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post #1 of 32 Old Apr 13th, 2008, 10:48 pm Thread Starter
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Who says they don't go together? I like my rig, specially right after I cleaned it...
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OK, I can go with that one. But if you need to tow a trailer with your LT then you should just take a car. Or like you, take a car/RV and tow your LT. That one I can understand.

But I just don't get the towing a trailer on a motorcycle thing. If my wife and I can't fit what we need on the LT, then we just will not take the LT.

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Only missing fun.

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I don't see any fun in dragging around soemthing behind my motorcycle that prevents me from having fun on it. Kinda like dragging a dead cow behind it.

I can see dragging a trailer behind a car so you can take the family or lots of stuff and still go riding when you get there. But if I ride a motorcycle to a destination, that's 80% of the fun. I like to enjoy my ride every step of the way. That would be dificult, if not impossible for me, towing a load. I know when I drive a car with a trailer it's significantly more stressful and not fun at all.

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Don't knock it till you've tried it .
It's nothing like pulling a trailer behind a car -- you don't feel the drag or any sway, in fact I find that it tends to stabilize the ride in bad wind gusts plus the fact that I get to keep all the weight of luggage off the bike. Besides, us "old" guys enjoy the luxuries especially on long trips.
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I guess it may depend on the trailer, but believe me, nothing like towing a dead cow, not that I've ever done that. Actually have a small sticker on the panel to remind me it's there. Trailering has enabled us to undertake the trip of a life time, and really enjoy ourselves. We remain very comfortable in most weather, and tend to set up for a few weeks at a time, minimum. Use our tent as a base, and ride out ( minus trailer ) to explore the country. That is the great part of using a trailer, haul your gear then, just ride as per normal. Best of both, for us anyway.

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With the right trailer (Bushtec) you never know it's behind you. Plus there's nothing like a "Picnic " at the gas pumps
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Don't know mine is on either..

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I love pulling our trailer. We can camp when we get there. You know you get to meet more people camping than you ever will in a hotel/motel. Just different strokes. I would rather never need to trailer my LT. I also understand all the reasons to put it on a trailer. Everybody has to do what works for them.

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Towing a trailer behind a car has a lot heavier gvm than a trailer designed to tow behind bikes to start with. Power to weight is substantially different.
if the trailer has been set up and loaded properly with a low cog (centre of gravity) you can virtually ride the bike as if it were not there but one does have to keep in mind the trailer wheel tracks are wider than the bike and the turn radius also has to be taken into consideration otherwise as Hilton said you get to meet so many more ppl camping than in motel rooms and still get the enjoyment of the journey on the bike in the first instance.
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Who says they don't go together? I like my rig, specially right after I cleaned it...
First, the LT's ON a trailer..#2. A Mercedes Benz is pulling said trailer! . I can't say much though. Last October my wife refused to ride the 500 miles to South Padre, TX for the rally. So with objection, I trailered mine.
I don't have any problem pulling my Bushtec.....I'm conscious it's back there, but it doesn't affect my riding.

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I don't see any fun in dragging around soemthing behind my motorcycle that prevents me from having fun on it. Kinda like dragging a dead cow behind it.
I pulled a Uni-go simply so my wife could bring more stuff. I hated backing it up, but it would rip twisties.



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Have uni-go so I can camp comfortably (big tent, sleeping bag, air mattress) Got to look back once in a while to be sure it's still there. Still handles good, you can see my photos on the Dragon (killboy 9-1-06). MG

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Well thanks for the heads up on the difference between trailering on a motorcycle vs. a car. I'm not sure I'll ever tow something behind my LT, but might consider it as I'm getting up there in the "old guy" stage.

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I USED to be in the NO WAY will I ever pull a trailer club! I'm getting older, but I ride more like a youngster, and I couldn't see a trailer that would stay back there. Griff says the uni-go rips, and I have heard plenty of other testimonials to the same.

I think I am going to have to look into one. I have plenty of trips that I would LIKE to take that would only be possible with camping gear. I'm still on the fence, but if I found a uni-go reasonable, I'd have to jump on it!

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Don't know mine is on either..

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I've never pulled a trailer behind a bike (well, OK my 10-speed when I was a kid) but I'm looking for one now.

I'm building a house 20 miles north of me, 35 mile trip when going to the lumber yard first. I hate taking the F-250 all the time (@12 MPG) but can't hold much on the bike as is, especially larger items.

My plan is to build a clamshell type trailer with a hard cartop carrier like the ones skiers use. I'd like to have the top removable & perhaps strap on larger (lightweight of course) items like a 10' section of PVC or conduit.

I see some of you guys refer to the LT as the Light Truck, I'm thinking it will work as long as I keep within the weight limitations. Of course the trick will be to make it look somewhat classy, not like a redneck special.

If people can pull an enclosed trailer with camping gear, etc. I don't see why I can't load mine with a few building supplies. Anyone have any advice on this?

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Did not mean to start a controversy. But here is my view on a few points that were raised:

1) A trailer behind a car makes driving unpleasant.

