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Trailer Tie-Down Process -- 2008 LT

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I am a recovering HD Ultra Electric Glide receiving his new 2008 LT tomorrow. I could not deal with the seat discomfort any longer.


Question: I am use to a tie down procedure with HD's and there we always went for the highest tie down in front (handlebars) and then secure the back wheels. We would bring the front shocks down with some bottom play.

Somewhere in this site there is a tie down description that grabs the front forks low down on the fork and then a rear secure.

Has anyone tried a front higher tie down with handle bars --- I am concerned with clearance of the fairing. I guess I am use to the rule of tie down high and forward/side.
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Seat Discomfort

If you thought the Harley seat was uncomfortable...

Start looking at various aftermarket makers of seats for the LT. I've ridden them for 7 years now and the stock seats are extremely uncomfortable after 200 miles. Similarly, you might be thinking about J-Pegs to alleviate knee pain as the "locked-in" riding posture of the K1200LT doesn't permit moving at all for hours. Great bike, but these two issues are real for long distance riding.

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The big point of the tie down procedure is the handlebars are NOT a good tie point, as they can swing down if the clamps do not hold them. The covers over them also prevent getting a strap around them lower than the grips without breaking them. Do not be afraid to carefully run a soft strap around the fork leg near the fender brace (watch for hydraulic lines and wires) and snug the tie to your trailer. You do not need to get crazy with tension as you are not working against suspension. Also make sure you keep the tire from shifting. Follow the rear strap procedure as well and you will have no issues, but dont short the process!! This is a heavy machine that does not want to stand still :<)

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David David David......LT's are designed to be ridden, not put on trailers! This is one of many things you will learn in your transition into the light from the dark side.

Just kidding of course....welcome and congrats on your new ride.

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If you thought the Harley seat was uncomfortable...

Start looking at various aftermarket makers of seats for the LT. I've ridden them for 7 years now and the stock seats are extremely uncomfortable after 200 miles. Similarly, you might be thinking about J-Pegs to alleviate knee pain as the "locked-in" riding posture of the K1200LT doesn't permit moving at all for hours. Great bike, but these two issues are real for long distance riding.

Good luck
I would respectfully disagree. I have had five different motorcycles and the seat on the LT is very comfortable. Comfort is also personal preference.

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Yes I had seen the posted tie down pics and wondered about the real low position in the front. The back is no issue for me. That said there really is no alternative than to grab the front forks. I am using a lock chock so there is "some" stability there. My HD was about 830 lbs so heavy bikes I am familiar with and that is why I was partial to the high point of tie-down. I will try it on the "occasion" I actual tow rather than ride.

On the seat comment --- it begs the question. So what after market did you finally land on? Did you do both the captain and pass?
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I suggest trying the stock seats for awhile before plunging into the aftermarket arena. For me, the stock seat with beads gets the job done on those occasional 1000 mile days.

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Don't be afraid to use the forks to secure the front wheel. A couple of soft ties just above the brace attached to rachet straps do just fine. Also, I discovered beneath the side cases (saddle bags in HD speak) are frame bars that you can slip a strap around to secure the rear end. Just to be safe I attach a couple of straps to the rear foot pegs pulling the bike forward to keep it tight into the wheel chock.
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On the seat comment --- it begs the question. So what after market did you finally land on? Did you do both the captain and pass?[/QUOTE]


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I suggest trying the stock seats for awhile before plunging into the aftermarket arena. For me, the stock seat with beads gets the job done on those occasional 1000 mile days.
Welcome to the site I have an 07 LT and the sit on the 07 is softer than the older bikes. That was one of the changes for the 07 model. I agree with my friend here. I went to Texas on April and by closing my legs over the sit I was able to ride 850+ miles per day with no problem and in comfort. But this is different to every one cuss of body types. You can read on this site plenty about sits and Corvin, Rick Myers etc are excellent but pricy. Try yours first and if the soft sit is not for you then make the change that has helped plenty of folks here. Congratulations on your new bike


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David, welcome to the world of "LT" ownership from across the river in Glastonbury. The spring warmup this weekend will be timed just right to get your first 600 miles on the bike. Enjoy your new ride. Barnett (P.S. I also own tie down straps for some of my west of the Mississippi trips)

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The first time I trailered my Lt I was apprehensive about the tie down on the fork. But I followed the procedure, which I received form the local BMW dealer, and it was easy to do and worked great.

I decided to go with a Corbin seat after a few rides on the stock seat. I have had my '99 LT a couple of years now.
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Thank you everyone for the valuable information. All of them spot on. And hello Glastonbury!!

Oh, I did learn late yesterday that there are three screws that hold down the front side bumper/crash guards (I don't know the official name) and when they are removed it provides another strong metal bar to grab onto. Again, a very low point of contact. Time will tell.

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DO NOT!! use the tipover wings or as you said crash bars these are meant to fold up in the event of a drop or crash. If you use them to tie down the bike you will damage them and possibly break the frame tabs.

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Oh, I did learn late yesterday that there are three screws that hold down the front side bumper/crash guards (I don't know the official name) and when they are removed it provides another strong metal bar to grab onto. Again, a very low point of contact. Time will tell.
Hi David, DON'T use these bars as an attachment point - if the tabs on the frame where these are attached break, they cannot be repaired, and you'll need a new frame from Tony (Deputy5211)

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DO NOT!! use the tipover wings or as you said crash bars these are meant to fold up in the event of a drop or crash. If you use them to tie down the bike you will damage them and possibly break the frame tabs.
Great minds !!!!

I never trailer my bike, but often use ferries. I use the methods suggested Here, keep the bike n the sidestand, and additionally use a strap from the side stand to the front wheel, to stop the sidestand folding up in rough seas.

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Since I attend rallies as a vendor I trailer my 05 all over the place and use it for my transportation once I get to a site. At least 40K so far and not one problem . As mentioned earlier I use the soft ties on the fork and soft ties on the rear bars below saddle bags. I pull the fronts (un-sprung weight) very tight with a fairly large ratchet tie down. The rears since its part of the sprung weight I just get very snug......not really tight.
I would highly discourage using the side stand. Your bike needs to move a little using the suspension when trailering. That's what will keep it tight against the wheel chock.
The best way to tie down any motorcycle or car is to tie it down using the unsprung part of the suspension so the body can still move when hitting bumps but the wheels remain locked in.
I can't figure how to do that to the rear of the Lt, that's why I don't pull the rear straps real tight.
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I would highly discourage using the side stand.
Side stand usage advocated for ferries, not whilst trailering

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Continuing the aftermarket seat discussion, if after you ride the stock seat for a while and are still not comfortable there are several options that you can do a search on custom seats here and most likely get more information than you ever wished for! Bill or Ron Mayer, Corbin, Russell and More.. That said. If you are a bigger guy it seems the best solution may be the Russell Day-Long with the "spring wings", and the others offer different solutions to comfort that you may find right for you. You can also consider a bead rider, jel cover, or air cover as an upgrade to the stock seat that may give you just the right fit, or a change now and again for that longer ride. In any case have fun, get comfortable and you will love the ride!!

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