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Slips out of 5th. gear!

Anyone have or have had this problem? Driving along minding my own bizz and my trans slips out of 5th. gear. Have also experienced not wanting to up shift to 3rd. or down shift to 2nd. This primarily occurs only after riding 60-100 miles, short rides no prob... Wazz-up-wit-dat????

And yes I have replaced all my shift linkage.
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Anyone have or have had this problem? Driving along minding my own bizz and my trans slips out of 5th. gear. Have also experienced not wanting to up shift to 3rd. or down shift to 2nd. This primarily occurs only after riding 60-100 miles, short rides no prob... Wazz-up-wit-dat????

And yes I have replaced all my shift linkage.
Rene, I had that problem and also lost fifth gear altogether. I was February of this year. At my 24K the Texician Crew pulled out my linkage and lubed it up real well. Also pulled out a tiny piece of dirt out of one of the ball sockets. Put it all back in and no problems.
I was scared that it was going to be a tranny problem. When was your linkage put back in?

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When was your linkage put back in?
I just did it about a week ago. I went with a total replacement rods, cups, dust covers, balls and clips all BMW OEM parts.
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I just did it about a week ago. I went with a total replacement rods, cups, dust covers, balls and clips all BMW OEM parts.
Did you grease the snot outa the linkage/ball joints? I was having same problem but stopped after a good greasing.

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Did you grease the snot outa the linkage/ball joints? I was having same problem but stopped after a good greasing.
Not only did I grease everything up, I used lithium grease that I use on my boat trailer bearing, heck I even thew some snot in just for good measure!!
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Anyone have or have had this problem? Driving along minding my own bizz and my trans slips out of 5th. gear. Have also experienced not wanting to up shift to 3rd. or down shift to 2nd. This primarily occurs only after riding 60-100 miles, short rides no prob... Wazz-up-wit-dat????

And yes I have replaced all my shift linkage.
I have only experienced shifting problems once. My fix was to lube and then adjust the linkage twice. That allowed me to complete every shift since. I think that heat may be causing the shift linkage to change just enough to not make linkage travel incomplete and short the mechanical travel necessary to complete the shift.

If you were popping just out of a gear, I probably would not suggest that you do the linkage adjustment but seeing that you miss shifts...

I would get the bike hot enough so it fails and then adjust the linkage so it shifts properly every time. Fix the obvious.

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I had a similar problem after replacing some of the parts in my linkage. (I could not take the bike out on the road because the rear drive and driveshaft were off at the time, so I did not experience the bike jumping out of gear.) Shifting from neutral to first was erratic, shifting from first to second was difficult, shifting from second to third or above simply did not happen. Second to first was no problem, but I could not find neutral out of second no matter how gently I moved the shift lever. Turned out that I needed to adjust the length of my short rod by loosening the lock nut and turning the cup. In my case I needed to lengthen the rod by about 2 full turns. Unfortunately, I started out by shortening the rod, so I went through about a dozen trial-and-error adjustments, which was a real PITA. Tip: you do NOT need to put the little pin in the cup for every trial. Took me awhile to realize that. I don't understand the mechanics of the system, but the final full turn was like magic, suddenly I had a tranny that worked smoothly when running through the gears up or down. Good luck.

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In my case I needed to lengthen the rod by about 2 full turns. Unfortunately, I started out by shortening the rod, so I went through about a dozen trial-and-error adjustments, which was a real PITA.

Well to avoid the PITA part of the work anyone have a better way to go about fine tunning the shift linkage? I sure as heck know BMW isn't doing the adjustment via trial-and-error. There should be some specs. on length from point to point, be it a center to center measurement from the center of the ball cups or from the locking nut face at the cups to the other end of the rod. At least something to get you into the ball park as a starting point and or check.....
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First of all...check the distance between the two lock nuts on the linkage rod. Should be 36mm (as I recall) when tightened. If it isn't you'll have a hard time adjusting the rod correctly. If that gap is correct, I know of no other way to adjust except trial and error, but there's a fair amount of tolerance that's allowable.

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Rene, what's the latest? Did you get it to work?

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