BMW has not done squat yet, from the looks of it they never will, they (THeMOCO SUCKs)
NEXT, the placing of any particular brand in the Iron Butt Rally, means nothing!!, so BMW had failures, so BMW had a 1st place finish, a sportster comes in third this year, last IBR that same sportster blew a engine. Yes same bike, same owner.
This year Particularly was the hardest IBR to plan from what every one art the IBR dinner said, some of who I value thier opinion more so then any one single person on this list when it comes to the Iron Butt Rally.
Trust me, the rally finish is the last thing to consider when picking a bike to buy or not to buy! Remember nearly Half of the entries did not FINSH the rally. what something like ninety seven entered, forty something finished. PLUS there were over 40 BMW's entered in the rally so what 4 had final drive issues (<g>)
The dealer network is the big down point for BMW, not the bike.
Forget the bs about honda, I'm fast seeing it is the most dependable machine on the road between the ST1300 and Goldwing! and they do take care of thier problems.
Forget most of the bs about HD they are lasting longer MUCH longer, underpowered yes! (However they still are having a problem with the HS wobbles on the glides - If you buy a glide have a true track or ride straight installed)
Personally, I would think about Honda 1st! if all I have in mind is not being broke down in the middle of No WHERE looking for dealer support, or Harley Davidson 2nd.
BUT we still bought new bmw's again! and we travel quite a bit.
JUST my hundreds and hundreds of thousands of miles of personal riding experience and hearing what others have to say -
hell just since 08/02 we have over 270k miles on BMW alone.
ONE FINAL DRIVE FAILURE on the '02 K1200LT it now has 155k miles on it
heck we had TWO new trans put in the '02 RT by 56k miles, I'd say the final drives are far more dependable than thier transmissions used in the RT, at least from our experience
Originally Posted by Mike_H
I know that rear drive failure has become a tired, old topic. I am not tryng to beat this dead horse, but rather helping to make sure that we BMW owners continue to discuss this topic in hopes that BMW will (finally) react with changes to the design fo the rear drive that eliminate the failures.
Here is a paragraph taken from the 2007 Iron Butt Rally report:
"The Tarnished Blue and White Roundel
A disproportionate number of the DNFs fall on the shoulders of BMW. BMW failed several riders, demonstrating that they are no longer capable of building motorcycles that can run 11,000 miles in 11 days without a significant fraction experiencing a catastrophic drivetrain failure of some sort. BMW of North America has requested contact information for the riders who experienced failures. The riders BMW should be more concerned about are the thousands of unsuspecting souls who will breakdown in the future because the company has lost its previous ability to either design durable drivetrain components or (more likely) adequately monitor production and assembly quality. It's way, way past time for BMW to fix its drivetrain reliability problems. A good start might be to acknowledge that there is a problem. "
I used to own a Honda GL1800. Gold Wings were known for chronic overheating and cracked frame welds. Mother Honda was slow to implement any changes to cure these problems until a sufficient number of owners field complaints, and (importantly) continued to post about their problems on various web sites. The potential loss of new business was enough to force Honda to make changes that cured the problems.
I truely hope the same happens with BMW, as I, like many others, deeply like owning and riding BMWs. But my patience is limited.