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post #1 of 14 Old Oct 8th, 2007, 4:51 pm Thread Starter
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Today was my turn in the barrel

Today I was riding my '00 LT when shifting from 2 to 3 gear I heard a faint pop, accompanied by an enornmous amount of shift lever play. I knew immediately, from reading this forum, what had happened. Sure enough, I limped a couple of blocks into my riding buddy's garage and we took the left footpeg panel off to find one of the ball joints on the shift linkage broken. Not the end of the world, and at least I wasn't stranded beside the road.

To be forewarned is to be forearmed as the old saying goes. Unhappily though, I'm one of those that tends to stick his head in the sand until the crisis actually happens. So, that is to say, I didn't act preemptively and have the needed parts on hand. I now get to go to the dealer tomorrow and order them, and wait two or three weeks for the parts to come in. While I wait, I want to pick some of your brains out there on two issues.

First, with the ball joint broken, what parts would you replace. I'm thinking all ball joints and the rubber washers (although, they were all in much better shape than those on the 02 RT). Is the collective wisdom here to replace the entire linkage, or just the set of ball joints and perhaps keepers?

Second, and very disturbing to me, is the ball joint that broke is the one facing to the outside of the bike just above where the left footpeg cover is. It is the upper ball on the most outward linkage. The inner linkage is still intact. The ball's threaded shaft broke inside the hole it goes into. I can feel a nut behind the bellcrank, and I can get a 10mm wrench on it, but I can't get that dang nut to turn at all. I've put more than enough pressure and I'm afraid I'll round the shoulders off the nut. It looks to me like this nut and the rest of the threaded portion of the ball should simply fall out of the bellcrank; but it's lodged in there pretty tight. Is this nut made on to the bellcrank and do I need to drill the rest of the stud out of the nut? Any and all assistance is much appreciated.

I think the LT is just getting even with me for taking the RT last week on a 2400 mile trip up to Mount Washington and back. It was a very enjoyable trip, but on Saturday I rode 775 miles home on the slab and the LT was sorely missed that day.

Thanks in advance for your input. I'll be looking forward to getting Emil back on the road so the wife and I can do some fall riding.
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post #2 of 14 Old Oct 8th, 2007, 5:00 pm
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I replaced mine with a more heavy duty version I bought from someone on this site.......
Hopefully someone will chime in with the name.....but I'll keep looking.............

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I replaced mine with a more heavy duty version I bought from someone on this site.......
Hopefully someone will chime in with the name.....but I'll keep looking.............
Really interested in this replacement to have on hand. Former heavy footed HD rider and all...................

I have been very gentle but still would like this persons info if you can find it.

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astuber knows of some replacements.. he'll probably chime in here pretty soon..

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Got it !
Got mine from PhilJohn on this site..................

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PhilJohn makes a great product, but I have always said if you maintain the stock linkage you will never have a problem. I pull mine apart every 12K and I always find a least one loose ball stud (that is why they break).

I clean and inspect the whole shootin match and apply fresh lube. It just shifts so much better with fresh lube in each ball joint. I do carry spare ball studs for my friends that don't maintain thier linkage.

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Is this nut made on to the bellcrank and do I need to drill the rest of the stud out of the nut?
Yes, the nut is welded to the bellcrank.
If all else fails you can remove the bellcrank assembly and do the removal of the stud on the workbench. It's not too bad a job to remove the bellcrank. YMMV.

Then before you install the new ball stud, take a dremel grinder with a cut off wheel and grind a screwdriver slot in the stud to aid in the removal process if it should happen again. (See pic)

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name of co. that sells replacement linkage

The name of the co. is powergrid. They have a web site and also sells on e-bay . Michagan phone # 586-484-7185
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They get loose and then they break off.. You should be able to remove the remains of the old stud fairly easily. You might take the bellcrank off to make it a little easier..

Check, Tighten and lube the balljoints at every annual service.

If they're tight, they won't break off unless you shift like a gorilla.

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The recommendations of maintenance sound good. I'm about to get a 12k service done, I don't suppose this is part of that service at the dealer??? If not, I'll look into doing it myself. Thanks for the suggestions and tips on this one.

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I don't suppose this is part of that service at the dealer??? If not, I'll look into doing it myself. Thanks for the suggestions and tips on this one.
It is not called out in the service list other than " to check shift linkage for proper operation". You can always "ask" the dealer to do it, at an extra charge I'm sure.

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I have replaced the linkage on my 99 after it broke and I also pre-emptively replaced the one on my 03 with the kit from philjohn ([email protected]).
I bought a kit from my 05, shortly to be installed. To me this is peace of mind!

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Thanks to all. I ordered all new balls (please, no more jokes...my wife's had a heyday with this one ), new rubber washers, and new keepers. I installed them all after a thourough cleaning of the turnbuckles and bellcrank. Everything was lightly greased with white lithium grease and will be cleaned and regreased each winter during the annual service.

I did this same cleaning on the RT last year and was surprised at how much better it shifted. After doing the service on the LT, it didn't seem to change much. And, I'm pretty sure I don't shift like a gorilla because I'm VERY careful to keep my knuckles shaved daily. Although, I do get tired of my fingers dragging on the ground when I'm in traffic and don't have my hands on the bars.
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