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post #1 of 19 Old Aug 7th, 2007, 11:52 am Thread Starter
 
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Seattle to Banff, Canada

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I just returned from a 9 day 2200 mile trip from Seattle to Banff, Lake Louise, Jasper, and Calgary (Alberta, Canada) and back.

This trip confirmed something I already knew: The stock seat on my 2005 K1200 LT is horribly uncomfortable. I had a Corbin seat on my 1997 Road King and loved it. I did a 550 mile day on the Harley and was ready to go the next day without any pain to speak of. 400 miles on this seat and I'm ready for nothing but a few days off of the bike.

I've read many of the posts on here regarding seats. It looks like the Corbin is liked by a few, but disliked by many. The Rick Mayer seats seem to be highly regarded, and are the most reasonably priced compared with Corbin, Russel, and others. I like the Mayer guarantee as well.

Does anyone have feedback on their Rick Mayer seat that they are willing to share? If so, I'd love to hear it!

Another problem that was magnified on this trip was the weak throttle response when starting out in first gear, or even when rolling at low RPM's. I've read about the "brown wire fix", but it seems the 2005 and later LT's don't have the brown wire.

Any suggestions on how I can improve the throttle response on my '05 LT?

Thanks in advance. I look forward to reading your replies.
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Get a 2000 with a Remus/Rhinewest setup and kick some butt !!!

There's an ass made for every seat, to bad the seat aint made for everbodies ass, I hope you find one more comfy. Maybe a backrest would help.

Awesome trip ( I grew up in that area and know it well), did you head up I-5 into the Vancouver area and take the Trans Canada across ? If so, I could, along with many others here, point you to better and less travelled routes.

I'm starting to miss the mountains, it's been too long.



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Route to Banff

On the way up, we rode east through Washington on I-90 through Coeur D'Alene, ID and then North on US-95. Then we took Provincial Route 93/95 to Banff.

On the way back, we took the Trans-Canada Hwy all the way from Calgary to the US border in Sumas, WA.

I'd love to see the alternate routes. We may do this trip again within the next couple of years. I will never tire of the beauty that Alberta, Canada has to offer.

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Get a 2000 with a Remus/Rhinewest setup and kick some butt !!!

There's an ass made for every seat, to bad the seat aint made for everbodies ass, I hope you find one more comfy. Maybe a backrest would help.

Awesome trip ( I grew up in that area and know it well), did you head up I-5 into the Vancouver area and take the Trans Canada across ? If so, I could, along with many others here, point you to better and less travelled routes.

I'm starting to miss the mountains, it's been too long.


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Chuck,
The SO and I just did that trip about 3 weeks ago. Took the North Cascade Highway through Winthrop, Hwy 97 to Osoyoos, then over the southern route in BC. Came back the northern route through Kelowna. It was 103 degrees in southern BC...like riding in a hair dryer.

Like you, I also found the seat on my '07 LT to be miserable (SO loves hers). I have an appointment this week at Rich's in Seattle. I figured with a highly recommended seat re-builder right in town, might as well go there so it can be adjusted if necessary. Just another thought.

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Almost everyone I know who has a 2005 complains about the lack of comfort in the OEM seat, so you're not alone there. I don't have an aftermarket seat, so I'm no help there, but for a cheaper alternative consider the pre-'05 seat, which many, including myself, consider to be quite comfortable. (Oops, I just remembered that I think I recall reading a post that said that the pre-'05 seats are not interchangeable with '05 and later mountings. Check compatibility first if you go this route.)

I also had a great time riding in Alberta and a bit of BC. Coming from the east, I ran the Yellowhead Hwy to Jasper and then 93/95 down. The road that I most wanted to run, but didn't, was the Crows Nest Hwy west of Medicine Hat, right along the border. Several people have raved about it. Maybe next time.

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I had a Beadrider on my '05 LT and it helped quite a bit, I did 4 1,000 mile days with just the beadrider on the stock seat. The right gear helps too, I wore "Under Armour" heat or cold depending in the temps underneath my Darian light pants.

The Beadriders are great when its hot it's like air conditioning and when its raining the water drains away.

I moved the beadrider to my '06 GS Adv. even after I bought a Sargent seat for it. - Best $35 farkle I ever bought.

http://www.beadrider.com/ - they picture an LT on their front page.

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You don't have to go to California to get a good quality custom saddle. Rich's Custom Leather is right here in Seattle. There are a lot of folks in the long distance riding community that think highly of them. The convenience of being able to ride in for a fitting or adjustments is also plus. He has reworked my K1200LT and R1200GS and I couldn't be happier.

Don't get me wrong Rick Mayer saddles are also top end saddles. If you are just looking for an excuse to ride to Northern California then go for it.


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BeadRider

I tried the BeadRider, but it didn't make a noticeable difference. I also tried a SoftBottom gel cushion. The SoftBottom helps, but not enough. Both will probably be for sale in the classifieds after I get a custom seat.

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I had a Beadrider on my '05 LT and it helped quite a bit, I did 4 1,000 mile days with just the beadrider on the stock seat. The right gear helps too, I wore "Under Armour" heat or cold depending in the temps underneath my Darian light pants.

The Beadriders are great when its hot it's like air conditioning and when its raining the water drains away.

I moved the beadrider to my '06 GS Adv. even after I bought a Sargent seat for it. - Best $35 farkle I ever bought.

http://www.beadrider.com/ - they picture an LT on their front page.

