saw this coming
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replacing the site glass souds like a good idea as I have a hard time reading mine. Did it help and what does it take to do it
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replacing the site glass souds like a good idea as I have a hard time reading mine. Did it help and what does it take to do it
Very easy - just take your time no rush

On Center Stand: Drain the Engine Oil - good time to change filter

Remove engine lower section plastic ( tupperware ) on the oil sight side (which is the brake side of bike ) - real easy to do

I took a screw driver and broke the glass - tap gently as you do not want to go through the metal backing..

I used a 11-Inch Straight - 45 Degree Angle Extra Long Needle Nose Plier
( these were great when upgrading to the new throttle / cable ) reached into the metal backing - one of the holes - and pulled - this takes a lot of effort

Installing - use a 30mm socket - a rubber hammer - NO Lube makes sure this area is dry as well as the new sight glass.... this will make sense when you have it ready

GENTLY tap in sight glass - make sure there is a finger nail "lip" then you know it's all the way in...

Now install Oil / Oil Filter etc......

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