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In Norway that is, with custom fees and registration!
That price is the normal price for such a bike with that equiptment, year and shape it is in.

And I am alowed to import and sell one bike each year without paying tax on the money I make on it. So now I put the normal sales price on and if someone wants it they will have to pay that amount, afterall they would take away best time of year riding the bike, from me that is, that will cost them!

So if this goes then I will buy another one from the US during winter. Any bike that is 2003 modell or 2004 modell that is registered before 17 june 2003 goes (and 1`st registration date have to be shown on title)
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I can only say I can buy TWO new 08 LT's for that price. Good luck with that.

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I know, and sometimes I wish I lived there, becouse of that!

A new 08 here is US$ 57.000.-

Unlike the US, europe have generally high second hand prices on beemers.
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A new 08 here is US$ 57.000.-
Unlike the US, europe have generally high second hand prices on beemers.
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Just curious!
If a new LT costs $57,000 US, how much would a BMW 750 cost there?
Here it is $80,000 plus sales tax of $4,800 and personal property tax/registration fees of $1240 for a grand total of $86,040.

I have a friend who is a Colonel in the Italian Air Force. When here was stationed here he was buying all sorts of stuff and exporting them to his friends it Italy. Rolex's are half the cost as they are in Italy. Harley pistions are 1/4 the price. He was even looking for Ducati parts here is the USA, go figure!

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paalao,
Just curious!
If a new LT costs $57,000 US, how much would a BMW 750 cost there?
Here it is $80,000 plus sales tax of $4,800 and personal property tax/registration fees of $1240 for a grand total of $86,040.

I have a friend who is a Colonel in the Italian Air Force. When here was stationed here he was buying all sorts of stuff and exporting them to his friends it Italy. Rolex's are half the cost as they are in Italy. Harley pistions are 1/4 the price. He was even looking for Ducati parts here is the USA, go figure!

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A prime example of socialism. This is why socialist countries may be good countries but, unlike the USA, they will never be great countries.
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[QUOTE=norriscooper]paalao,
Just curious!
If a new LT costs $57,000 US, how much would a BMW 750 cost there?
Here it is $80,000 plus sales tax of $4,800 and personal property tax/registration fees of $1240 for a grand total of $86,040.

Hi Norris
A 750 starts at $288.571.- then the goodies will have to be added.
like metalic paint another 2 grand, etc...
Tax and regustration fees is included in that price.


I have a friend who is a Colonel in the Italian Air Force. When here was stationed here he was buying all sorts of stuff and exporting them to his friends it Italy. Rolex's are half the cost as they are in Italy. Harley pistions are 1/4 the price. He was even looking for Ducati parts here is the USA, go figure!

Yes US goods is cheap, actualy it is very cheap! Much becouse the taxes added in european countries is so much higher. Luxury taxes you may say.

And 08 LT cost $26.530.- from BMW germany direct to dealers in europe before taxes of any kind, that is 5k more then in the USA!
And in Denmark which have the highest vehicle prices of them all, you have to pay $ 101.000.- for a new 08 LT!!!

And now with the politics you have and a depleted econemy the dollar have lost a lot of value so goods from the USA is allmost half price now compared to when Bill ran the ship. A US dollar in 2001 cost me 9.2 Norwegian kroner, now it cost me 4.9 Norwegian kroner! And The US dollar will decrease 10-30% more in value maybe this year alone. Making everything even more cheaper


These costs are part of the payments for Universal healtcare etc amd to keep such high standards. But then again the general salery is on average much higher then the USA

If I moved to the USA and worked any job for 2 years, then I could bring with me the vehicles I bought there (and had for the two years) taxfree home. But I would have to own them additional some years before I could sell them.
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A 750 starts at $288.571.- then the goodies will have to be added.
like metalic paint another 2 grand, etc...
Tax and regustration fees is included in that price.[/B]

[B]Yes US goods is cheap, actualy it is very cheap! Much becouse the taxes added in european countries is so much higher. Luxury taxes you may say.

And 08 LT cost $26.530.- from BMW germany direct to dealers in europe before taxes of any kind, that is 5k more then in the USA!
And in Denmark which have the highest vehicle prices of them all, you have to pay $ 101.000.- for a new 08 LT!!!