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Rich's Custom Seats

The thing that worries me about Rich's is their lack of a guarantee. Rick Mayer and Russell both guarantee customer satisfaction.

Rich's has the following statement on their website. This statement doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about their willingness to please their customers:
ALTERATIONS:
After the seat is fitted to your satisfaction and completed....... if you determine that modifications are necessary there will be an hour dismantling fee. All work and modifications beyond that will be on an hourly basis.

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You don't have to go to California to get a good quality custom saddle. Rich's Custom Leather is right here in Seattle. There are a lot of folks in the long distance riding community that think highly of them. The convenience of being able to ride in for a fitting or adjustments is also plus. He has reworked my K1200LT and R1200GS and I couldn't be happier.

Don't get me wrong Rick Mayer saddles are also top end saddles. If you are just looking for an excuse to ride to Northern California then go for it.
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Hi Chuck,

it is not often that I can comment on your ride tales "been there seen that" but me and my buddy rode down from Calgary via Banff to Glacier etc last August. Some magnificient scenery!

My enjoyment of 11.000 km was not disturbed by the seat. I sat on a Russell leather Day-Long seat (with BakUp backrest) and if at the end of each riding day some part of my body was sore it never was my behind.

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I just rode my VTX from Portland OR to lake Pend Oreille. (430 miles) I should have had the luxury of worrying about my behind. The fairing seems to go up to my chest. The 3/4 helmet makes sure the wind makes a rocket engine sound in my helmet. My ear phones kept falling out of my ears and I rarely missed a bug. Boy do I feel spoiler when i drive my LT now. I feel it has ruined me for all other long distance riding. The day I returned home from my Seattle to Jackson hole round trip of 2300 miles on my LT I had to take the wife out for a quick spin to stop myself going for withdrawls. The other riders were really beat up and I just didn't appreciate what they were going through till this recent trip. Needless to say the VTX hasn't got much time recently.

I don't even prefer the bike for short trips anymore the LT just flat out beats it in on most rides. Maybe the VTX wins when its parked and starting up ( Honda = no smoke). as soon as you reach a cruising speed of 30mph the LT wins hands down.

I am wondering if I should resort to such comfort at a young age surely I should pay a few more years of dues? Nah I think its time to give myself completely to the LT with the odd fling on the Aprilia.

PS did that ride last year crossing through Metaline falls to Banf and back through kelowna BC. Great town plenty of good food and right on a large lake.


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seat comfort

Isn't it amazing that a $20,000+ motorcycle comes with a crappy seat?

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Thumbs up Rich's in Seattle

I had Rich's work on my 2005 LT seat and HUGE improvement. I'm not familiar with the details of his satisfaction guarantee but I have had no need to go back and I think it was back last October that I had it done. Probably have about 11-12,000 miles on it. I think you will be very happy
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I use a sheepskin. May not be for everybody but it is easy to transfer from one bike to another. Both the wife and I tried with and without it. It is better with it on for the longer hauls.

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Rich built the first seat for me twelve years ago.
The second one for my RT seven years ago, on that seat
I just rode 754 miles in one day, two up.
Last April got new seats for my new LT, he
readjusted it three times, before the final leather cover.
He does an excellent work, that is why I keep going back.
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Stock seat

I'd love to ride in Alberta some day...........I've ridden an Iron Butt (1061 in 16hrs) on my Yamaha Venture and I did several 500 to 750 mile days on it. It was the only stock seat I didn't change. I'd never attempt any of those on this stock seat. It really takes the joy out of riding. I'm in the process of doing something about that, if I can make up my mind which way I want to go. The only thing worse than a lousy stock seat is a lousy aftermarket seat you gave $600 or $700 dollars for.................

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Rich has done seats for my RT - GT - and now my LT. I had the LT done 2 years ago right after buying it; my most recent trip to Calgary from Seattle, I did the ride home in one day and the seat made that possible.

He's expensive, but his work is quality. If you have it done, plan on being there most of the day - take a good book.

I highly recommend having the seat recovered in leather, as it's more durable and comfortable. I also had him put a backrest on and that is the cats meow.
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Rich has done seats for my RT - GT - and now my LT. I had the LT done 2 years ago right after buying it; my most recent trip to Calgary from Seattle, I did the ride home in one day and the seat made that possible.

He's expensive, but his work is quality. If you have it done, plan on being there most of the day - take a good book.

I highly recommend having the seat recovered in leather, as it's more durable and comfortable. I also had him put a backrest on and that is the cats meow.
Thanks for the suggestion on leather and seat back. My appointment is tomorrow...I'll take a good book.

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Could not be more positive about my experience with Rich's. It is an all day affair, but the time goes fast. Everyone is there to get custom seats done and Rich has a "gallery" of seats set up so you can watch and participate when it's time for fitting. Customers yesterday were a diverse, interesting group so conversation was easy. I had the drivers seat reformed (SO likes hers the way it is) then both seats and backrest covered in leather. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Could tell it was dramatically improved just on the ride home. The seat is now shaped to support rather than feeling like a pillow on a log. Rich is involved in every aspect of the fitting and final product. It's expensive, but I suspect the cost will long be forgotten when the trip meter hit's those 800+ mile days. The post here expressed concern regarding Rich's guarantee of fit, but there was a customer there yesterday who was returning because the fit wasn't right and Rich was fixing it no charge.

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