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My LT battery quest - current pricing and sources

MODS - Please leave this here for a while so that everyone will see it, a lot of time when into compiling this info and it will get lost in the "battery" section!

Well, since my 2nd Odyssey PC680 left me rideless on a fine Christmas Day I decided to do some shopping for a new battery - and thought I would share some current pricing and resources. I did this based soley on price and specifications called for in the repair manual. Discussions of which battery is "best" has been covered many times before in many threads, and like oil, everyone has their favorite.

BMW Brand

It's a battery, not a chunk of gold. About $120.00, or more.

Odyssey PC680

I've given up on this battery and have tried hard to like them for the past several years - but it just did not work well for me. Sure, they have a flashy red case and marketing hype to go with it, but at only 16ah instead of the specified 19ah for our LT's it ain't gonna happen again. The prices seem to be hovering around $100.00 or more currently.

Panasonic LCX1220P*

This one is 20ah so it fits the bill and a solid brand. The least expensive price I found was at "U batteries" for $53.19 - BUT - it appears their web site is not working properly - even on Christmas you would think it would be functional....
http://ubatteries.com/cart/LCX1220P.html

* This is the same battery as the WestCo 12V 20P, (WestCo slaps their sticker on it) but it appears that since the WestCo is "specifically" for motorcycles they feel compelled to charge a MUCH higher price for it. More marketing hype.

Werker WKA 12-18NB

At 18ah it should werk, and it is made by Exide in the USA. This is carried by Batteries Plus but I've found their prices are ALWAYS high, either at the store or on the web. A big plus is that it comes with a 2 year warranty. Best price I found was $42.95 at www.replacementupsbattery.com/Product_pages/wka12-18NB.html

Universal Battery UB 12180

18ah, but right on the cover it says made in China, and at only $33.92 a smoking bargain, but I figure it probably WOULD be smoking in short time... You pays your money and you takes your chances. Not for me.
http://www.batteriesasap.com/46.html...FSD7iAodo1q2Og

Yuasa/Enersys NP18-12BFR

18ah, a respected brand that I've had good luck with over the years. It's probably made in China instead of Japan these days, hopefully in an ISO Certified facility. I found it for $24.99 on Flea bay, item no. 220166181378 from a 99.7% supplier. Ding, Ding, a winner! Add $9.50 Priority Mail shipping and it has a new home for the grand total of $34.49. Maybe in time for a New Years Day ride!

Almost all of the batteries had a shipping charge of $10.00, but I didn't spend much time looking at that. Freshness is an important consideration when buying batteries - and you are probably more likely to get a newer one from the big suppliers, but unfortunately there is no way to tell in advance. I sure do wish they were required to put a date on them that was not buried in some arcane manufacturer's "code."

I did find several other brands that I had never heard of before - and they were dirt cheap - they were probably just rebranded Chinese stuff like the UB mentioned above - they looked the same.

My take on batteries is that proper care and charging routines are critically important in gettting max life from them, once again fodder for another thread.

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Bend the tabs at the bottom and sides of the battery box out of the way. Install a 20 Ah Goldwing battery from the GL1100-1200 series bikes. More amperage, less price ($40-50 locally), easily removed. My LT never started this well before. I personally like batteries I can add water too. In our desert heat batteries never last over 3 years, so why would I spend more for an expensive battery?
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Bend the tabs at the bottom and sides of the battery box out of the way. Install a 20 Ah Goldwing battery from the GL1100-1200 series bikes. More amperage, less price ($40-50 locally), easily removed. My LT never started this well before. I personally like batteries I can add water too. In our desert heat batteries never last over 3 years, so why would I spend more for an expensive battery?
Very clever - what brand battery is it?

My wife's OEM Panasonic sealed battery lasted 6 years in her 2001 Honda CRV cage in Tucson. I was impressed enough to buy another one but when the dealer quoted me $140.00 (and not available anywhere else that I could find) I passed and got her the Everstart at Wally World - a Consumer Reports best buy - for $45.00.


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I had a Westco 3 going on 4 years and was thinking @ replacing it before I sold the LT just because I had gone through 2 BMW batteries prior.

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The Odyssey in my LT went in at around 9-11K miles. Hard to remember that long ago, but it replaced the factory unit, when it died.

Same battery is still cranking hard at 37.6K miles, about 6 years later !