And now with the politics you have and a depleted econemy the dollar have lost a lot of value so goods from the USA is allmost half price now compared to when Bill ran the ship.
Thanks paalao,
It seems that BMW and other European companies are selling their products at a loss here in the USA but making up the difference elsewhere.
However they can and do hedge (lock in) their exchange ratios by trading currency on the CME. http://www.cme.com/trading/prd/fx/index.html

Is everything taxed like that or is it just the "luxuries" like motorcycles, cars, boats? How about food?

When my Italian friend was here he lived like a King, he was being paid in Euros.

You watch too much America TV news.
The economy here in Kansas is great, except for cattle. The low dollar is helping because of exports. Wheat and corn are at an all time high.
Just try to order a new Beech or Cessna Jet. You will be put on a two year waiting list.
Boeing can't build enough airliners.
Homes in this area have not gone down in value as they have in some places.
If I wanted to drill an oil well it would be well over a year before I could get a rig!

Salaries are kind of a relative thing. Example: My son is in the oil business in Texas. He makes good money but they don't have to pay him as much as if he lived on the coasts because the cost of living is cheaper there. Texas has no state income tax, housing costs are less as is his insurance.

I a way we do have universal health care. A hospital (non private) cannot refuse treatment to anyone. If they don't pay, and many don't, they just jack up the rates of those of us who do pay.

Don't give too much credit to Clinton or Bush.
It is the Federal Reserve Chairman who is the most powerful man in the world!

I am boiling oil, sharpening my battle axes, and filling my moat with snakes in anticipation of a Viking invasion!!!!!
But you are going to be busy fighting off the H-D riders, if they can find Norway!

Time for a ride!
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Thanks paalao,
It seems that BMW and other European companies are selling their products at a loss here in the USA but making up the difference elsewhere.
However they can and do hedge (lock in) their exchange ratios by trading currency on the CME. http://www.cme.com/trading/prd/fx/index.html

Is everything taxed like that or is it just the "luxuries" like motorcycles, cars, boats? How about food?

When my Italian friend was here he lived like a King, he was being paid in Euros.

You watch too much America TV news.
The economy here in Kansas is great, except for cattle. The low dollar is helping because of exports. Wheat and corn are at an all time high.
Just try to order a new Beech or Cessna Jet. You will be put on a two year waiting list.
Boeing can't build enough airliners.
Homes in this area have not gone down in value as they have in some places.
If I wanted to drill an oil well it would be well over a year before I could get a rig!

Salaries are kind of a relative thing. Example: My son is in the oil business in Texas. He makes good money but they don't have to pay him as much as if he lived on the coasts because the cost of living is cheaper there. Texas has no state income tax, housing costs are less as is his insurance.

I a way we do have universal health care. A hospital (non private) cannot refuse treatment to anyone. If they don't pay, and many don't, they just jack up the rates of those of us who do pay.

Don't give too much credit to Clinton or Bush.
It is the Federal Reserve Chairman who is the most powerful man in the world!

I am boiling oil, sharpening my battle axes, and filling my moat with snakes in anticipation of a Viking invasion!!!!!
But you are going to be busy fighting off the H-D riders, if they can find Norway!

Time for a ride!
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If you are trying to convince "Pablo" * that the USA is a good place to live you are wasting your time. He may be a former Mensa member but he is imune to logic. And he is still trying to learn how to use a spell checker...

*he had said that while living in the US a while back he went by "Paul" to be politically correct these days he should go by "Pablo"

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The economy here in Kansas is great, except for cattle. The low dollar is helping because of exports. Wheat and corn are at an all time high.
"Helping" is the key word there. If something doesn't happen with the input costs, we will be paying nearly twice as much for our meat within a year. I've already heard that 2 ethanol plants are shutting down. You don't even want to know what swine and beef farms are losing. What happens if we have a drought this year and corn yield drops? $9 corn, $5 milk, $4 pork!

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[QUOTE=norriscooper]Thanks paalao,
It seems that BMW and other European companies are selling their products at a loss here in the USA but making up the difference elsewhere.
However they can and do hedge (lock in) their exchange ratios by trading currency on the CME. http://www.cme.com/trading/prd/fx/index.html

Is everything taxed like that or is it just the "luxuries" like motorcycles, cars, boats? How about food?

