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post #1 of 19 Old Nov 25th, 2005, 8:53 am Thread Starter
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now for something different: front fender failure

Put 550 miles on the LT on Wednesday (day before turkey day), drove to Philadelphia, BTW saw only 3 other bikers I guess 40 degrees was too cold for most. Anyway got off I95 and heard something strange from the front and saw shadows in the headlight beam. Turns out my front fender is hanging off to the side, three of four bolts are missing and the fourth is loose and about to fall out. I unscrewed the last bolt, put the fender on the back seat and continued on wondering how that could of happened. Never touched a bolt on the fender before. I guess I'm wondering if the dealer, when replacing my front tire removed the front fender and didn't tighten the screws. The fender is damaged and most likely will need replacing. Does anyone know if these can be bought prepainted or just in primer?

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post #2 of 19 Old Nov 25th, 2005, 10:01 am
 
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when i bought my bike the dealer told me to keep an eye on the fender bolts. so it's not an unknown issue.
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All painted parts are listed by part number according to color. Dealer has to order them pre-painted.

When my favorite dealer was also a BMW car dealer, they were going to re-paint one of my mirrors that was scratched at delivery, but said if I did not mind waiting a couple weeks for one from Germany they would rather replace it, because even though their paint shop was really good, they were afraid it may not be a perfect match. I waited.

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I had the dealer put on new tires and they did not even come close to tightening the front fender bolts. They were just started.

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Why would they remove the fender?
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That is the standard way of removing the front wheel. It is in the shop manual. Unless your front wheel is hanging high, that is the only way to get the wheel out.

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I think this is the part number for your Fender 46 63 7 657 663
Price is somewhere between $190-$200 painted
Check the part number just to be sure though

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Thanks guys, I'll add "check tightness of the front fender screws" to my pre-flight check list. One more expensive mistake.
I did look on the parts list from one of the dealers and found only primer gray listed. I will look again with this other part number.
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I removed my front wheel twice so far, on the centerstand without removing the fender, never saw a need to. Maybe I did it wrong?
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I had a 01 LT and had problem with the front fender, however only 2 bolts were loose so I was able to notice it before it came loose. I think something was done in later models to prevent this.
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Cool Why? . . . Why not?

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I removed my front wheel twice so far, on the centerstand without removing the fender, never saw a need to. Maybe I did it wrong?
With the front fender being held on by only 4 bolts . . . I think it's a no-brainer to simply get the thing out of the way. Makes for a much easier job in the long run.
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Special fender bolts

Be sure you get the correct bolts for the front fender. The correct bolts have a nylon locking patch. They are only good for a few uses before they should be replaced. Most dealers will not replace them unless told to.

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Thanks for that heads up. I looked on the web, but didn't see any locking patches. I will call my dealer when I get homw. In the meantine I have gone to Home Depot and have some parts that hopefully will get me home.

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I must be missing something, it was never in the way.
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how badly damaged is the front fender?
it might be able to be repaired with some jb weld and fly gauze from underneath rather then where it is painted.
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This was a known problem on the RT, so now I have to watch for it on the LT as well. Guess I am going to have to make a pre-ride checklist. Thanks for the headsup.

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how badly damaged is the front fender?
it might be able to be repaired with some jb weld and fly gauze from underneath rather then where it is painted.
Wells, it looks like it had been laying down on the tire for awhile so it wore away alot of plastic, then when it finally let loose it got dented. For me the easy solution is to just replace it, but thanks for the idea.

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You can use Loctite #242 for the bolts and that should hold them good...

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