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US K1200LT Vs European K1200LT

I will be ordering a 2008 K1200LT shortly. Can anyone tell me the differences between the US version and the European version?

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Headlight is different, lens and reflector have to meet different regulations. US ones have DOT (Department of Transportion) in the lens.

US versions have a charcoal vapor recovery cannistor in the fuel system, the European ones may not.

Not sure about the catalytic converter, but believe all LTs have that worldwide.

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I will be ordering a 2008 K1200LT shortly. Can anyone tell me the differences between the US version and the European version?

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Side reflectors(on side bags) are amber in Europe. In US they are red. And off course spedometer is in Km/hr in Europe and in US it is both miles/hr (bold and big) and km/hr (small font)

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Both bikes are made in Europe but they are lot cheaper in the U.S.
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Both bikes are made in Europe but they are lot cheaper in the U.S.
Yup, go figure...with overseas freight plus the Euro / USD exchange rate.

We have the friendly taxman here in Finland that wants his share. Retail price is about 30.000 Euros (over 42.000 USD)

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I will be ordering a 2008 K1200LT shortly. Can anyone tell me the differences between the US version and the European version?

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You're profile says you live in Chicago. Are you trying to buy one in Europe?

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And off course spedometer is in Km/hr in Europe and in US it is both miles/hr (bold and big) and km/hr (small font)
In England which, (alledgedly) is now part of Europe, we have miles/hr (bold and big) and km/hr (small font), but temps in degC

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Interesting...my 2007 only has MPH...no KPH as even an option. . . I guess you guys are talking about the older analogue gauges?

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In England which, (alledgedly) is now part of Europe, we have miles/hr (bold and big) and km/hr (small font), but temps in degC
But you ride on the wrong side of the road so your headlights are pointed in the wrong direction.


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In the UK the catalytic converter is not under the seat - found this out after getting all the tools ready to remove it.
Local dealership says it is inside the exhaust system

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But you ride on the wrong side of the road so your headlights are pointed in the wrong direction.
Most bikes have 'un-asymetric dip' i.e the beam just goes straight up/down, not dip to the near-side like most cages.

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In the UK the catalytic converter is not under the seat - found this out after getting all the tools ready to remove it.
Local dealership says it is inside the exhaust system
The catalytic converter is in the exhaust system in all of them. It has to be to work, as the hot exhaust goes through it before the muffler section.

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Thanks for the response

No, I am not trying to buy the bike in Europe. I was just curious as to what differences the US and Europe has. I was more interested in any differences in the engine due to US EPA regulations.
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In the UK the catalytic converter is not under the seat - found this out after getting all the tools ready to remove it.
Local dealership says it is inside the exhaust system
The charcoal canister is under the seat. Is that what you were looking for?

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No, I am not trying to buy the bike in Europe. I was just curious as to what differences the US and Europe has. I was more interested in any differences in the engine due to US EPA regulations.
My 07 US LT in Germany,so I soon will know all about the differences .
I'll let you know about this experience,hope it won't be too painful...

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The charcoal canister is under the seat. Is that what you were looking for?
The cannister is not under the seat Ted. It is under the top case.

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Headlight is different, lens and reflector have to meet different regulations. US ones have DOT (Department of Transportion) in the lens.
I'll take delivery of my '08 soon and am perplexed about the stated non-availablity of the Euro Switch headlamp control.

Does the '08 Euro bike have the "Euro switch" right handlebar headlamp control?

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I'll take delivery of my '08 soon and am perplexed about the stated non-availablity of the Euro Switch headlamp control.

Does the '08 Euro bike have the "Euro switch" right handlebar headlamp control?
No it has not. I think it disappeared sometime in the beginning of the decade about the same time as from the US bikes.

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No it has not. I think it disappeared sometime in the beginning of the decade about the same time as from the US bikes.

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Enlighten me? What is the "Euro switch" ?

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Enlighten me? What is the "Euro switch" ?
It is a switch module on the right handlebar that allows you to turn off the headlight. I think the US was the first country to require motorcycle headlights to be on all the time, so the switches for headlights were no longer available on US models, seems that other countries are following suit, or just being punished.

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It is a switch module on the right handlebar that allows you to turn off the headlight. I think the US was the first country to require motorcycle headlights to be on all the time, so the switches for headlights were no longer available on US models, seems that other countries are following suit, or just being punished.
Must be on the 2003 onwards then I assume. I can see the logic in dropping the switch, after all, there is not really any good reason to have it when headlights should be on at all times. Maybe trying to start with a low battery would be one exception.

France now requires headlights on all over 124cc motorcycles but the UK still has no legislation about the subject. Surprising really since this shower in power are writing new laws at a rate of around 3000 a year at the moment.

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I can see the logic in dropping the switch, after all, there is not really any good reason to have it when headlights should be on at all times. Maybe trying to start with a low battery would be one exception.
"...not really any good reason..." must be your personal thing. Having used the Euro switch for years on my bikes, I can say there are many times when operating the engine without headlights, or various levels of illumination, is very practical. The "low battery" condition you mention is covered by the load shed relay when starting.

For example, during shop work in the garage, making final departure checks (other than lighting) in the driveway, getting through and around crowded campsites, when minimal illumination is helpful for late arrival camp set-up, when slowly maneuvering through crowds of bikes and/or pedestrians where full illumination could be offensive. etc.,etc.

It is also my habit manage the use of multiple PIAA lamps thru the various level of light control permitted by the Euro switch.

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