Anything fun is ;( Sigarettes is 20 dollars a 20 pack, a bottle of vodka is 60+ dollars, fuel for the bike is 13 dollars a US gallon. A beer in a bar is 12 dollars, small one. Food stuff have an tax rate of 13% while eveyrthing else is at 25% and the tax is included in the conter price. Boats only have 25% VAT tax but they have to be CE marked If I want to import from the USA + there is hp tax and engine volume tax

When my Italian friend was here he lived like a King, he was being paid in Euros.

Remember I lived there to and I even bought my fuel for a cropduster I use to own PA 25 at the local farmers union marked, paying no hwy tax on it and I think my average gallon price was around 75 cents back in the day

You watch too much America TV news.

I watch news from all over the world, most of the tv stations runs international news for most of their segment and no commercials in between, just before and after.

The economy here in Kansas is great, except for cattle. The low dollar is helping because of exports. Wheat and corn are at an all time high.

Cattle and food stuff should increase in value, becouse the investors is now investing in food markeds. There is large riots in poor countries now becouse the investors have bought huge stocks and keep them short to the marked to inflate prices. Thailand among other as not exporting rice until they have increased their main storage facilities and it is making a huge hunger epedemic especially in africa and some asian countries. New ways of making monety in exploiting others. Export is good for goods that does not need to be imported first like raw materials and it takes a while before the full impact of the econemyof the country bites everyone. And when your state have sustainable business in ranches etc then you will be learning the economical crises later.


Just try to order a new Beech or Cessna Jet. You will be put on a two year waiting list.

I think there have been wayting list for them for many years and with all the new rich who made money on the no bid contracts in war torn areas and oil is now buying more luxury stuff, and now the VLJ market is comming for full but with fairly good prices.


Boeing can't build enough airliners. And sadly cant make new developtments fly either
Homes in this area have not gone down in value as they have in some places.
If I wanted to drill an oil well it would be well over a year before I could get a rig!

Salaries are kind of a relative thing. Example: My son is in the oil business in Texas. He makes good money but they don't have to pay him as much as if he lived on the coasts because the cost of living is cheaper there. Texas has no state income tax, housing costs are less as is his insurance.

Yes a normal pattern, my country is one of the most exspencive countries to live in. The feul prices is the higest in the world but if you look at income then our gasoline is among the cheapest in europe.

I a way we do have universal health care. A hospital (non private) cannot refuse treatment to anyone. If they don't pay, and many don't, they just jack up the rates of those of us who do pay.

Yes but not with the best equiptment or staff and if there is a certain medication needed or operation they may not get it. Just think of it, the USA pays the higest rates for medication in the world becouse the marked there is almost non regulated while in other countries there is strict regulations of what prices the pharma companies is alowed to charge. And the USA pay more pr citizen on healtcare then we do and we have Univercal Healtcare

Don't give too much credit to Clinton or Bush.
It is the Federal Reserve Chairman who is the most powerful man in the world!

I will give lots of credit for Clinton and he is regarded in europe as the best president you ever had, while the other is considered t be the absolute worst and you can prove it by looking at their records. Bush is simply a major con job on absolutely everything he have done. Why os ot that the US never learn? Always when a republican president have been ion power the econemy is full of debt when they leave and then a democrat president have to come in and save the ship and how can he without raicing taxes? Then the republicans lie about taxbrakes to the oommon people to get elected and then it is same all over again. Frankly it is amazing how short minded 50% of the population is


I am boiling oil, sharpening my battle axes, and filling my moat with snakes in anticipation of a Viking invasion!!!!!
But you are going to be busy fighting off the H-D riders, if they can find Norway!

Hate snakes and dont lie boiling oil and I am sure you are better with the axe then I am so I gues I will have to come by air hehe I`ll rent a chopper

Time for a ride!

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If you are trying to convince "Pablo" * that the USA is a good place to live you are wasting your time. He may be a former Mensa member but he is imune to logic. And he is still trying to learn how to use a spell checker...

