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post #1 of 19 Old Dec 22nd, 2005, 3:27 pm Thread Starter
 
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Question I like my bike but what the heck rattles?

I have a 05 with about 1700 miles on it. Right from the start the thing has rattled. This rattle sounds like it has something to do with the plastic fairing as it is more common when I go over small a bump or when the clutch chatters at take off. It is not consistent and it doesn't rattle everytime but it usually happens when there are other people around like at an intersection. It seems to make my bike sound like a piece of junk and is a little embarrassing. I took the bike in for the 600 mile service and naturally they couldn't duplicate the noise? They were unable to hear the squealing back brake either, but that is another topic.
Is this common? Do all k1200lt's rattle or is it just mine? I hope that this in not a universal problem as I would like to correct it.
I would appreciate any feed back you could give me.
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post #2 of 19 Old Dec 22nd, 2005, 3:48 pm
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I have a 05 with about 1700 miles on it. Right from the start the thing has rattled. This rattle sounds like it has something to do with the plastic fairing as it is more common when I go over small a bump or when the clutch chatters at take off.
You might check the space between the top and bottom fairing pieces at the very front on both sides. I put some thin foam in between the two to keep them from rattling.

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I went chasing a rattle on my bike and i found it.
The rattle was from the exhasut. Around the exhaust there is a chrome cover.
There was a few screws at the front at had fallen out.
To check this is simple, the left side foot peg comes off with 3 x screws (the gear shift side) behind this you will see the chrome cover over the exhaust. there is about 3 or 4 screws that you can easily get to.
Two of these had fallen out on my bike.

Replaced and added some medium strength loctite and now there is *NO* rattle from my bike at all.
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Oh yeah, another thing i forgot to add.
The black plastic covers , the tip over wings.
Remove those covers and inspect the plastic fairing and make sure there is not plastic broken.
On mine there was a piece of plastic broken and was vibrating like crazy.
The plastic lived under the black plastic tip over wing and is held on with a few screws.
I removed it and put 2 small holes on the fairing one each side of the hole and put a small zip tie thru. drowned it in JB weld. all is good.
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Thumbs up Rattle suggestion thank you.

Thank you very much for the suggestions. I don't think that the rattle that I am hearing is spark knock or engine noise. To me it sounds more like a rattle behind the plastic fairing. I will check out all of you suggestions and hopefully it will solve the problem. I was also glad to hear that you had no rattles. This is a small problem but with this bike being what it is I want it to sound as good as it looks.
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Yup. Dealer put the "fabric" side of black Velcro on one side where the lower fairing contacts the upper, all the way at the front.

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You clearly need to replace your stock pipe with a Remus exhaust, get a Rhinewest performance chip, a canisterectomy, Highway Ottomans, an HID low-beam, and a hard-wired Garmin 376c. After removing/replacing the tupperware to install those items (tightening all screws to maximum allowable torque), the noise should have disappeared. If not, the noise from the Remus pipe should mask the noise and you'll have all those new gadgets to distract you so you don't notice it anymore. Oh, don't forget to buy a BMW cupholder.

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You might be right. I have a Harley Springer Softail with Bub shotgun pipes and that bike doesn't rattle.
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Is it a rattle or a squeak? I have an 03 and have experienced a chirping squeaking in the front fairing lower. In the area where the lower meets the upper... in front. It's plastic against plastic.
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Im sorry to hear about your rattle, esp on a new one, my bike did the same thing and the dealor found a cracked convertor in my exhaust,they replaced it under warranty,also they took the tupperware off and added stripes of rubber. I found that my engine at start up vibrated - till the computer sinked itself to my riding habits, I since learned if you turn the key on and do NOT start the engine rotate your throttle full open then full closed twice it will sink the computer and hopefuly idle smoother. Or just simply put some long miles on your machine to help break it in...matthew -- Happy Trails
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1/8" weather stripping works great if it's where the lower and upper farings meet, which is a common location. Cereal box cut-outs work wonders for the rear brake noise and you already own the parts required I'm sure.
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Check the little chrome pieces where the windshield mounts, they aren't an indication of a loose windshield but will irritate you occasionally. The fix is to remove them, bend the little tabs that hold them and put them back on (or do away with them and install metal strips using slightly longer screws through the windshield).

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You might be right. I have a Harley Springer Softail with Bub shotgun pipes and that bike doesn't rattle.

No, but I'm sure it shakes...

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You might be right. I have a Harley Springer Softail with Bub shotgun pipes and that bike doesn't rattle.
With that much noise, how would you know??

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You can duplicate most ratttles by tapping on the suspect parts. Put bike on centerstand and get yourself a rubber mallet. and start tapping on the suspect area. A real area that resonates on my '05 is the front fender. I repositioned is slightly and it has mostley gone away. the front fender is two piece and I suspect it resonates where it is joined together. Anyway it is not bad enough to take off and investigate anymore since the slight adjustemnt made. Also this bike is more prone to this stuff in the cold for obvious reasons--fill out your profile so we can tell where you are from.
One more thing---if you put this much bodywork on your Softtail do you think it would not rattle?
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1/8" weather stripping works great if it's where the lower and upper farings meet, which is a common location. Cereal box cut-outs work wonders for the rear brake noise and you already own the parts required I'm sure.
Could you be more specific with the cereal box cut outs that will solve my rear brake squeal.
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You can duplicate most ratttles by tapping on the suspect parts. Put bike on centerstand and get yourself a rubber mallet. and start tapping on the suspect area. A real area that resonates on my '05 is the front fender. I repositioned is slightly and it has mostley gone away. the front fender is two piece and I suspect it resonates where it is joined together. Anyway it is not bad enough to take off and investigate anymore since the slight adjustemnt made. Also this bike is more prone to this stuff in the cold for obvious reasons--fill out your profile so we can tell where you are from.
One more thing---if you put this much bodywork on your Softtail do you think it would not rattle?
I'm sure that it would rattle. As far as that goes, with those pipes it may rattle now.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Could you be more specific with the cereal box cut outs that will solve my rear brake squeal.
From another thread:

"Remove the pads, trace them on a cereal box, cut out the "shim" and reinstall the pads with the shims. Results, no squealing."

Note that the cardboard shim goes between the brake pad and the caliper, one on each side. They will eventually wear away, especially if you ride in the rain a lot, but they do help.

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