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Looks like the one I bought...and at 22AH and 420CCA it fires the LT up right NOW.
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I bought the United Power Group AGM battery from www.ebatteriestogo.com last year and love it. My 99 starts after sitting for weeks even this time of year. Here are the three batteries that they carry for the LTs:

The following battery options have been identified for your application:

WestCo 12V20P Sealed AGM - 12 Volt - 275 CCA - 20 AH - $106.95.

United Power Group - Adventure Power UB22-12N Sealed AGM - 12 Volt - 420 CCA - 22 AH - $74.95.

Power Source WP20-12I Sealed AGM - 12 Volt - 325 CCA - 20 AH
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The Odyssey in my LT went in at around 9-11K miles. Hard to remember that long ago, but it replaced the factory unit, when it died.

Same battery is still cranking hard at 37.6K miles, about 6 years later !
I'm with you, only I have about five years and 80K miles on mine.

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It may well be worth while to explore what these batteries are designed and manufactured for. I'm no electrical storage guru but I do know a 'start' battery sees quite a different life than a battery designed for standby lighting or UPS use.

The spec sheet for the NP18-12BFR shows:
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LIFE EXPECTANCY:
STANDBY USE 3 to 5 years
CYCLE USE (approx.):
100% depth of discharge 250 cycles
50% depth of discharge 550 cycles
30% depth of discharge 1200 cycles
http://www.batterystore.com/Yuasa/YuasaPDF/NP18-12.pdf

No idea what starting an LT does as far as discharge depth - but something to consider. For all I know those may well be really good numbers for LT duty!

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Boy Ron, battery probs must be a Tucson thing. Went out today and the LT wouldn't do the Vroom Vroom thing. Worked fine yesterday. A short charge/jump start got it running and a trip across town charged it up.

Interesting though, I have recently been dealing with a lot of engine type static noise in the stereo/helmet headset speakers that has been inconsistent. Seemed to be louder today when I would slow or stop and the RPM's lowered.

Wondering if the battery is going out and the charging system is working harder and making engine static noises?

Anybody know if this is possibly connected?

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Sounds more like a loose|corroded connection in the charging system to me.

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Excellent info on the batteries, but one must remember that Ron K Miller is frugal at best.

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Sounds more like a loose|corroded connection in the charging system to me.
Thanks for the positive lead (pun intended). OK.. So it's 42 degrees in the garage, 28 degrees outside and I am up at 4am because of an irritating little cough. So what else is there to do but go check out the leads on the LT's battery. Tried to put the charger on it but it kept turning off due to full charge.

The negative bolt did require several partial turns with the wrench to snug. The positive lead has an "L" bracket on it and the top nut was tight. But.... when I put the box end on the positive bolt down below, it also required tightening.

Almost excited enough to go ride it to check it out. But if I were to wake the sleeping beauty to get the warm clothes...well that's another story for another time.

I'll try out come daylight. Good tip Zotter. Thanks.

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I'm glad I did a search and found this thread. I'm going to have to replace my battery and was going to the BMW dealer in the morning, but I believe it will be worth a couple, three four days wait to order one.

Not riding since August (Well, a couple of times) has killed it. Oh well. It was four years old or so, probably time to replace it anyway.
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Ok I order one for 2004 K1200LiteTruck , radio on fm has a buss am ok . I have a BMW battery less then year old . Thanks Dan

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Well, batteriesasap was where I was going (for the universal) but my impatient nature got the best of my wallet. The HD AGM 65989-97B fits with a little shaving of the hold down clamp grommets. Vroom!

To my relief the relay didn't weld but the alarm armed itself and I had several unending sequences of flashing emergency lights with no indicator. Ahh, low battery wierdness...

What's the probability of someone else arming my alarm?

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Re: My LT battery quest - current pricing and sources

Good morning everyone,
I wanted to bring this thread to the front for me and others who might be battery shopping. Plus, I wanted to let you know that my BMW dealer quoted me $179 for a new battery. AYFKM? (Are you #$%^-in kidding me?) They must have gone to the Harley school of parts quoting. BTW, my closest dealer is Pikes Peak HD/BMW. Anyway, some of the links in this thread are broken, but the many are not. For me, I'm leaning toward the larger GW batt.
Thanks for the info guys!!
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I am amazed that you can still get one from BMW dealer for $179. That is about what they were going for in 2005. At that same time the LT cup holder was somewhere near $100 and if the battery had gone up as much as the cup holder, it would be about $250 now. Your comparison to HD pricing is spot on - no conscience in either genre.