Wolfgang you have not paid attention in class, I have mentione several good stuff about the USA, But in politics they suck bigtime.
And you beeing german should easily understand all I say even when there is typos and even having been a member of mensa I still am dyslectic and if I should spell check all I write in all the english speaking forums and places I am at then I would have no spare time to do anything else. I am sure you to understand that. But I do not feel insultet by your little pun there


*he had said that while living in the US a while back he went by "Paul" to be politically correct these days he should go by "Pablo"
Pablo Picasso? Thanks
But explain to me why Pablo would be political correct? Do you mean there is a damn smart mexican with similar name there? hehe

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Wolfgang you beeing first generation German living in Texas I am sure that your prononsiation is not 100 %, germans usualy are broader that way.

I however speak english perfect with a Texan accent I have been told..sadly since I`d rather have a yankee accent no pun intended...oh heck just a little one hehe

Anyway good night all way past my bedtime here and tomorrow I have to start my tax forms

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"Helping" is the key word there. If something doesn't happen with the input costs, we will be paying nearly twice as much for our meat within a year. I've already heard that 2 ethanol plants are shutting down. You don't even want to know what swine and beef farms are losing. What happens if we have a drought this year and corn yield drops? $9 corn, $5 milk, $4 pork!
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I will give lots of credit for Clinton and he is regarded in europe as the best president you ever had,)
And that's why Europeans don't vote in our elections. Clinton was the biggest P.O.S. president we've had the misfortune to have in office in a long time.
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[QUOTE=ironbuttwannabe I've already heard that 2 ethanol plants are shutting down. You don't even want to know what swine and beef farms are losing. [/QUOTE]

Ironbutt,
More than two! Even with fuel tax cuts on ethanol.

I know exactly what beef is losing. I am a cattle rancher and feedlot owner.

But my point is all is no bad here!

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If you are trying to convince "Pablo" * that the USA is a good place to live you are wasting your time. He may be a former Mensa member but he is imune to logic. And he is still trying to learn how to use a spell checker... "
The difficulty herein lies with the hypocrisy and impossibility of defending an indefensible philosophy. For someone who apparantly does not like the USA and/or everything we represent, he certainly spends a tremendous amount of time (see Norris Coopers thread of 4/25/08 in the Chit-Chat forum) expounding on his perceived deficiencies relating to the US's economy, politics, educational system, etc., and also said something to the effect of "maybe we Americans will someday, again, have something to be proud of" (paraphrased). I personally would have to have great interest and admiration for a subject to spend that much time discussing, analyzing, or studying that subject.

I think our little buddy has a bad case of envy and, despite his protestations, is just like everyone else in this world taking pot-shots at us. They want what we have and they want it given to them. We give generously, both governmental and private sector, to the world; no other country comes close to the help we provide developed and undeveloped countries. We protect our friends (and our enemies) when called upon to do so. We provide nearly all of the budget for NATO. We provide opportunity that exists nowhere else in the world. We welcome people from all over the world. We encourage and promote invention, innovation, and development. For all our generosity and attempts at policing unruly factions on this planet, we are criticized, ridiculed, and scorned by those who owe their very existence to the USA.

Do you not believe the USA is a great country? Perhaps you recall a statement Tony Blair, the British PM, made when asked why he was such a staunch supporter of US policies and why he so much liked the USA. To paraphrase his statement: "I gauge the greatness of a country by looking at the number of people either trying to enter, or leave, that country".
I see millions upon millions of people from around the world wanting to become US citizens because of what this country has to offer. As an American I have much of which to be proud.

The life you enjoy in your country (along with the rest of Scandanavia and Europe), is possible because the US is ready to intervene, just as we did in WWII, should the need arise. It would certainly be a pleasant, if unexpected surprise, to hear a word of thanks for all that you have received, but, alas, your memories are short. Perhaps you would have preferred a Nazi victory?

I hope not all citizens of socialist countries are as misguided and have such a lack of understanding as do you. If you think Bill Clinton was our "greatest" president, that speaks volumes; thanks for providing my daily dose of amusement.

In closing, thank you to Great Britain, Australia, Lithuania, New Zealand, and several other friends of the US for having the sense to not view the world through rose colored glasses.
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