Originally Posted by Wolfgang
If you are trying to convince "Pablo" * that the USA is a good place to live you are wasting your time. He may be a former Mensa member but he is imune to logic. And he is still trying to learn how to use a spell checker...
The difficulty herein lies with the hypocrisy and impossibility of defending an indefensible philosophy. For someone who apparantly does not like the USA and/or everything we represent, he certainly spends a tremendous amount of time (see Norris Coopers thread of 4/25/08 in the Chit-Chat forum) expounding on his perceived deficiencies relating to the US's economy, politics, educational system, etc., and also said something to the effect of "maybe we Americans will someday, again, have something to be proud of" (paraphrased). I personally would have to have great interest and admiration for a subject to spend that much time discussing, analyzing, or studying that subject.
I think our little buddy has a bad case of envy and, despite his protestations, is just like everyone else in this world taking pot-shots at us. They want what we have and they want it given to them. We give generously, both governmental and private sector, to the world; no other country comes close to the help we provide developed and undeveloped countries. We protect our friends (and our enemies) when called upon to do so. We provide nearly all of the budget for NATO. We provide opportunity that exists nowhere else in the world. We welcome people from all over the world. We encourage and promote invention, innovation, and development. For all our generosity and attempts at policing unruly factions on this planet, we are criticized, ridiculed, and scorned by those who owe their very existence to the USA.
Do you not believe the USA is a great country? Perhaps you recall a statement Tony Blair, the British PM, made when asked why he was such a staunch supporter of US policies and why he so much liked the USA. To paraphrase his statement: "I gauge the greatness of a country by looking at the number of people either trying to enter, or leave, that country".
I see millions upon millions of people from around the world wanting to become US citizens because of what this country has to offer. As an American I have much of which to be proud.
The life you enjoy in your country (along with the rest of Scandanavia and Europe), is possible because the US is ready to intervene, just as we did in WWII, should the need arise. It would certainly be a pleasant, if unexpected surprise, to hear a word of thanks for all that you have received, but, alas, your memories are short. Perhaps you would have preferred a Nazi victory?
I hope not all citizens of socialist countries are as misguided and have such a lack of understanding as do you. If you think Bill Clinton was our "greatest" president, that speaks volumes; thanks for providing my daily dose of amusement.
In closing, thank you to Great Britain, Australia, Lithuania, New Zealand, and several other friends of the US for having the sense to not view the world through rose colored glasses.