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Maybe switch to a Shorai lithium iron battery (the high amp unit)? The cost isn't that much more, and they are supposed to last longer and require less maintenance. I haven't done this yet, so I can't recommend it, but maybe others here can provide some insight. I'd be interested in hearing some feedback. (Hope this isn't considered a post hi-jack.)

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I buy mine at Advance Auto Parts for about $70. They are not the best battery but it is a national chain store that is open seven days a week including most holidays. That way if I have a warranty problem or just need to replace it no mater what day it is or where I happen to be it is easy.

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Maybe switch to a Shorai lithium iron battery (the high amp unit)? The cost isn't that much more, and they are supposed to last longer and require less maintenance. I haven't done this yet, so I can't recommend it, but maybe others here can provide some insight. I'd be interested in hearing some feedback. (Hope this isn't considered a post hi-jack.)

I just bought a Shorai for my wife's G650GS.

I figure that nearly 10 pounds less weight up high would make it that much easier to handle for her.

I have not installed it yet. I am waiting for her Eastern Beaver PC8 fuse block. I think first weekend in April will be her wrenching weekend.

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Good morning everyone,
I wanted to bring this thread to the front for me and others who might be battery shopping. Plus, I wanted to let you know that my BMW dealer quoted me $179 for a new battery. AYFKM? (Are you #$%^-in kidding me?) They must have gone to the Harley school of parts quoting. BTW, my closest dealer is Pikes Peak HD/BMW. Anyway, some of the links in this thread are broken, but the many are not. For me, I'm leaning toward the larger GW batt.
Thanks for the info guys!!
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Do you realize this post was started by me on Christmas Day, 2007

...and the last post prior to yours was in 2008?

Things have probably changed just a wee bit in
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Yea Odyssey PC680 has turned into a very reliable battery Ron.

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Ummmmm.....

Do you realize this post was started by me on Christmas Day, 2007

...and the last post prior to yours was in 2008?

Things have probably changed just a wee bit in
FOUR YEARS!

There is a lot of that going on these days, Ron... A sure sign of spring-like WX and new LT owners finding us. Not a bad thing. I have to admit to reviving an old thread now and then... ;-))

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Never had problem one with an Odyssey in either RT or current LT. Using Battery Tender only during winter months.
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There is a lot of that going on these days, Ron... A sure sign of spring-like WX and new LT owners finding us. Not a bad thing. I have to admit to reviving an old thread now and then... ;-))
LOL Tony - Oh well, if ya' can't beat em' - join 'em!

Here's a post from June of 2002 - when the Odyssey was only $88.00!

Odyessy battery

(The next post - of course - will be someone wanting to know where to get one for that price today...)


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Yea Odyssey PC680 has turned into a very reliable battery Ron.
I would agree since I've come full circle and now running another - you guessed it - Odyssey!


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Ummmmm.....

Do you realize this post was started by me on Christmas Day, 2007

...and the last post prior to yours was in 2008?

Things have probably changed just a wee bit in
FOUR YEARS!

Ron, I checked all the links before I posted. Much of the info and models are still the same. And yes, I did realize how old the thread was. Actually the thread survived longer than many of our batteries!

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Ron, I checked all the links before I posted. Much of the info and models are still the same. And yes, I did realize how old the thread was. Actually the thread survived longer than many of our batteries!
Well - in that case - I guess there is nothing new in ten years!


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Been running my LT on the cheap Universal for years with no problems. China makes a good battery.
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.... China makes a good battery.
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Where do you get an Odyssey for $88?

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Know this is an old thread but thank you for the info Ron.

Its about time to order a battery and the Panasonic LCX1220P* looks like the ticket 68 on amazon

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LOL Tony - Oh well, if ya' can't beat em' - join 'em!

Here's a post from June of 2002 - when the Odyssey was only $88.00!

Odyessy battery

(The next post - of course - will be someone wanting to know where to get one for that price today...)
Well, Ron, it was not the next post, but Pete wins the prize for asking (even if he no doubt did it on cue)!

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I have to recommend MagnaPower at Advanced Auto Parts. These AGM's have up to 400cca's and up to 26ah's and are easily exchanged should you need to do so.

I'm not sure of the exact one I have or it's spec's but I have to say that I have had a few of the others mentioned here be completely worthless after being drawn down once..... Not so with this brand and if I ever needed to replace it, I don't even need a receipt as it's stored in their computer system.

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