For the most part I agree. The issue in the US is that most trailers pulled behind cars are of the landscape trailer type. No brakes and a simple leaf spring suspension.

If you look at most european trailers like mine (BMW Multitrailer) they have independent suspension, coil springs, gas shocks, radial tires, mag wheels, and at least surge brakes. (hydraulically coupled brakes on the heavier trailers). It follows the car and you can not tell it is there. Braking, curves, crosswind, whatever, you truly forget about it. Until you back up...

2) Towing a BMW behind a Mercedes.

Guilty as charged! I started out with a BMW X5 tow vehicle but since I now work at a MB Dealer I got a better deal on an MB. We have been able to take trips towing the bike behind the car or our Motor Home that we could not have done otherwise. My preference is to ride. But parking the Motor Home at a nice place and taking day trips makes it much more attractive to the spouse. For CCR we will tow to Denver with the Mercedes and ride from there. That gives us more riding time on the good roads. West Texas and Oklahoma on the Interstate are not my idea of a riding adventure.

4) Trailer behind a bike?

If set up correctly I believe that it is a lot safer than a bike that is totally overloaded. I have seen a few trailer rigs that scared me, but the folks that show up at CCR's with trailers all appear to have it well thought out and I have not heard of any trailer caused accidents among our members. Once I retire and have more time to travel I plan on getting a well engineered trailer.

5) There were some references to age

They must be aimed at me...Thank you guys! I am catching up to some of you

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When I grow up, I wanna be just like you!!!!! Toy wise, at least!!

I saw that trailer set up that you have when we were in ?Breckenridge? - you had it behind the motorhome (that year, your motorhome wuz chock full of BMW apparel for sale). It's definitely a quality trailer. Don't see many, if any like that one, around the states. I kept waiting for you to put it up for sale while you guyz were in Puerto Rico, butt you came home too soon!!!

BTW - isn't the loading ramp slid into a compartment near the license area?
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Yes, the ramp is a 3 piece affair stowed in a compartment concealed by a flap that holds the licence plate too.

Dick, how about you get to use my toys and I get to use your money?

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Towing with a Mercedes is a joy. At least with my trailer, the bike is protected from the elements and the luggage can be stowed along with it, thereby leaving more room in the truck for people. Even though mine is not as sophisticated as Wolfgang's trailer, my truck knows when there's a trailer attached and should there be any sway (which hasn't ever happened) the ABS and traction control will engage and stop the sway. As far as mileage, I see about 17-19 mpg on the highway with the trailer in tow. Aerodynamics plays a huge role in these numbers.


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My (actually my wifes) MB has the same feature: An optional additional computer for Stability control, ABS, and traction control that knows when you are towing and adjusts the electronics accordingly. Even so I am in the business, I don't know exactly how it works, but believe me it does!

I love to have your trailer body on my trailer chassis, that would be the ultimate. But it would sure be expensive...

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Wolfgang, where is that fancy Diesel-Pusher of yours?

I remember me and Don passing you on the way to the Grand Tetons!

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Towing with a Mercedes is a joy. At least with my trailer, the bike is protected from the elements and the luggage can be stowed along with it, thereby leaving more room in the truck for people. Even though mine is not as sophisticated as Wolfgang's trailer, my truck knows when there's a trailer attached and should there be any sway (which hasn't ever happened) the ABS and traction control will engage and stop the sway. As far as mileage, I see about 17-19 mpg on the highway with the trailer in tow. Aerodynamics plays a huge role in these numbers.


NEODOC, what kind of trailer is that? Name Brand?
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Who says they don't go together? I like my rig, specially right after I cleaned it...
I liked that to

The perfect trailer would be one that you can have behind the LT and then use it to houl the LT on if you have problems.
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Well thanks for the heads up on the difference between trailering on a motorcycle vs. a car. I'm not sure I'll ever tow something behind my LT, but might consider it as I'm getting up there in the "old guy" stage.
Well now......
Considering that I rode for 15 years before I would even "try" a windshield,
now I wouldn't even consider riding without one.

I'll have to admit I never thought I'd be towing a trailer (or riding behind a windshield)
Butt..........with time your tastes change
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Wolfgang, where is that fancy Diesel-Pusher of yours?

I remember me and Don passing you on the way to the Grand Tetons!
Still have it... It's in a rental fleet right now. www.questrvrental.com It's the 36 foot Journey. That was a great trip!

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Glenn, it's a Phoenix Trailer made by Toy Carrier. Here's the website where I found mine. http://www.customcyclecarrier.com/

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It seems to me that pulling a trailer with a motorcycle is much more natural than pulling a motorcycle on a trailer. Mine is my primary transportation year round and is the only way I like to travel. So if I need to take more I will definately be getting a pull behind.
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As my business, I sell I market, promote and resell handmade custom knives ( http://customknifegallery.com) . I attend several shows a year to display and sell as well. Used my bushtec trailer to bring display cases, merchandise and also personal items. Alot more fun to ride a bike and better gas mileage too.

Now I don't go to many shows anymore. So the trailer is up for sale.
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