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post #1 of 15 Old Oct 30th, 2007, 11:46 am Thread Starter
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Farkle Wires

SO now that I've started thinking about adding things and re-wiring the things already there, I decided to pretty up the wiring. One thing I'd like to do is use cables (multiple individual wires in a single jacket) in some of the places that individual wires are run.

Problem is: I can't find any!

Checking Radio Shack, Fry's Electronics, Home Depot/Lowes, etc. to try to find six-conductor, 20 AWG, stranded cables has not worked. I found some on line, but a 100-250 foot spool is really overkill.

Raffy suggested that I get a keyboard extension cable* from RS, but before I cannibalize one of those, I thought I'd ask the general membership if anyone has a source.

*= And a darn clever idea that is, too. It's my #1 plan at the moment unless something else comes up.

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Do you care what the color code is?
How much you looking for?

I do have a source and should be able to help you out.


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Do you care what the color code is?
How much you looking for?

I do have a source and should be able to help you out.


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So long as the wires in the cable are different colors, I can make do. (The nice thing about personal project--the color code is what _I_ say it is.)

I only need about 10-15 feet. That should be more than adequate and I would accept anything over 5!

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I used a 20 wire cable from old car phone installation. And I ran this cable under the gas tank from front to under the seat. This way I have ready wires from front to rear and I don't need to strip the bike that much for each farkle installation.

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I used a 20 wire cable from old car phone installation. And I ran this cable under the gas tank from front to under the seat. This way I have ready wires from front to rear and I don't need to strip the bike that much for each farkle installation.

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In theater sound and light systems they use a snake. A cable with a bunch of wires and as many different connectors as you can attach to run from the tech area to the stage. That way you can hook up any thing you need; a light, a phone, a mic, a speaker or anything else.

Never occurred to me to apply that to a bike.

What gauge of wire would you suggest?

BTW, you can buy that kind of cable from theatrical supply houses online in almost any length you need.

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In theater sound and light systems they use a snake. A cable with a bunch of wires and as many different connectors as you can attach to run from the tech area to the stage. That way you can hook up any thing you need; a light, a phone, a mic, a speaker or anything else.

Never occurred to me to apply that to a bike.

What gauge of wire would you suggest?

BTW, you can buy that kind of cable from theatrical supply houses online in almost any length you need.
The snakes I am familiar with (audio) tend to be a lot larger than I need for the project I currently plan. I might want some 18AWG if I'm going to run anything current hungry, but for most of what I expect to use, 20 AWG would be fine. My requirement is that it be stranded wire as that flexes better than solid wire does.

But I _will_ look into theatrical supply if things don't work out with TikTak's offer.

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I can get just about anything.
What is it you need to make the job perfect for you? I have too may types of cable in stock to list them all.

Also what overall diameter and color?


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Well my immediate need is for about 12 feet of 6 conductor, 20 AWG, stranded.

Overall diameter would be whatever that works out to.. With that gauge and number of conductors, I'm guessing it will be less than 1/2" and should be fine. A black outer jacket would blend in best.

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Well my immediate need is for about 12 feet of 6 conductor, 20 AWG, stranded.

Overall diameter would be whatever that works out to.. With that gauge and number of conductors, I'm guessing it will be less than 1/2" and should be fine. A black outer jacket would blend in best.

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Have you tried a local electrical supply company? Something like this one? You should easily find three or four places in town that stock 6 or 8 by 20AWG.

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Did you check Mouser or Allied on line?
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Have you tried a local electrical supply company? Something like this one? You should easily find three or four places in town that stock 6 or 8 by 20AWG.
Oh yes, definitely, before I tried posting here I was running around all over town. (at least I was doing it on the bike. What I found was that electrical supply, versus electronic supply tends to be higher power wire (too big) or data cable (solid instead of stranded). I can make do if I have to, but if I can have just what I need, I'll always go with that.

(It's like cake and ice cream. I prefer them together, but I can suffer along with just one.)

@Bob:
I hadn't. I searched on Google and found that Mouser has a great on-line catalog. I was able to do a search for cable/multi-conductor and then start filtering from there. Once I got some matches though (pretty broad: no spec for sheilding, colorjacket material, voltage, etc.), I was distressed to see that the cheapest I could get away with was 100 feet at $87.50 plus S&H/tax. Everything else was >$200!
But thanks, that's one I hadn't known about before.

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SO now that I've started thinking about adding things and re-wiring the things already there, I decided to pretty up the wiring. One thing I'd like to do is use cables (multiple individual wires in a single jacket) in some of the places that individual wires are run.

Problem is: I can't find any!

Checking Radio Shack, Fry's Electronics, Home Depot/Lowes, etc. to try to find six-conductor, 20 AWG, stranded cables has not worked. I found some on line, but a 100-250 foot spool is really overkill.

Raffy suggested that I get a keyboard extension cable* from RS, but before I cannibalize one of those, I thought I'd ask the general membership if anyone has a source.

*= And a darn clever idea that is, too. It's my #1 plan at the moment unless something else comes up.
If I were doing what you are planning I would go here - http://www.mcmaster.com/ - and go to page 765 of their catalog. This is where I buy all my cabling for our automation equipment repairs. We don't use a large volume so the cost is no problem and their delivery is quick.

Pick your wire gage, and largest outside diameter you can live with, then get the most conductors you can. Most of the conductors are black with numbers stamped every couple inches.

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If I were doing what you are planning I would go here - http://www.mcmaster.com/ - and go to page 765 of their catalog...
Bingo! Their on-line catalog actually let me navigate to the page you mentioned and they have just what I wanted! And it's only $1.32 a foot! Perfect and thanks.

(Man: I wasted so much time looking for this locally when all I had to do was post here!)

Thanks, also, TikTak, but I'm going to put together an order at McMaster just because there are some other things I need anyway.

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All i have in stock is DARK GREY 8 conductor spiral shielded.

Its about 3/8 in diameter.

Because its shielded it would be $ 1.50 per ft plus shipping.


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