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Misc. shift lever pics

In the FWIW category, attached is a Word doc with a few comments on/pics of the shift linkage which I snapped while doing a bit of work on the lever. I believe you'll have to do "print preview" or print out the doc. to see the pics.
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Excellent photos Mark. Thanks for posting them.

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Thumbs up Excellent description

Well Mark, you have done it again! Excellent description and photo's of the shifter linkage. Even though I don't have "da Couch" any longer, I find your examinations of the K1200LT most fascinating.


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In the FWIW category, attached is a Word doc with a few comments on/pics of the shift linkage which I snapped while doing a bit of work on the lever. I believe you'll have to do "print preview" or print out the doc. to see the pics.
What's more fun? The pins or the 10mm nut to the tranny linkage? Though I've got that pin thang down now, I've not been able to make a living at it



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Thanks Mark, excellent, I saved that on my HD for future reference1

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Mark: A little off the subject, but what kind of camera do you use to get those closeups?

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What's more fun? The pins or the 10mm nut to the tranny linkage? Though I've got that pin thang down now, I've not been able to make a living at it
Oh, no question -- with my fat fingers, its the pins My problem really isn't removing them, it's keeping them -- as soon as they're out *poof!* they're gone to some deep, dark corner of the garage.

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Mark: A little off the subject, but what kind of camera do you use to get those closeups?
I have a now-several-years-old Casio 3.3 megapixel Casio QV-3000EX. One of the reasons I bought it was that unlike most digital cameras at the time, it had a much better lens, with macro capability.

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In the FWIW category, attached is a Word doc with a few comments on/pics of the shift linkage which I snapped while doing a bit of work on the lever. I believe you'll have to do "print preview" or print out the doc. to see the pics.
Nice writeup Mark. But, you mentioned you "snapped" the linkage.

Which piece, where and how? Did you replace it with OEM bits or David's super threaded rod?

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Great job Mark!

I bought a replacement 'arm' (#9 in the diagram) last January, but I haven't installed it yet because I can't get #3 out!

At least now I have a better idea of what things look like without laying on a cold garage floor!

Reminds me, I need to order a couple spare clips next time I call Chicago BMW...
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Nice writeup Mark. But, you mentioned you "snapped" the linkage.

Which piece, where and how? Did you replace it with OEM bits or David's super threaded rod?
Actooly, I "snapped" some pics The linkage is still intact. I went in there because it seemed to have an unusual amount of slack, and I wanted to see if there had been any hidden damage from the tourist taking me out last May (I fell over on the left side after the hit that snapped the forks). No detectable damage, so no replacements.

FWIW, I've carried a spare ball stud and threaded rod in my tool kit for years, just in case. Why? Because I'm not convinced that strengthening the shift linkage is the way to go.

While the BMW engineers have made some famous mistakes, usually there's a reason for their design choices. In this case, I wonder if the shift linkage isn't designed to give way before internal tranny damage is done to, for example, the relatively soft shift drum. With this in mind, I've decided I'd rather have the shift linkage break and have the likely-to-break pieces with me for roadside replacement, than to take a chance on being immobilized by tranny damage. Probably not very likely that I wouldn't have at least one usable gear, but why take a chance on even an unlikely scenario if I can avoid it altogether?

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Actooly, I "snapped" some pics The linkage is still intact.
Thanks for the clarification.

I also carry a complete set of replacement parts... including a SS link from D.S. (as yet uninstalled) for the reasons you mention.

However, I do believe I have become oblivious to the sloppy shifter... Hmmm. Have to check that out.

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Oh, no question -- with my fat fingers, its the pins My problem really isn't removing them, it's keeping them -- as soon as they're out *poof!* they're gone to some deep, dark corner of the garage.
Twixt having a finger sewn back on and the damage the nun's did, I fully comprehend. Also, keeping extra stock grocks, though the poof thang doesn't exactly equivocate with the accidental drop kick of the leetle bucket I throw parts in.



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Twixt having a finger sewn back on and the damage the nun's did, I fully comprehend. Also, keeping extra stock grocks, though the poof thang doesn't exactly equivocate with the accidental drop kick of the leetle bucket I throw parts in.
Off-topic -- I hadn't noticed the finger thang -- must been a good seamstress

That compares to my step-father's finger, which he came within the proverbial hair of taking off with a circular saw. They sewed it back on after a helo flight up to Johns Hopkins, but he could never bend it again. It really didn't bother him much, though, as it was his middle finger -- a real conversation-starter, that was

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Re: Misc. shift lever pics

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In the FWIW category, attached is a Word doc with a few comments on/pics of the shift linkage which I snapped while doing a bit of work on the lever. I believe you'll have to do "print preview" or print out the doc. to see the pics.
I know that I'm resurrecting this post from the great beyond, but I just had to comment that the write up and the Word doc with pictures was outstanding.

I really appreciate you folks that are willing to take your time to share your expertise with the rest of us.

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I know that I'm resurrecting this post from the great beyond, but I just had to comment that the write up and the Word doc with pictures was outstanding.

I really appreciate you folks that are willing to take your time to share your expertise with the rest of us.
+1 Matt. Just used this printout this morning in a leetle mini-tech session with a coupla good friends. I remarked that I've had it printed for a long time, and didn't know who the author wuz. Your current post to this thread gave me the answer.

Other than fat fingers and restricted room to operate, the process went pretty smooth. Gotta tell ya tho - if removing one of the bent keeper pins for retaining a ball in a socket, and it appears nowhere to be found after you just know it went 'sproiiiiing', take a look at the sidestand's spring windings!! Can't believe that's where one of ole Toad's keeper pins found a landing place after escaping the ball. Thanks to 1jusbill1 for finding it. I doubt I'da ever looked there!!
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Re: Misc. shift lever pics

FWIW it has been in the "Files" "Technical" area for some time now. Lots of other good stuff there as well.

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I know that I'm resurrecting this post from the great beyond, but I just had to comment that the write up and the Word doc with pictures was outstanding.

I really appreciate you folks that are willing to take your time to share your expertise with the rest of us.
I have to agree with Matt on the excellent information on this foam;I probaly would of never greased all four of my ball joints on my shifter if wasn;t for this forum;;but I just did a few days ago and goes in gear so smooth;take tupperware;put new radio in;service and more because of forum
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FWIW it has been in the "Files" "Technical" area for some time now. Lots of other good stuff there as well.

Mark's Article
True that! There's also great stuff in users posts as well. For example, cfell (Channing?) mentioned magnets. So when I was ready to pull the clips out, I got a big speaker magnet and kept it right below where I was working. When I inevitably dropped a clip, it went right on to the magnet. That probably saved me an hour of hunting for it on my garage floor!

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